Once Again, Google Caves To Political Pressure And Supports Questionable STOP CSAM Law
from the playing-political-games dept
It’s not surprising, but still disappointing, to see companies like Google and Meta, which used to take strong stands against bad laws, now showing a repeated willingness to cave on such principles in the interests of appeasing policymakers. It’s been happening a lot in the last few years and it’s happened again as Google has come out (on ExTwitter of all places) to express support for a mixed batch of “child safety” bills.

If you can’t see that screenshot, they are tweets from the Google Public Policy team, stating:
Protecting kids online is a top priority—and demands both strong legislation and responsible corporate practices to make sure we get it right.
We support several important bipartisan bills focused on online child safety, including the Invest in Child Safety Act, the Project Safe Childhood Act, the Report Act, the Shield Act, and the STOP CSAM Act.
We’ve talked about a couple of these bills. The Invest in Child Safety Act seems like a good one, from Senator Ron Wyden, as it focuses the issue where it belongs: on law enforcement. That is, rather than blaming internet companies for not magically stopping criminals, it equips law enforcement to better do its job.
The Shield Act is about stopping the sharing of nonconsensual sexual images and seems mostly fine, though I’ve seen a few concerns raised on the margins about how some of the language might go too far in criminalizing activities that shouldn’t be criminal. According to Senator Cory Booker last week, he’s been working with Senator Klobuchar on fixing those problematic parts.
And the Project Safe Childhood Act also seems perfectly fine. In many ways it complements the Invest in Child Safety Act in that it’s directed at law enforcement and focused on getting law enforcement to be better about dealing with child sexual abuse material, coordinating with other parts of law enforcement, and submitting seized imagery to NCMEC’s cybertip line.
But, then there’s the STOP CSAM bill. As we’ve discussed, there are some good ideas in that bill, but they’re mixed with some problematic ones. And, some of the problematic ones are a backdoor attack on encryption. Senator Dick Durbin, the author of the bill, went on a rant about Section 230 last week in trying to get the bill through on unanimous consent, which isn’t great either, and suggests some issues with the bill.
In that rant, he talks about how cell phones are killing kids because of “some crazy person on the internet.” But, um, if that’s true, it’s a law enforcement issue and “the crazy person on the internet” should face consequences. But Durbin insists that websites should somehow magically stop the “crazy person on the internet” from saying stuff. That’s a silly and mistargeted demand.
In that rant, he also talked about the importance of “turning the lawyers loose” on the big tech companies to sue them for what their users posted.
You’d think that that would be a reason for a company like Google to resist STOP CSAM, knowing it’ll face vexatious litigation. But, for some reason, it is now supporting the bill.
Lots of people have been saying that Durbin has a new, better version of STOP CSAM, and I’ve seen a couple drafts that are being passed around. But the current version of the bill still has many problems. Maybe Google is endorsing a fixed version of the bill, but if so, it sure would be nice if the rest of us could see it.
In the meantime, Durbin put out a gloating press release about Google’s support.
“For too long, Big Tech used every trick in the book to halt legislation holding social media companies accountable, while still trying to win the PR game. I’m glad to see that some tech companies are beginning to make good on their word to work with Congress on meaningful solutions to keep children safe online. I encourage other tech companies to follow Google’s move by recognizing that the time for Big Tech to police itself is over and work with Congress to better protect kids.”
Can’t say I understand Google’s reasons for caving here. I’m sure there’s some political calculus in doing so. And maybe they have the inside scoop on a fixed version of Durbin’s bill. But to do so the day after he talks about “turning the lawyers loose” on websites for failing to magically stop people from saying stuff… seems really strange.
It seems increasingly clear that both Meta and Google, with their buildings full of lawyers, have decided that the strategic political move is to embrace some of these laws, even as they know they’ll get hit with dumb lawsuits over them. They feel they can handle the lawsuits and, as a bonus, they know that smaller upstart competitors will probably have a harder time.
Still, there was a time when Google stood on principle and fought bad bills. That time seems to have passed.
Filed Under: dick durbin, encryption, liability, section 230, stop csam
Companies: google


Comments on “Once Again, Google Caves To Political Pressure And Supports Questionable STOP CSAM Law”
'The teeth! The claws! Why?!'
Google: I’m sure the leopards won’t try to eat our face, we supported them after all!
Honestly behavior like this just further reinforces why politicians feel so safe scapegoating and blaming the large tech companies for everything and anything no matter how divorced from reality the accusations are, all you need to do is put just the tiniest amount of pressure on them and they fold like wet cardboard more often than not
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Do you think the bill more likely to pass now? Also Maybe Google is hoping that by backing this bad bill they can get the good bills like Invest in Child Safety Act to vote and then withdraw support for the bad bills at a later date.
If it were actually a good bill, would it have to be written in a smoky backroom?
Seems if Congress fails to pass child safety laws (aka pass MY bill)...
He’s demanding that Congress throw the baby out with the bathwater and get rid of Section 230.
https://communicationsdaily.com/article/2024/03/12/durbin-wants-section-230-repeal-should-congress-punt-on-kids-safety-2403110033
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If anyone is curious, I was able to read that without registering by going into Firefox’s Reader View.
Don’t make me tap the sign.
Ding ding ding! It’s our very special friends formerly known as Morality in Media!
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Where I come from, we spell that ‘immorality’.
The only really good thing I can say about Google is they did remove the “Do no Evil”, before they started being another corporation who’s sole goal is fucking over as many people as they can get their hands on, for profit!
How likely is the bill to pass now?
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Very likely now. If google is backing it they know that congress is dead set on making this crap law this year.
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doom saying
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Being realistic mate. This is following a similar progression as FOSTA, congress kept pushing it and at the final push suddenly google and the rest came out in support.
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cat daddy contradicted you so yea totally realistic
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Please don’t take my word as gospel. Speculation is just that: speculation. It’s just what I think is happening at the present moment and how that will affect the bill moving forward. Things could still change. Nothing is set in stone.
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well yea just i don’t wanna resort to doomerism and i don’t trust the “am being realistic” words as i seen doomers use those words to not sound like there doom saying
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Is it going to pass now?
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Mate, we just answered you. Quit asking this question or we’ll label you as spam.
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SOPA and PIPA were also set in stone, and yet a massive coalition effort was able to defeat that. We have a saying around here: “If you give it up, then you will lose; but if you fight it, you’ll might lose. That’s a realistic approach for all things considered. What isn’t is proclaiming that we’re doomed and the only thing we can do is to lay down and remain in a fetal position.
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exactly i just don’t get these doomers that are hiddenly saying they are giving up
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Google never supported FOSTA. Facebook did. But, yes. But, who knows how this will go.
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tbh the ac was hiddenly saying that he gave up and everyone else should by spreading doomerism and labeling it as “realistic”
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What’s FOSTA? There’s no such law on the books. Now please clean up the straw from your busted strawman.
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If you keep spamming the same question, it will be.
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i was suspecting he was spamming but i needed to make sure
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Alright. Out of the Four horsemen of the Digital-Apocalypse (KOSA, EARN IT, the TikTok Ban, this one), the Stop CSAM act has the least going for it. Unlike KOSA, stop CSAM only has a measly five cosponsors at the moment; unlike EARN IT, it does not have a House Companion; and unlike the TikTok Ban, Stop CSAM has been languishing for months and I’d argue has had the least amount of progress, despite coming out of the judiciary. All that Stop CSAM is a near half-dozen of sponsors and the blessing of Google and Meta, but that’s about it. The Stop CSAM is probably the least likely to become law. At least in my speculation.
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Between 0 and 100%.
During so, law enforcement response is always:
Let’s big companies do the work, we don’t have money for that.
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…which is why the bill diverts money to law enforcement.
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my issue is the police would rather arrest innocent people then criminals
i mean tbh the fbi has been kinda lazy as pedos are rarely arrested and people could get falsely arrested and thrown in jail for no reason or cuase some identity thief stole there identity to make them look bad
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Do you serve House Dressing with that word salad?
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are you the one that spammed twice or are you the one that is talking doomerism or are you a different ac
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Yoou’re right. Just like The Anonymous Coward is one person, so everyone posting as Anonymous Coward is one person. Dipshit.
Remember this is the same Company that believes its search product isn’t a fucking dumpster fire that serves ad revenue & sometimes remembers users are looking for stuff… on page 3
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Page 3 used to be the hottest part of The Sun, then they took that away so the joke doesn’t really work anymore.
"On ExTwitter of all places"
I wonder which particular PR genius from Google’s public policy team came up with the idea of announcing their support of these Protect The Children bills by standing up on a chair in Elon’s Nazi & Pedo bar?
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What Elon and Google have in common here is that they’re both virtue signalers.
Elon makes it fairly easy for legitimate content to be taken down in the name of saving the children, and undoubtedly, this piece of legislation would have similar effects.
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While exposing children to Nazi ideology on ExTwitter. So, like Alphabet, Elmo’s trying to have it both ways.
Will not live in a police world...
I want it known that if nothing is done about any of these Mass Surveillance Attacks, If this world becomes a police world, I’m going to take my own life before any of the mass surveillance bills should become law and they go into effect…
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Take a few bastards with you if you must do that.
To me, advocacy like this weakens any claim Google could possibly have to any argument that they shouldn’t be subject to “keep up” type laws. Perhaps, there are good legal ones, but the vaguer ideal is fading away.
Google Inc can’t have it both ways. They can’t play political little games and not expect to be held accountable for their inevitable over-censorship.
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Actually, it’s Alphabet Inc. nowadays.
In regard to the previous message
I’m surprised nobody said anything… They must really not care… Fine… But once I’m gone from this world, I won’t be seen in the realm of the Devil with the rest of this world that’s under the devil’s grip…
I won’t be in heaven because I had wanted to do alot of things in this world to earn my ticket up there but if this world is a police and satanic ridden world. I cannot do anything if the world is like that, I already feel like I’m under threat of satanic sacrifice.
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Excuse me, wat?
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Get professional help. Seriously. You sound like you’re one bad day away from self-deletion.
It’s hard to say to what extent Google is just locking in its monopoly by supporting onerous regulations on smaller competitors, and to what extent they’re genuinely afraid of the fascist mob and their obsessive pedophilia conspiracy theories.
Some one is in need of professional help?
Sheesh, get a grip.
Nothing else required.
In regards to this situation.
At first, it seems like they made a stupid decision, but dig a little deeper then you might realize that they’re trying to support the bad law to keep competitors drowning in legal muddle enough to make them bankrupt.