Australian Gov't Says ISPs Should Spy On Users... At The Same Time It's Trying To Attack Google For Doing Less?

from the um,-hypocrisy-much? dept

We've been writing about the Australian government -- mainly Stephen Conroy -- the politician who is actively trying to censor the internet, who is absolutely livid at Google, mainly because the company has accurately pointed out what a bad idea the censorship program would be. He's been making ridiculous and uninformed fear mongering statements about Google for a few weeks now. The latest, which is a blatant falsehood, is that Google's WiFi snarfing collected personal banking details. But, of course, as anyone who actually knows how these things work can tell you, banking sites use encryption. Google can only read unencrypted data, and all of the evidence suggests that Google discarded any encrypted info (not that it could do anything with it anyway).

Of course, while Conroy is grandstanding about how Google might have possibly, maybe collected a tiny snippet of unsecure info that passed through an open WiFi network while it was driving by -- saying that it was "the largest privacy breach in history across Western democracies," -- his government, in his area of regulation, is working on data retention plans that would require ISPs to spy on your internet usage. They don't just want ISPs to store your IP addresses. They want your browsing history and every email stored -- just in case the government wants to go back and check it some time.

That seems like a significantly bigger privacy breach than anything Google did.


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    Karl (profile), Jun 11th, 2010 @ 1:54pm

    Privacy

    "Seems like" is a bit of an understatement.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 11th, 2010 @ 1:57pm

    Re: Privacy

    This is what happens when people are too stupid to have a real job but hey, being a politician these days . . . .

     

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    :Lobo Santo (profile), Jun 11th, 2010 @ 2:05pm

    Re: Privacy

    [satire] -=Australian Government Clarification=-
    This is just a misunderstanding. You see, all the data we collect on you goes to our 'Internet Doctor' and, as you are aware, doctor/patient confidentiality prevents the Internet Doctor from telling anything about you. Feel better now?
    [/satire]

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 11th, 2010 @ 2:26pm

    "(If) you were doing a banking transaction, or transmitting personal information, they could have hoovered it up, sucked it up into their machine," he told ABC TV yesterday.

    hahahaha

     

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    Awesomo, Jun 11th, 2010 @ 2:33pm

    Fear GOOGLE

    ...and their awesome ability to collect data publicly available to anyone... Mwahahahahahaha!

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 11th, 2010 @ 2:41pm

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    sehlat (profile), Jun 11th, 2010 @ 3:35pm

    You just don't understand.

    When a [insert epithets, including greedy] corporation does it, it's evil.

    When a government does it, it's "for the people/children/public safety/your protection."

    See?

     

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    bigpicture, Jun 11th, 2010 @ 4:06pm

    Follow the Money

    Maybe someone should a do a background on Mr. Stephen Conroy's financial transactions to find out whose pocket he is in. We had an elected representative here deny that he had any conflict of interest in the purchase of some Airbus planes instead of NA made Boeings.

    But when they followed the money, they found out that he was getting it in envelopes. Not "for the people by the people" but "screw the people". We got to get rid of these corrupt jerk politicians

     

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    Vlad The Impaled (profile), Jun 11th, 2010 @ 4:12pm

    Its getting silly...

    Conroy needs to leave politics. He'd be far more useful to work for some security department, or even better... become a network administrator at some corporation that has draconian network policies. Yep, that's perfect for him.

    This is a perfect case of his paranoia over his facist, draconian tactics being threatened by the 'Do no evil' company. If you want to try and derail their human initiatives tell the news media and unware/don't care general public that they are evil. Yep, it moves the spotlight off your own facist activities onto someone else while you can further manipulate what was once a freedom loving, fun, country into a military Stalinistic place.

    Mr. Conroy IS big brother. Plain & simple.

    V

     

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    athe (profile), Jun 11th, 2010 @ 5:42pm

    Here's a link to the original article

    Couldn't seem to see one Mike's article above, so here it is: http://www.zdnet.com.au/govt-wants-isps-to-record-browsing-history-339303785.htm

     

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    Alan, Jun 11th, 2010 @ 8:39pm

    Politician has devolved into a term that means little more than a willingness to flaunt your ignorance in public.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 11th, 2010 @ 10:37pm

     

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    soap, Jun 14th, 2010 @ 7:53pm

    worth noting...

    They want to store the data for 5-10 years. Thats all browsing history, all email.. everything they can soak up.

    ...and the ISP's will have to hold this information.

     

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