Turkish President Comes To The US, Pretends That It Can Silence And Attack The Press Like It Does At Home

from the freedom-of-the-press? dept

We’ve written a whole bunch about the incredibly thin-skinned and litigious President of Turkey, Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Erdogan took his show on the road to the US this week, and apparently that included pretending that he can treat press in the US as bad as he does at home. Erdogan spoke at the Brookings Institution yesterday, and there were protestors outside. That’s not that surprising, but rather than doing what basically anyone else does in that situation and ignore the protestors, Erdogan’s security clashed with the protestors and then took it up a notch going after reporters:

A planned speech by the controversial Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan descended into violence and chaos Thursday, with one journalist physically removed from the event site by Turkish security personnel, another kicked by a guard, and a third ? a woman ? thrown to the sidewalk in front of a Washington think tank where he was to speak.

And then there was this:

Later, a shoving match between what appeared to be a Brookings Institute worker and Turkish security broke out. ?I am in charge of this building,? the apparent Brookings employee shouted as the two tangled. A Foreign Policy reporter and others holding cameras outside the event were also scolded by Turkish security. One cameraman was chased across the street by Turkish guards.

Apparently local Washington DC police had to keep explaining to Erdogan’s security that they’re not in charge and they’re not allowed to do what they were doing:

Local Washington D.C. police officers were forced time and again to get between Erdogan?s security forces and journalists and protesters. At one point, an officer placed himself between one of Erdogan?s security guards and a cameraman he was moving to confront, while another angrily confronted several Turkish security guards in the middle of the street, telling them, ?you?re part of the problem, you guys need to control yourselves and let these people protest.?

Meanwhile, inside, Erdogan played ignorant claiming that he has no problem at all with “criticism” but rather is just deeply offended by “insults.”

How one distinguishes between “criticism” and “insults” is — of course — left unclear.

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AJ says:

“A planned speech by the controversial Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan descended into violence and chaos Thursday, with one journalist physically removed from the event site by Turkish security personnel, another kicked by a guard, and a third — a woman — thrown to the sidewalk in front of a Washington think tank where he was to speak.”

Any one of us would have done that, we would have been in jail. Probably after a very rough arrest. As soon as this idiot assaulted one of our countrymen, he should have had his credentials revoked, and tossed ass first out of the country like the clown he is.

Groaker (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

Laws are not just for little people. There are really 6 sets of laws all told. The second is for the middle class — those who go into hock to hire an attorney. The wealthy, who can buy “justice.” The police, who can do anything except embarrass their superiors. The powerful, who rarely go so far to enter a court room. And of course the government, which almost always gets away with doing as it pleases.

That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: 'It's not a matter of who's right or who's wrong, it's only about who has the money to fight.'

Ah, but that’s where our ever so lovely legal system comes into play, because while you may have the right to say it, it doesn’t stop him from suing you into the ground if he feels like exporting his trademark bullying tactics against those in the US who get under his micron-thin skin with their nasty, mean words.

Doesn’t matter in the slightest if you know you would ultimately win in court if you cannot afford to defend yourself in court long enough for it to reach that point.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

And he would probably only be offended by the latter. Erdogan has a vision of uniting the middle eastern power-structure and the european after he has been humiliated repeatedly by Europe in terms of potential membership of EU. He has gone from that secular and liberal position and has been inspired by autocrats:
– Use history as a prism for today: Unite people in nationalism and use history selectively to defend laws.
– It is good to have common enemies to better be able to push for concentration of powers
– Making an election a question of for or against “the leader” is so much easier to win since fear of change is a powerful force
– The easiest way to influence people is to control the information they are getting

Erdogan has basically pushed in the same direction as Muscowy. Only difference is the timeline.

Anonymous Coward says:

useful idiot

Although this has been an explosive story in the Iranian, Russian, Armenian, and Kurdish news agencies, it seems the US mainstream media has all but ignored this headline-grabber. (Just imagine if Trump’s security detail -or Putin’s- had done this)

But this is to be expected. The American corporate press tends to keep silent about the human rights abuses of 3rd-world dictators who are loyal allies of Washington, but apparently saving it all up for the time when any particular “useful idiot” decides to no longer be a US puppet.

psiuuuuu (profile) says:

what. the. hell.


I wrote up a comment assuming this was a well done April Fool’s swipe at Trump, but then figured I should actually look at links and do a search on my own.

Original snarky post follows:

(Subject: does anyone hear that sound overhead?”)

It’s the sound of Missile Command, 4/1 Battalion, General M. Asnick commanding, launching a salvo of their new Drumpf Simile rockets on unsuspecting victims.

/golf clap

Anshar (profile) says:

A Different Angle

As face-palm-inducing as the Turkish President’s behaviour might be, this story actually made me smile. It’s nice to read a story where the police are doing a good job and playing the good-guys for a change. Gives me hope that all the bad behaviour we keep reading about is about is due to a few bad apples getting all the attention.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: A Different Angle

…shouldn’t the security men have been arrested? They don’t have the same diplomatic immunity as heads of state, do they?…

Depends. Some consulate employees do enjoy diplomatic immunity, not just the ambassador. Entourages for visiting diplomats usually get immunity as well. Look at what happened with the Secret Service agents’ transgressions in other countries: ordinary citizens would be arrested but after the host country complained the agents were relieved of duty and ordered back to the states. And IIRC years ago a consular (lower position than ambassador) performed an “honor killing” in the US, the US protested and that country recalled the consular.

G Thompson (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re: A Different Angle

Diplomatic immunity does not mean they cannot be arrested, processed and then released under the Diplomatic Immunity protocols, though they then must immediately leave the jurisdiction. Diplomatic immunity allows any charges not to apply for court matters!

Also for certain offenses Diplomatic immunity does NOT apply, and the protection of citizens and property is paramount.

Anonymous Coward says:

Erdogan at this point is just a parody of a president.

A total 100% loser that resembles gollum but without the dignity or respect and with worse personal hygiene issues.

(not april fools joke – he rarely showers or bathes, refuses to clean his teeth and despite having stolen BILLIONS from the Turkish people wears the same underwear for weeks at a time).

If I didn’t know better I’d say he was suffering from dementia and other people were using this to make him a scapegoat whilst they basically rape Turkey of its laws and resources.

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