Three Key EU Parliament Committees Vote 'Just Say No' To ACTA

from the some-good-news dept

While some have believed that ACTA is already dead in Europe, there are still actual votes to be held, and there have been significant concerns that political trickery might lead to ACTA actually being approved. The first three key votes (from three specific committees) happened today, and while it was close, all three came out with recommendations to reject ACTA. As Rick Falkvinge points out, one telling point is if you look at the votes on the Committee on Legal Affairs (Juri) and the Committee on Industry, Research and Energy (ITRE). The winning proposal for ITRE was drafted by Pirate Party MEP (and occasional Techdirt contributor) Amelia Andersdotter. The losing proposal for Juri was written by Marielle Gallo — author of the infamous Gallo Report a few years ago, pushing the EU Parliament to support massively draconian IP enforcement rules. In other words, “the pirate” vs. “the copyright maximalist” in an EU Parlimantary committee votes… and the pirate won. Not too long ago, such a result would be unthinkable. However, it shows how quickly things can shift when you have reality on your side…

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Cerberus (profile) says:

Rejoice! ACTA has already been permanently vetoed for the entire EU by the Netherlands.

I read on ZDnet.co.uk, whose David Meyer had been informed of this by an e-mail from the European Commission, that the EU can only ratify ACTA if all member states have ratified. Given the Dutch total rejection, this means that the EU cannot ratify ACTA at all, even if the European Parliament should vote for ACTA. The e-mail also says that no individual member states will ratify ACTA if the EU will not ratify it; that would mean that the Dutch rejection prevents all other member states from individually ratifying ACTA as well. So the battle seems over.

That really is what the European Commission is telling me. To give a precise quote: if a member state turns down the agreement, “ACTA will stay a valid international agreement but the EU and its member states will not deposit their instrument of ratification until all member states and the European Parliament have ratified it”. If you don’t deposit your instrument of ratification, the rules say, you don’t play.” ? David Meyer 6 February, 2012 08:08 http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/intellectual-property/2012/02/03/actas-eu-future-in-doubt-after-polish-pause-40094978/#comments

Add to that the background and the actual articles given on the following page, and it seems ACTA is really, truly dead in the EU. Rejoice!

The Commission proposal says: “… For this reason, the Commission proposes that ACTA be signed and concluded both by the EU and by all the Member States.
(…)
So ACTA is presented as a mixed agreement. The rules for that can be found in the Nice Treaty. Under (Nice) Treaty establishing the European Community art 133.6 ?the negotiation of such agreements shall require the common accord of the Member States?. Common accord: the EU member states do have a veto. ? http://acta.ffii.org/?p=1122

Lennart (profile) says:

Re: Rejoice! ACTA has already been permanently vetoed for the entire EU by the Netherlands.

The Netherlands might have rejected ACTA and effectively vetoed it for the EU, but there was a caveat. If the Commission would succeed to gain control over criminal enforcement of intellectual property from the member states, the blockade would cease to exist. The Dutch – and the Bulgarians I believe – might have killed ACTA, but it is still moving. A zombie, if you will.

Therefore, we need to vote down ACTA on the European level. Since the Council of Ministers has already agreed to ACTA, and the Commission has signed it, the only player capable of killing the zombie once and forever – in Europe.

Cerberus (profile) says:

Re: Re: Rejoice! ACTA has already been permanently vetoed for the entire EU by the Netherlands.

I see, so you think the EC might try to push ACTA through by changing their (stated) take on competency in the proposal for ACTA?

Of course we should kill ACTA in the EP, whether or not it still has a real chance. It would also give a clear sign to the rest of the world that this treaty is bad, bad.

lennart (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re: Rejoice! ACTA has already been permanently vetoed for the entire EU by the Netherlands.

I think the Commission has probably understood by now that ACTA is not very popular. But there is new legislation underway from the Commission called IPRED, which is intended to harmonize the rules on intellectual property. This would give them the opportunity to include criminal enforcement, getting the members states out of the loop on treaties like ACTA.

This was explained during the workshop on ACTA in the European Parliament by the Commission’s spokesperson.

Cerberus (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:2 Rejoice! ACTA has already been permanently vetoed for the entire EU by the Netherlands.

Hmm which legislation do you mean exactly? I believe IPRED is already in force; the proposal for IPRED-II seems to have been withdrawn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_directive_on_criminal_measures_aimed_at_ensuring_the_enforcement_of_intellectual_property_rights
I seem to recall there was something about revising/amending the first IPRED? Wouldn’t the member states need to vote on that?

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Rejoice! ACTA has already been permanently vetoed for the entire EU by the Netherlands.

It is kind of bird eats cat. Netherlands has already signed ACTA, meaning that they are expected to ratify.
EP is making a decission on whether EU-memberstates should have its signing made valid. If EP votes no, the signatures are invalid and EU-memberstates cannot join ACTA. If EP gives consent, every countrys signature is valid and they are expected to ratify.

Now the question becomes: What happens if some countries who signed does not ratify the treaty? Outside of EU it is one less country ratifying and less chance of ACTA pulling through. Inside EU I believe that the lack of ratification will be insignificant since parliament, commission and council will already have approved and will sign ACTA. The lack of ratifications will only really count as an indefinite delay of following the agreement.

Rottweiler says:

But piracy!

But piracy damnit!

I wonder what the trolls/shils/IPmaximalists have to say now.

Anyway, thats good to hear, although the DEVE vote is next week, and the INTA vote is the most important vote before july, while this is great, I’ll celebrate when ACTA is dead and buried, then prepare for the next big threat; TPP.

Cerberus (profile) says:

Re: But piracy!

It seems to be dead in the EU already (see my comment above). Do you think other countries will still ratify it if the EU rejects it? I doubt it. In any case, there’s still the similarly bad treaty that the EU is trying to force on Canada for some reason:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Economic_and_Trade_Agreement

And there are CISPA and the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the latter of which is as bad as ACTA.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Missed a sensational Article title

sounds as if this comment was made by a complete prat! i will, however, give you the opportunity to explain your comment and prove that you are not. please, make it brief, make it good and make it easily understood so the rest of us can comprehend you logic

Fluba says:

Sensational Article????

What has this got to do with the UK. This is the result of a poorly written deal that infringes on ordinary peoples lives to share and communicate with each other in privacy.And if people cannot make a living doing something they need to move on to find another income stream, I mean I would love to get paid repeatedly and forever for creating an album, but if I cant make enough money doing that, I need to work doing something where I can make money.

Violated (profile) says:

Three Strikes

Speaking on the latest vote, Loz Kaye, leader of the Pirate Party UK, said: “Today has seen significant recommendations to reject Acta in three different EU committees. That’s the kind of ‘three strikes’ I can get behind.

“The European Parliament now has an historic opportunity to show it can be useful and reject Acta outright.”
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