Local Version Of China's Great Firewall Now Required On All PCs In China

from the yeah,-that'll-work... dept

There have been plenty of stories on the inner workings of China's "Great Firewall," whereby various ISPs are threatened with liability if they don't block "bad stuff." Yet, it's all been done at the ISP level. Apparently, that's about to change. A report is making the rounds that, as of July 1st, all PCs sold in China will be required to have client-side censorship software. You have to wonder if the censorship software also includes spying software.... Either way, you have to imagine it won't take long at all for people to figure out how to disable such software.


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    drewmerc (profile), Jun 8th, 2009 @ 1:37am

    unless they are putting it in the bios, any linux live distro will do

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 8th, 2009 @ 1:42am

    Hey that's nice.
    How about that community management over the weekend, Mike?

    Where's my Ballmer Story?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 8th, 2009 @ 1:46am

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    I only mention it because maybe I should take off on a trip to get away from it all more often.

    Anywho, Greetings from Tampa! Anyone know how to conveniently run into Billy Mays, perhaps for lunch, while here? I want to congratulate him on his new series on Discovery.

     

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    Tor (profile), Jun 8th, 2009 @ 2:50am

    France ahead of China this time around

    It seems like the western countries copy the surveilance efforts of China, but this time around France actually seems to be ahead China with their plan to oblige people to install state-approved "anti piracy" security software on every computer of every home with Internet access in France.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 8th, 2009 @ 6:08am

    Might not be that easy

    The tech people for the Chinese government are probably not idiots who would make it possible to simply install a new OS and get rid of the software. If you don't have the software installed, your ISP's routers probably won't event talk to you.

    Basically, this would DRM everything sent over the Internet. Someone will figure out how to get around it, but it probably won't be as easy as going to "Add/Remove Programs" or installing a Linux distro.

     

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    Zaphod (profile), Jun 8th, 2009 @ 6:16am

    If only they would block the real bad stuff...

    If only this firewall, were a real firewall, and could block all the botnets that are flinging spam out of China.

    But those run on server farms, and probably with the government's blessings due to the funds they generate.

    Wonder if they will realize that any .php equipped server farm can become a proxy server in minutes, and that they had better keep an eye on those too.

    Meanwhile, I'll keep blocking all of China and Korea from my website, it's only a couple hundred IP ranges.

     

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    mdmadph (profile), Jun 8th, 2009 @ 6:29am

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    Not quite -- Red Flag Linux is very, very popular in China. I'd be surprised if they got left out.

     

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    Hephaestus (profile), Jun 8th, 2009 @ 6:52am

    LOL .... where do I get a copy of this software???

    If it does include spyware this could be a really big thing for the US intel community, its about time we hacked them back.

     

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    Rekrul, Jun 8th, 2009 @ 10:41am

    Why doesn't every computer sold there just come with am armed guard who will shoot the user in the back of the head the first time they access something they're not supposed to? You know the government would do it if they could...

     

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    The Cenobyte, Jun 8th, 2009 @ 11:11am

    Data overload anyone

    Can you imagine have every computer in China reporting back what it does and when? How the heck would you even deal with that data? I would think it would just be so much data that the noise totally overwelms any signel you hope to get.

     

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    Freedom, Jun 8th, 2009 @ 1:45pm

    Starts as an Add-On...

    This will start as an add-on and before you know it, it will be required for Microsoft to sell its OS in China that it be bundled in at the Kernel level. I wouldn't doubt if they also start using some sort of Smart Card in combination with it.

    It is all about control and if you control the core network, you can control what people are doing on it.

    Let's hope this is a wake up call that we need to preserve and prevent this crap from happening here - before we hear how it will protect the children!

    Freedom

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 8th, 2009 @ 5:11pm

    And..

    Either way, you have to imagine it won't take long at all for people to figure out how to disable such software.

    It probably won't take long for people to go to prison for doing so, either.

     

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    Rokr, Jun 8th, 2009 @ 8:52pm

    I certainly don't want this coming stateside

    This is some scary Orwellian stuff. I feel sorry for those Chinese but at the same time I don't want that stuff coming to GA.

     

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    Garry, Jun 9th, 2009 @ 4:22am

    Either way, you have to imagine it won't take long at all for people to figure out how to disable such software.

    Having a firewall at access level and a filtering program at local would make it very easy to detect who is using the software and who is not. This could lead to authorities investigating and probably ending up prosecuting the people not using the software for some reason or another.

     

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    Matt, Jun 9th, 2009 @ 5:31pm

    China Wall of Fire

    maybe that might mean we can FINALLY fully bypass the firewall. Although, i thought it was cheaper giving all those people jobs.

     

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