Best Buy Lawyer Altered Documents In Suit Over Illegal MSN Subscriptions

from the whoops dept

You may have heard recently about the racketeering case against Microsoft and Best Buy, where Best Buy would sign up customers for an MSN subscription without letting the subscriber know. A former Best Buy employee has explained how the whole scam worked. However, the case just got a lot more interesting, as a lawyer for Best Buy has admitted that he altered a few of the documents he handed over in the case, which certainly could end up costing the company millions more in fines. Combined with their other recent lawsuit over different versions of their website inside stores, and you have to wonder why anyone shops at Best Buy at all any more.


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Anonymous Coward says:

I worked for Best Buy for years, and in many stores and in the computer dept, this is not a standard practice for all Best Buys, Sure they all have their little scams so you have to watch what they’re telling you or signing you up for but what the ex-employee in the article is talking about is over the top, and as usual a few “bad apple” stores ruining the whole companies image.

haywood says:

I shop there as a last resort

I know going in that they are planning to relieve me of as much money as possible, while delivering as little product and service as possible. They were the first ones ever to sting me with rebates. There is really nothing they sell that I can’t get somewhere else, cheaper (Newegg, Amazon, Fry’s), I’ve been forced to add them to the list of people who can kiss my ass.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: I shop there as a last resort

I know going in that they are planning to relieve me of as much money as possible, while delivering as little product and service as possible. They were the first ones ever to sting me with rebates. There is really nothing they sell that I can’t get somewhere else, cheaper (Newegg, Amazon, Fry’s), I’ve been forced to add them to the list of people who can kiss my ass.

Fry’s is no better and over 50% of the products they carry are defective (based on a large volume of products we purchased in the past from them). They just keep restocking it back on their shelves until someone buys it and doesn’t bring it back. Newegg is a good choice (never had a problem with them) and Amazon is OK if I really need something.

haywood says:

Re: Re: I shop there as a last resort

Actually I added Fry’s to my list around Christmas time. I included them because I thought it was just me. The final straw was a 20″ LCD monitor that was on a pretty good sale, I ordered it they canceled the order saying out of stock. The very next day it was a leader on the new sale page at $50 more. So they were just out of stock on ones at that price. I’ve added them to the list of people who can kiss my ass.

John says:

No wonder

I can’t figure how everyone did not see this coming.
Best Buy was ok, then it went down real fast……

Buying online saves everyone money. Including Gas money.
Figure every time something changes hands, they have to pay sales tax.
Sure we don’t get to walk into a store and get hounded by sales people.

How often do you go to car dealership to talk to a sales man.
Not many working at Best Buy is a good tech.
Best buy does not want good techs. They don’t know how to lie. Even seen a mechanic that went it to sales.

Give me break…
Wake up every one.

Ragaboo says:

Yeah, SURE this is widespread...

I worked at Best Buy for three years, 1.5 of which was in the computer department, and this NEVER happened and was never even suggested. It’s stupid do think that this would be common practice for a successful business (which Best Buy undoubtedly is), because you’re guaranteed to piss off a customer to make a quick buck.

Best Buy actually does have some business sense, and they’re big on “customer loyalty” and “organic growth” (growing from within your existing customer base), so they would never advocate this — even in a wink-wink, nudge-nudge sort of way — on a corporate level. This is obviously an isolated incident (or maybe a few maverick stores with idiotic, rogue management).

Now the service plans … that’s another story.

haywood says:

Re: Yeah, SURE this is widespread...

I think you drank the Koolaid. It is indeed amazing that management would value a quick buck over a loyal customer base, but it is unfortunately a fact of American corporate life. It is all about the bottom line profits in the quarter you are in, theoretically the future quarter will take care of itself. How do you explain a fake website, admittedly being used in all stores, being the work of a few rouge managers. They lost me after the first fake rebate. The brick and mortars, large and small, need to realize that even the stupid people are getting smarter. The internet empowers consumers.

Jason says:

rewardzone points...

the only reason i shop there is for the reward zone points you get and the coupons that come. the only stuff i buy there is the stuff that costs the same as other places (if i can get it cheaper some where else, i go there instead). at least this way i get points towards other items (helped me to get my X-FI for $70 when they were costing $130 a few months back).

Matt says:

I hate the one bad apple employee

I hate it when there are some “bad apple” employees that ruin the whole thing for all of us. There are some people like this in every organization. So don’t judge an entire COMPANY on one or two douche bags. I have been a Best Buy employee for five years, and I am part of several district, territory and even on a corporate council based on CUSTOMER CENTRICITY!!!
The whole point of this movement is to BETTER HELP AND SUPPORT OUR CUSTOMERS!! There is no scamming. The service plans are more than worth their metal (hence me having about 30 active PSPs and 15 more PRPs). And we DO NOT SIGN A CUSTOMER UP FOR ANYTHING THEY DO NOT WANT OR NEED! To do so is a COMPLETE dereliction from Best Buys company values. One of which is… “Show respect, integrity and humility.”
Those people who do this, I will immediately find and take care of. Just as ANY business owner would. Would you own a retail shop, and then LET your employees lie to customers?
Now as stated on prior comments, there is money to be made. But I ask another question… If you were a business, are you out to NOT make money? Is the whole point of your business to break even and not grow? If that’s your frame of mind, then you DESERVE to be put out of business.

Budman says:

@ 25 Matt

The “bad apple” analogy was used way back when I worked at Best Buy. The fact that it has been used so frequently by Best Buy defenders demonstrates that it’s not a few – but instead is throughout the culture.

The fact of the matter is, Best Buy puts enormous pressure on its stores to hit both high sales numbers and low labor costs on a daily and weekly basis. The Geek Squad is designed to extend the sales, not to act as a service department. Anyone who is honest with himself knows that extended warranties are not only a poor bet, but it can actually put the customer in a weaker bargaining position when things go wrong.

Now, there’s nothing preventing a company from using this strategy. However, a token “customer centricity program” is not going to change the strategy.

I would argue that the fact that it has been given a name, it is temporary and not intended to be a permanent part of the culture.

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