The Only Eight Senators Who Think Extending The Patriot Act Deserves More Discussion

from the way-too-small-a-list dept

Tragically, this list is way too small, but as expected, the Senate has moved much closer to extending some controversial spying provisions of the Patriot Act, without any modifications or new oversight. As we noted when the “deal” was brokered, the Senate leadership (of both parties) hoped to avoid having to actually debate the issue, and the Senate has now voted to skip over any such debate by an overwhelming margin: 74-8. Only eight Senators voted against this move, and they deserve to be highlighted for actually standing up for American principles against over aggressive government surveillance:

  • Max Baucus (Montana)
  • Mark Begich (Alaska)
  • Dean Heller (Nevada)
  • Jeff Merkley (Oregon)
  • Lisa Murkowski (Alaska)
  • Rand Paul (Kentucky)
  • Bernie Sanders (Vermont)
  • Jon Tester (Montana)

It’s really unfortunate that this list is so small. While it does appear that some who voted in favor of cloture are still going to try to introduce amendments that might limit the extensions (but not the overall clauses), it’s a real shame that so many of our elected officials don’t seem to want to even bother discussing what’s at stake.

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Checker says:

Re: Wyden?

Wyden is actually one of the guys leading the fight against the Patriot Act. He’s argued that we need to actually debate it and not just keep passing extension after extension so clearly he didn’t want to vote against debating the bill — that was the subject of last nights vote. We can be sure he will have amendments to rein in the government and will vote against renewing the law also

Kevin (profile) says:

+1 Against (sorta)

Especially in light of the “18 senators too cowardly to attend” comment above, I think it’s only fair to point out that Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) also said he would have voted no, but was prevented from attending the vote by inclement weather. Still, that would have put it at a measly 4 Rep., 4 Dem., & 1 “Socialist”. (Yes, there is a socialist party, btw, but Bernie Sanders is listed as an Independent.)

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: +1 Against (sorta)

Of course the real 3rd party is the Libertarians. If enough people cared about their rights they would be Libertarians. But the US is full of retarded sheep that can’t see that neither the Republicans or Democrats care about them. They care about who’s lining their pockets and wipe their asses with the Constitution.

DCX2 says:

Re: Re: +1 Against (sorta)

There is no way to make a viable third party. The third party leeches votes away from one of the first two parties, weakening that party so that the other one wins. The smart people know this and avoid “wasting their vote”.

The solution is that we need fourth parties. If we simultaneously fracture Republicans and Democrats, then folks might not feel like they’re wasting their vote anymore.

It’s more possible than you might think. Consider all the conservatives who hate Republicans and all the liberals who hate Democrats.

hothmonster says:

Re: Re: +1 Against (sorta)

A party can become a real party by having a canidate receive a certain percentage of votes, I forget the number. After that they are an official party and receive the same money/benefits of a real party.

The closest a party has ever got was the green party with the nader/leduke ticket, they were only a percentage or two off. I would give you better numbers but I’m on my cell

HothMonster says:

Re: Re: Re: +1 Against (sorta)

“In 2000, Nader and his running mate Winona LaDuke received 2,883,105 votes, for 2.74 percent of the popular vote (third place overall),[52] missing the 5 percent needed to qualify the Green Party for federally distributed public funding in the next election, yet qualifying the Greens for ballot status in many states.”

from Nader’s Wiki

E. Zachary Knight (profile) says:

This makes two

This makes two letters I have written to my senators in as many days. Senator Tom Coburn of Oklahoma voted for this measure. Senator James Inhofe did not vote.

I hope that they get the idea that the privacy and due process rights granted by the Constitution are not something that can be tossed to the wind. I hope they realize that the people of this nation will not allow this to continue indefinitely.

CN says:

Misnaming to mislead...

I think it would help if the act were named properly, instead of some positive spin marketing b-s.

Why is it even the “Patriot Act” in the first place? (To mislead, and make opposition seem anti-american scum, obviously.) Should be the “Big Brother’s Watching You Act”, or something like that.

Angry Puppy (profile) says:

Re: Misnaming to mislead...

I remember the first time I heard the title “Patriot Act”. My first thought was: “Oh boy! They’re going to strip every civil liberty won in the past 200 years in one day in the name of patriotism.” And they did. It’s the most un-American thing a US government ever did.

Osama may have gotten himself executed but he did destroy an important part of America and so he did get a partial victory. I can only hope that since the US government is not willing to give up the total power they stole from the US people in order to make the defeat of Bin Laden complete the death of America’s boogie man will result in new found courage to make the politicians rescind an act that had no real effect on terrorism but a profound effect on Americanism.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Misnaming to mislead...

Osama didn’t get himself Executed, he got himself Assassinated. Our government didn’t have the guts to take him in and have a real trial. And now our government is just going to say that the murder of Osama has made a bunch of psychos come out and that they (be our government) need to terrorize us even more.

hegemon13 says:

Re: Re: Misnaming to mislead...

Well, not the most unamerican. FDR sending Japanese people to prison camps was pretty heinous. The creation of the Federal Reserve, the founding of the CIA, and the Wickard vs. Filburn decision all notch a bit higher on the scale of destroying liberty and expanding authoritarian federal government. But, yeah, the Patriot act is up there.

lincko says:

unpatriotic act

Thanks to the eight Senators that voted against this tyrannical bill. Hang in there we will see if we can ellect some new people that speak for the people as you do.I wrote my senator Mrs hutchinson to vote against it.She replied that she would vote for it becuse the people demand it.LOL.I wrote back to ask which group of people would that be?The DHS,FBI God bless whats left of our once great nation

David Bennett says:

Sanders & Paul

Rand actually sounded thoughtful and definitely is correct. I actually was surprised at that. I learned from the comments made here that we have people that don’t seem to have a clue about how our government works. Regarding socialism. Where do you think Highways come from? The tooth fairy? ALL government services including water, sewer, police, fire departments are paid with tax revenue. That’s socialism folks. I suppose some of you think that the United States being the ONLY Industrialized country without universal health care is something to be proud of but guess what? The rest of the industrialized nations are laughing at us for the ignorant attitude of far too many shills for Wall Street and the Insurance companies. Bernie Sanders cares more about your freedom than you do.

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