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by Mike Masnick


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UK Parliamentary Group Blames Entertainment Industry For File Sharing Problem, Opposes Kicking People Off The Internet

from the good-for-them dept

More and more opposition is forming to Peter Mandelson's plan to kick accused (not convicted) file sharers off the internet. The latest is that the All Party Parliamentary Communications Group -- a non-partisan group of UK MPs and Lords -- has come out with quite a report damning the idea. It doesn't just bash the idea of such "three strikes" plans to kick people off the internet, but notes that the whole problem really comes from the entertainment industry itself for not adapting or innovating:

We conclude that much of the problem with illegal sharing of copyrighted material has been caused by the rightsholders, and the music industry in particular, being far too slow in getting their act together and making popular legal alternatives available.

We do not believe that disconnecting end users is in the slightest bit consistent with policies that attempt to promote eGovernment, and we recommend that this approach to dealing with illegal file-sharing should not be further considered.
Looks like David Geffen may need to start taking more UK politicians out for dinner...

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  • Oct 19th, 2009 @ 2:00pm

    Interesting

    by icon Dark Helmet (profile)

    Derek Wyatt, Chairman, actually seems like a pretty interesting character, too! From their website:

    "Before being elected as an MP, Derek was Director of The Computer Channel at BSkyB and travelled extensively throughout America from mid 1995 to research the internet and to assess its impact. Derek is a leading Parliamentary campaigner on internet-related issues.

    On arriving at Westminster he formed the All Party Internet Group (APIG) and remained its Chairman until the merger with apComms in July 2007. APIG won an award for its report on data retention and in 2003 launched a global spam summit. Derek also led several APIG visits to Washington DC to discuss internet issues with US politicians, government officials and industry representatives."

    ....One has to wonder why he spent so much time traveling and researching the web and internet related issues in a multitude of areas and countries when could have just been told all the right answers over a free meal an a blowjob...

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  • Oct 19th, 2009 @ 2:12pm
    by Anonymous Coward

    I read that quite a few of the members of that committee actually have decent knowledge/experience with technology. Too bad that most of the US senators/reps dealing with technology don't.

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  • Oct 19th, 2009 @ 2:45pm
    by icon jdub (profile)

    "the music industry in particular, being far too slow in getting their act together and making popular legal alternatives available"


    BINGO! Talk about hitting the nail on the head!!!

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  • Oct 19th, 2009 @ 2:45pm
    by icon Rabbit80 (profile)

    It is interesting to see that since Mandys plans, the opposition has now started talking so loudly. In the past few weeks alone we have had ISPs speak out, MPs speak out, musicians are speaking out, etc...

    Lets hope the government get the message and give the copyright cartel the middle finger! Perhaps the UK could put itself in a position to lead the way in developing working business models for these industries that don't rely upon fear and criminalising fans.

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  • Oct 19th, 2009 @ 3:22pm
    by Anonymous Coward

    Blame the rape victim,it's always a good idea.

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    • Oct 19th, 2009 @ 3:25pm

      Re:

      by Anonymous Coward

      Indeed. She shouldn't have been in that dark alley by herself in the first place.

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    • Oct 19th, 2009 @ 3:28pm

      Re:

      by batch

      I blame you for making a bad analogy.

      Not doing anything for 10+ years, how is this not the industries fault? We can't hold our breath for dinosaurs to evolve, if we did, we'd be as extinct as they already are.

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    • Oct 19th, 2009 @ 3:29pm

      Re:

      by Anonymous Coward

      Your trolling sucks, dude.

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    • Oct 19th, 2009 @ 3:32pm

      Re:

      by icon LumpyDog (profile)

      I'd say the music industry's less of a rape victim and more of a hooker who charges you for sex, then wants to charge you every time you think of the sex you had with her.

      Oh, and troll much?

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      • Oct 19th, 2009 @ 5:35pm

        Re: Re:

        by icon Josh (profile)

        That's fairly accurate, but I'd say the hooker wants to charge you whenever you think about sex at all, not just with her. Also she gave you STDs.

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    • Oct 19th, 2009 @ 3:33pm

      Re:

      by icon LumpyDog (profile)

      I'd say the music industry's less of a rape victim and more of a hooker who charges you for sex, then wants to charge you every time you think of the sex you had with her.

      Oh, and troll much?

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    • Oct 19th, 2009 @ 4:03pm

      Re:

      by Trails

      Holy moly, was that ever out of line.

      Comparing rape to filesharing? Wow, just wow.

      To any rape victims reading this: I'm sorry I even share the same internet as this douchehole.

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      • Oct 19th, 2009 @ 4:35pm

        Re: Re:

        by Anonymous Coward

        Yeah, don't the trolls know that file-sharing is TERRORISM, not rape?

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        • Oct 19th, 2009 @ 4:53pm

          Re: Re: Re:

          by icon Dark Helmet (profile)

          "Yeah, don't the trolls know that file-sharing is TERRORISM, not rape?"

          And now, introducing for the 1st time ever, the new term to describe file sharing.....RAPORISM!!!!

          What is raporism, you ask?

          Well, it's when you share music or movies while violently raping a man or woman, then blowing yourself, them, AND your hard drive up upon climax.

          Raporism....got love it....

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  • Oct 19th, 2009 @ 3:37pm
    by icon Call me Al (profile)

    I was grinning when I first read about this report. I was just amazed to read something sensible and to the point from a group of MPs.

    Now watch as the government completely ignored them.

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  • Oct 19th, 2009 @ 4:39pm
    by Anonymous Coward

    I saw Mike's mom out to dinner with David Geffen. "Luke I am your father."

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  • Oct 19th, 2009 @ 4:41pm
    by icon lux (profile)

    I agree with this article.

    Why is it that Napster was the first to make music file sharing available to the masses, and not the record labels?

    Why didn't Sony Music or Universal Music Group (or any other large record company for that matter) come out with the first iTunes-like application, instead of Apple?

    Why to this day do I need to use iTunes instead of just going to SunyMusic.com to download it from the horse's mouth?

    I just don't understand all the whining and bitching these record labels put on, when they are reaping what they sow, or didn't sow for that matter. They are behind the times, always have been, always will be, and no amount of suing fans or radio stations is going to save them.

    Record labels are in their death rattle because they were too stupid to capitalize on their own frigging product.

    This is Darwinism in business, and sorry you lose.

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  • Oct 19th, 2009 @ 5:41pm

    Yanno.....

    by Ryan D

    You really would think the record labels would have seen the potential much faster. Downloadable MP3s are an infinite good, with very low cost. Its like a hooker, she sells it, shes still got it, she sells it, and shes STILL got it.

    They would make less money selling songs on CDs because of the cost of manufacture, and besides, people just put them right onto the computer anyways.

    But in reality, common sense? Who even considers it nowadays

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  • Oct 20th, 2009 @ 12:33am
    by Ben

    HOPE IN OUR GOVERNMENT! //////

    WOW! A emotion/feeling I thought was completely lost.

    To the 'All Party Parliamentary Communications Group' of the United Kingdom, I thank you for realizing that bowing to the media is not the way to go. Reason can perhaps still prevail.

    Kudos, I speak for a a lot of people when I say thank you once again.

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  • Oct 20th, 2009 @ 6:00am
    by Anonymous Coward

    This thing will not die, though, until Geffen, Mandelson, and their cronies are denied the right of appeal. Permanently. Otherwise they'll just keep find ways to bring it back.

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