Sometimes Open Systems Beat Those Who Try To Lock Them Up: Spotify’s Podcast Colonization Flops

from the protocols-over-proprietary-platforms dept

We wrote a few times about the problems of Spotify’s attempt to colonize the podcast market. While it was, perhaps, an understandable move driven by the economics of our totally broken copyright systems which made it impossible to be truly profitable with just music, Spotify’s decision to go after the podcast market, shelling out massive dollars for podcast-focused companies like Gimlet Media and the Ringer, was all about taking a system based on open protocols — mainly mp3s and RSS — and trying to lock it up behind a proprietary moat.

We worried about this back when Spotify purchased Gimlet, fearing that it was a warning sign of an attempt to wall off the open podcast market. It’s why we kept noting that every time Spotify paid some famous podcaster to only release their audio through Spotify that we should stop calling them podcasts, since they were now proprietary audio. And, we highlighted that the open internet stood to lose a lot if we allowed this kind of colonization of the open protocol podcasts into locked silos of proprietary audio.

Of course, there’s a pretty long history of companies trying to do this, and sometimes succeeding, but (thankfully) it sounds like Spotify’s big bet has been an even bigger bust.

“In hindsight, I probably got a little carried away and overinvested relative to the uncertainty we saw shaping up in the market,” Ek said on an earnings call in January. “So we are shifting to focus on tightening our spend and becoming more efficient.”

Spotify was a one-company podcast bubble. Its drastic cuts have triggered a podcast winter, as the small studios it helped support consolidate and lavish narrative productions wane. But rivals from tech giants Amazon and Apple to the radio company iHeart have found better returns on more cautious bets. Spotify’s pivot has more in common with the recent cuts to Hollywood’s spending on streaming television.

Notably, the bets by those other companies have (mostly) been on retaining more open podcasts, though some of them (Amazon for one) offer early access to podcasts for Prime subscribers.

Spotify has still built up a big audience that now listens to podcasts (including actual podcasts alongside Spotify’s proprietary audio programing), but it’s increasingly looking like its plan to move open podcasts into a silo that you can only get through Spotify and in a proprietary format are fizzling.

There’s a reason that I keep pushing for protocol-based solutions over proprietary platforms. Those open systems prevent lock-in, they prevent silos, and (perhaps most notably) they keep the ecosystem more open and free for everyone, so that a single company can’t come in and twist the system solely to their own advantages.

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Samuel Abram (profile) says:

I think The Fediverse’s/Mastodon’s growth at the expense of Twitter after Elon Musk’s acquisition thereof is another example of openness beating proprietary platforms. OpenOffice beating Microsoft Office is yet another one of those. Unfortunately, Comedy Specials being DRM-free in the wake of the success of Louis CK doing it and then Netflix closing that shit up again was a loss for openness.

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The fun thing here is that scale isn’t the thing that matters. Despite the whining of certain types, normal people can use multiple social networks. Some people will just use Twitter less and less, while other networks get the benefits.

There’s no direct exodus here, where everyone suddenly goes to Mastodon because Musk did something stupid again. The actual migration will be people gradually following the ones they care about as they filter off, and Twitter doesn’t even see the drop in usage until next quarter. Not everyone will go to Mastodon either, but it’s likely that a lot of the alternatives use their FOSS contibutions.

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“Unfortunately, Comedy Specials being DRM-free in the wake of the success of Louis CK doing it and then Netflix closing that shit up again was a loss for openness.”

I’ll agree for the most part but did they actually close that? My understanding is that since live gigs can be expensive comedians tend to sign up for places that guarantee them a return. CK tried a different way of getting a return, but the fact that many specials moved from, say, HBO to Netflix doesn’t mean they locked up what would have otherwise been free.

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Samuel Abram (profile) says:

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I do know I’m not interesting. But at the very least, I know where I’m not welcome, and here, I’m not flagged, and in the rare instances when I was, I think “hmmm, I think I’ll try to modify my behavior so people won’t think I’m a troll” rather than what you’re doing, and eventually, people here have even rated my comments funny and insightful.

Please tell me you know you’re not welcome here.

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PaulT (profile) says:

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For Musk. What your smooth brain doesn’t seem to understand is that stories are only written when Musk does something stupid that jeopardises millions of users and thousands of jobs. If there’s a lot of such stories, the problem is not with the people who tell you about them. When Musk stops being a dangerous destructive moron, the stories stop. It’s up to him. The real question is how little do you have in your life to need to constantly defend a man who wouldn’t notice you in return?

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