Italy Wants To Save Its Children, Too
from the ma-pensa-ai-bambini dept
In Italy, an age-verification coalition against porn is getting traction. On September 4th, the Minister of Family Eugenia Roccella, representing the right-wing majority, initiated consultations for introducing a law to prevent minors from accessing pornographic content. On November 13th, the Democratic Party (currently the main opposition party) presented the Digital Innovation Act, whose Article 17 aims to prevent minors from accessing content forbidden to under-18 users.
Currently, the details are vague. The Democratic Party law requests the Telecommunication Authority (AGCOM) to draft technical guidance to implement measures to verify the users’ age when they access websites, apps and platforms showing content forbidden to under-18 users. The practice of setting impracticable targets and delegating the “technical implementation” to independent authorities seems unfortunately similar to many provisions of the UK Online Safety Bill.
The right-wing coalition has no specific proposal yet, but their idea seems to be inspired by the French attempt to enforce age verification through the use of third-party apps. This mechanism involves third-party services certifying the user’s age without recording information about the websites visited. The visited website then receives age information from the third-party service without knowing the user’s identity.
Age verification measures have already been discussed (as in the United States and Australia) or adopted (as in the United Kingdom and France) in various parts of the world. By looking at the experiences of other countries, such a measure seems ineffective and counterproductive, possibly making internet use less free and secure. Three reasons can be identified.
- Effectiveness of Verification Systems
Currently, there exist two methods for age verification on the internet: uploading an identification document or the facial analysis of the user’s face. It is important to remember that to limit minors’ access to a website, the age of all users accessing it must be verified. Therefore, every Italian citizen would need to upload their documents or provide biometric data to access services covered by the law.
According to the French Data Protection Authority, none of the identity verification systems currently on the market simultaneously offers reliable age verification, the ability to cover the entire population and respect for privacy (the United States Congressional Research Service reached similar conclusions).
On the one hand, solutions that require uploading a document hinder access to the internet for people without documents (for example, asylum seekers or people waiting for residence permits), who often use the web to maintain a social network in difficult situations. On the other hand, facial analysis services have significant margins of error, particularly in the case of minorities.
Moreover, both systems increase the production – and temporary possession – of personal data in the hands of private organizations. Although the European Union strictly regulates the handling of personal data, the difficulty in implementing its laws and the possibility of data leaks, combined with the large number of people and organizations involved, increases significantly the possibility of privacy violations.
- Impossible enforcement
In 2020, France adopted a law requiring all websites that publish pornographic content to prevent access to minors under 18, under penalty of suspension of service. The enforcement authority prosecuted five publishers of pornographic websites who did not implement the verification system; one of the publishers, accusing the law of being too vague, brought the issue to the Council of State, and two years later a final decision is still pending. In the United States, three states (California, Texas, and Arkansas) have seen their age verification laws suspended due to violating the First Amendment, since they limit access to some information – and therefore the freedom of speech.
When balancing different rights, these laws prioritize the protection of minors over freedom of speech, with consequent difficulties in defending them in court. Furthermore, there is a problem of scarce resources: even if the suspension of a handful of websites succeeded in France, there will remain hundreds of pornographic portals available, whose operators are often difficult to prosecute and whose contents can easily change home.
Here we come to the main problem in the efficacy of these laws: their circumvention. A study on the consequences of the 2020 French law points out that such law is based on two assumptions:
- once a certain website is blocked for minors, the minors previously using that website will not look for other sources for pornography;
- minors are not aware of or do not want to use VPN services, which easily allow them to circumvent the blocks imposed by national legislation.
It should be clear that such assumptions are completely unrealistic, as they are based on a static and inaccurate representation of the behaviour of young people online and of the pornographic content market.
- Collateral damage
Depending on how they are worded, age verification mandates can harm parts of the internet that extend far beyond pornographic websites. For example, the “California Age-Appropriate Design Code Act” requires every company with a website that is “likely to be accessed by children” to “estimate their age” and assess whether the website has “features” that may expose a child to “harmful, or potentially harmful, content,” and plan measures that “mitigate” those risks. The French penal code, reformed in 2020, requires identity verification for any website containing “pornographic” or “violent nature” content that “could be viewed by a minor”.
These formulations are vague and imprecise, and in the majority of cases determine a de facto inapplicability of these laws. However, their mere existence can push some website managers to limit the use of certain features or to self-censor content that may not be suitable for minors. This process would be guided by very subjective assessments: at what point do artistic nude photographs become pornographic? Can the coverage of the Ukraine war be considered “violent content”?
For these reasons, Wikipedia protested against the UK Online Safety Bill, which requires every website that allows to interact with other users’ content to block access to minors for any content that the government defines as “harmful”. If enforced, the law would force Wikipedia (along with many other online services) to either limit access to its website to minors or to level all its contents to a level that is tolerable by children (or what the government thinks is tolerable for children).
By using loose or imprecise definitions, a law created to protect children can allow public authorities to arbitrarily sanction a large amount of non-pornographic content on the internet. Even if unenforced, its mere existence might convince cautious or politically exposed actors to limit their content available online.
As in the case of moderation of social networks, minors’ access to online pornography cannot be solved with a law that acts as a “silver bullet”. In the best cases, identity verification laws are ineffective. In the worst scenarios, they lead to a reduction in content available on the internet, for everyone.
Undoubtedly, the effects of porn on the psyche of minors are to be taken seriously. However, the protection of children on the internet has often been used to propose harmful, as well as ineffective, laws: the attempt in the European Union to eliminate encrypted chat services to combat child pornography is only the latest example. Instead of making age verification mandatory, why not focus on educating parents to supervise their children’s online browsing, following Australia’s example?
Matteo Nebbiai is a PhD student at King’s College London, and this is a lightly edited version of a Substack post, reposted here with permission.
Filed Under: age verification, italy, moral panic, privacy


Comments on “Italy Wants To Save Its Children, Too”
I have to wonder: How many of these grassroots groups stumping for age verification requirements are sponsored by companies providing age verification solutions.
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Wasn’t there that troll the other month that kept repeatedly intentionally lying that age verification would work necause they worked for the verification company pushing that corruption?
Age verification can increase the risks too children, unless it can ensure that the person that verified their age does not hand control of the device over to someone else. This gives a way a groomer could entice under age people, by giving the access to site they are not allowed to use.
If both the majority party and the main opposition party are pushing for the same kind of legislation, I see much performative rule making in your future.
Our hearts go out to you, but I fear that Italy will be reprising Britain in this respect.
The correllation is consistent
So the outcome’s been consistent with all efforts of mass censorship: 1980s crackdown of porn production in California, the Communications Decency Act in 1996, the net-nanny mandates and the Great Firewall of China, and the moderation crisis of the 2010s
Whenever we decide that kids seeing grown-ups humping is a bad thing and decide the state (or an industry) should do something about it, a parallel movement arises to protect kids also from other issues, say:
~ Gay relationships happen
~ Some people realize their gender identity doesn’t match their bits
~ Some women don’t want to be uneducated spawning points, to the point of aborting unwanted pregnancies
~ Your country doesn’t control Taiwan
~ Your state sometimes authorizes massacres, often at the behest of industrialists who want land and resources
~ Your nation’s armed forces don’t fight for freedom, liberty or the humane treatment of refugees abroad.
~ People self medicate. Often. In your house.
~ The youth ministers of your church are abusing the kids under their watch, often it’s sexual abuse.
~ Some people are really really pissed off about their government and law enforcement, and have some legitimate gripes, and their elected representatives don’t care.
~ As a juror, you are the last barrier of defense against stupid law, or police abusing probable cause, and it’s your duty to the public to not let bullshit stand.
The same DRM that is used to keep kids from seeing ugly-bumping is also used to keep kids (or whoever) from seeing all this other stuff.
And this is when the communities affected realize that in fact, they want gay content and content about Taiwan and about the availability of abortion access to be visible to the general public (including kids who are interested in such topics), and as a result we develop ways to crack or circumvent the DRM.
And then kids who want to see the sexy times use the same cracks to see the sexy times.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
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“People self medicate. Often. In your house.”
It’s my parents’ house, and what’s wrong with taking two acetaminophen pills four times a day when I have a cold?
Is pornography even inherently harmful for teenagers?
Politicians/anti-porn activists always just state that we must protect “the children” (usually meaning adolescence) from porn. But are there actually some (non-prejudice) studies about whether pornography inherently harms teenagers that watch porn of their own volition?
The ones I found were all problematic in how they defined harm. For example viewing non-romantic sexual relationships or consensual BDSM as harmful/unhealthy sexuality. Or talking about porn addiction which is not generally recognized (ICD-11 intentionally only recognizes compulsive sexual behavior not addiction).
And when it comes to actual children. They don’t want to watch pornography. And there certainly are less restrictive ways to prevent them from accidentally stumbling over porn.
I’m sure there can be harms. But they might best be tackled with proper sex education and not age-restrictions. I think we would need unbiased research about this before taking such restrictive steps.
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Yes, but to parents, if you consider embarrassment about talking about sex a harm.
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Not talking to kids about sex is demonstrably harmful, unlike pornography. (For example, it increases teen pregnancy rates, and teen pregnancies have documented negative effects on the parents and their offspring.)
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There’s an obvious limit to how harmful it can be, given that most teenagers throughout history were exposed to it. Also, teenagers have sex—perhaps less frequently than when they were getting married at 13—and of course many of them are legally considered adults and are allowed to view and create pornography.
One could, however, argue that the people pushing these laws must have some kind of neurological impairment. Maybe pornography caused it! And maybe the reason we can’t get a good study proving harm is because people are harmed by pornography before they become researchers in such fields.
Or, you know, it’s not harmful and the whole thing’s bullshit.
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“…many [teenagers] are legally considered adults…”
Not that many, actually. Only those who are eighteen and nineteen years old.
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There are literally millions of such people in the USA, and entire classes of pornography based around them.
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Porn isn’t harmful to children and teens at all. What is harmful is the priests telling them that it is, when everyone knows that all priests want to actually do is fiddle with their genitalia. Best to take the children and sit them in front of drag queens.
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I know you’re that stupid-ass “I’m a far left activist, look how far-left and extreme and super-duper liberal I am, oh please tell me I’m just so far left that AOC is jealous” sockpuppet of one of our usual trolls. That said: You’re not wrong—children have less to fear from an all-ages drag show than they do from a church with leaders who are given unearned trust by their congregations and delivered from secular accountability for child abuse via extensive in-house cover-ups and legal protections for the clergy-penitent privilege.
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You are free to make assumptions on who I am. It’s not going to prevent true love from winning.
If anything, it’s a ringing endorsement from you that proves anyone who looks remotely right must be dealt with. I believe another anonymous commentator from Singapore regularly makes justified death wishes in the direction of Rupert Murdoch.
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I believe another anonymous commentator from Singapore regularly makes justified death wishes in the direction of Rupert Murdoch.
You’re fucking right I do. There’s no negotiating with terrorists. Matthew Bennett, Benjamin the revenge pornographer and Hyman Rosen are the relics of a bygone era. They’re the reason why I can’t kiss another man in Singapore, and they need to fucking throw themselves off a cliff. Because they are TERRORISTS.
TERRORISTS. TERRORISTS. TERRORISTS.
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Hyman.
You’re a terrible rendition of the imaginary me.
And I’m the asshole in question.
I’d ask you to stop, but there’s no way to get you to stop legally.
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I doubt Hyman’s the one actually doing it, but this isn’t the first time I’ve seen the terrorists chant.
And it’s far from the first time someone’s posted stupid shit on Techdirt only to claim it wasn’t them afterwards.
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Why are you replying to yourself? Self-flagellation is SO medieval. But that’s what enables copyright maximalists.
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Hyman.
You’re a terrible rendition of the imaginary me.
I’ve been calling for Rupert Murdoch to be hauled in front of the UN for crimes against humanity, and THEN executed.
I’m not surprised you can’t do anything but a pale imitation of me, because you’re STRAIGHT, you’re WHITE, and you’re TRASH.
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And while I’m free to do that, 1A does NOT protect me from making those threats.
And while I’m also willing to accept that the Murdochs go to jail for their crimes against humanity, that’s only IF any court in the world is willing to prosecute hthat clan for their crimes against humanity to begin with.
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And you do it anyway! Holy FSM, anger at heteronormativity always gets me hot and bothered.
What’s your f-list?
Seeking information
Seeking information
“…the effects of porn on the psyche of minors are to be taken seriously.”
Could someone please post the address of a site that lists the “effects of porn on the psyche of minors”.
I’ve heard the claim a million times now, but have yet to see a single listing of the ‘affects’ caused by porn viewing.
A simple citation to a non-republican website that has actual medical information pertaining to these ‘effects’ would be most enlightening. Thank you.
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Think of the children is all too often a means of making it harder for other adults to do what they are attacking, and that is the intent.
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Well, it’s been 2 weeks and no citations at all, so, I guess no actual data pertaining to the harms of porn on children exists then. That too is enlightening.
Remember, a 17-year-old seeing a person being shot to death/blown up/dismembered/etc. is okay, but a pair of tits will really fuck them up.
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Only if attached to someone female. TV channels show topless men frequently, even if they have a bigger bust size than the woman who are being covered up. (OK, the men on TV are unusually fit; go to an American beach on the other hand…)
Just wondering
Aside from privacy,
What’s really wrong with verification. Especially if it uses a government ID. Which is something nearly everyone has in most countries. The US is a rarity but most of Europe and Asia have near complete identification issuance. Papers please is a very real part of the world.
How is porn separate from R rated films and M rated games?
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Because nowhere in Europe is a government ID used to identify someone unless it is necessary to use the service, for example financial services or government sites. Plus your question conflates two different concepts, age verification and identification.
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There is.
The poor worker at the store isn’t going to demand a copy of your ID or do something to store a copy of your ID for “future reference”.
And, unless you’ve been living under a rock, porn sites did it during the 90s and, well, children and teens have no reason to lie on the internet or steal their parents’credit cards.
Ot’s one thing to think a centralized identification card or digital identity is useful. It’s another to conflate this with a store worker or bouncer checking your ID to see if you are of age.
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Well it removes anonymity when using the Internet, and that amongst other things can stop political activism. further, unless intrusive, like a live video feeds, it only checks that the proof of age offered belongs to a person old enough to use a site. Verifying the credentials and verifying that they are offered by the person to which those credentials belong are separate problems.
Also, unless it is tied to intrusive monitoring of ho is using a device, it only proves that the person carrying out the age verification offered proof of their age. But, unlike an age check at a real door, it does not actually control who enters the door after the age check opens it.
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That much I understand.
However, it’s the first sentence that I take issue with.
I don’t agree with breaking the law without consequence. Even bad laws. If you want to be an activist and break the law, you suffer the law enforcement.
See, that’s the issue here. You are against I’d because it removes the protections offered to law breakers.