Girl Scouts Settle Trademark Suit With Scouts BSA
from the scout's-honor dept
For roughly the past four years, we have been following the trademark lawsuit brought by the Girl Scouts of America (GSA) against Scouts BSA, formerly the Boy Scouts of America. While these two organizations coexisted peacefully for many years thanks to BSA’s “girls have cooties” viewpoint, that changed when BSA suddenly started allowing girls to join and underwent the rebrand to Scouts BSA. That rebrand often times included putting “girl” and “scouts” next to each other in recruiting branding, the use of Girl Scout slogans, pictures of in-uniform Girl Scouts in BSA recruiting material, and on and on. GSA notably also provided real-world examples of the above causing confusion in the public.
Despite that, the judge in the case commented that he was planning to rule in favor of Scouts BSA, mostly because GSA actually sued over the words “scout” and “scouting” instead of suing for the individual cases of infringement mentioned above.
Senior U.S. District Judge Alvin Hellerstein in what he called “temporary findings,” said he planned to rule for the Boy Scouts on its summary judgment motion, finding the group can use the general word “Scouting” to describe its co-ed programs without causing confusion with the Girl Scouts.
“‘Boy Scouts’ is a brand, ‘Girl Scouts’ is a brand, but ‘Scouting’ alone is an activity,” Hellerstein said.
And, yeah, that’s right. But that left the question, as the dispute continued on appeal, what to do about the confusion in the public? Well, GSA and Scouts BSA have now settled the case in a manner that will attempt to limit that confusion.
The bankrupt Boy Scouts said the proposed settlement includes the Girl Scouts dropping its appeal, withdrawing its opposition to the Boy Scouts proposed reorganization, and dropping its roughly $11 million claim in the bankruptcy. The Boy Scouts will withdraw a motion in the district court case that roughly $16 million of its legal fees and expenses be covered.
Settlement terms also include the Boy Scouts not using “girls” before “scouts,” and not doing cookie fundraisers. The Girl Scouts can’t do any fundraising involving popcorn.
And so that’s how this all ends: bans on cookies and popcorn respectively for each side and Scouts BSA can’t use “girl” and “scouts” in a manner that would cause confusion due to proximity.
Will this keep the confusion at bay? Maybe. Probably! At least to some extent. But the real question is why we had to navigate through a four year lawsuit in order to get to a place that Scouts BSA probably should have gotten to all by itself without litigious intervention.
Filed Under: descriptive, generic, likelihood of confusion, normative, scout, scouting, scouts, trademark
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Comments on “Girl Scouts Settle Trademark Suit With Scouts BSA”
GSA’s newest advertising line…
At least we didn’t go bankrupt to avoid paying out to abused children.
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Now you’re getting confused; it was Scouts BSA leaders that abused children.
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Aughtie, that was what TAC said, that GSA can use that as a slogan because it’s what BSA did. Hence the “at least we didn’t”
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AC, I knew that. It was a joke based on the apparent confusion that GSA could have sued for.
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Stop disappearing my nym from the name field, site bugs!
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Ahhh, meta humour!
This stuff is always baffling to those of us who grew up here in the UK where the two different gendered organisations Baden-Powell formed were always closely intertwined, with members of both frequently attending major events of the other, and Boy Scout leaders often being adult former Girl Guides, with many of them having roles in both organisations, etc. Which honestly is just practical considering how often two siblings in a family will be members of the two.
Re: Scouting in the US
They were a lot more cooperative back in the old days here as well, but they picked opposite sides in the culture wars and things have been going downhill ever since.
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It’s like watching a speedrun of how religions evolve over time.
But yeah, my childhood was one of constantly going camping every other weekend with both groups because my aunt ran the local Scouts and my mother ran the local Guides 😀
Scouting and politics...
So if the Boy Scouts can recruit girls and the Girl Scouts can (potentially) recruit boys, maybe they should be renamed to reflect their primary differentiation: Maga Scouts and Lib Scouts.
Lots of cookies
A motion to recover 16 MILLION in legal fees? Over a trademark claim?
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Costs of around $4 million a year, I suppose.
So the takeaway here is that BSA weren’t prepared, and did not in fact do their best?
Who would you leave your young children with...?
a Boy Scout leader
a Catholic Priest
a Law enforcement Officer
— or –
a Girl Scout Leader?
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None of the above, thank you.
“bans on cookies and popcorn respectively for each side and Scouts BSA can’t use “girl” and “scouts” in a manner that would cause confusion due to proximity”
Four years of lawsuit brought down to this. But at least the lawyers got paid for four years of their hard work.
Gas vs BSA settlements
Boy Scouts of America did NOT rebrand their name. They only changed the name of one of their program from Boy Scout troops to Scouts BSA troops. Their are 5 programs within the BSA: Cub Scouts, Scouts BSA, Venturing, Sea Scouts and Exploring. Your article lacks credibility due to your lack of knowledge of the BSA.
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The entire article lacks credibility because of one error? How often did your teachers entirely trash your essays because of single spelling mistake?
Next up...
BSA start selling cookies.
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No, BSA stopped selling cookies pursuant to the agreement in the settlement. (-_Q)