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by Mike Masnick


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UK Police Accused Of Violating Copyright By Listening To Music In Police Stations

from the keep-quiet dept

While we've seen performing rights groups like ASCAP be overly aggressive in trying to collect money from anyone holding a "performance" of music, it seems that the UK's "Performing Right Society" (PRS) is pushing the boundaries even more. This is the same group that we noted last year had sued a bunch of auto mechanics for listening to radios in their garages loud enough that customers in the waiting room could hear them. Yes, the PRS insisted that this required a performance license.

It appears that PRS representatives just go around the UK these days trying to see if they can hear music anywhere. One den of piracy that they discovered? Police stations! Yes, they're now accusing 34 police stations with failing to pay for a license because officers were listening to music loud enough that others could hear it. These would be the same police that are out arresting people recently for "Conspiracy To Defraud The Music Industry." Perhaps they should be checking themselves out as well.

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  1. Jun 12th, 2008 @ 2:22pm

    Perhaps

    by Eric the Grey

    Perhaps this will be the straw that breaks the camels back? Maybe someone will realize at this point that it's too ridiculous to continue allowing these people to operate?

    Naw, I doubt it.


    EtG

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  2. Jun 12th, 2008 @ 2:29pm

    Re: Perhaps

    by sonofdot

    So where does this stop? Can I listen to the radio at home through my speakers, or do I have to wear headphones so my wife and children and pets can't hear it, unless I pay a performance license? What absolute bullshit.

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  3. Jun 12th, 2008 @ 2:31pm
    by Anonymous Coward

    Next step up - Politicians.

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  4. Jun 12th, 2008 @ 3:17pm
    by inc

    yea what a fucking crock of shit. Next you'll have to pay for remembering the lyrics.

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  5. Jun 12th, 2008 @ 3:22pm
    by Anonymous Coward

    And of course, it's only a matter of time before they figure out how to read minds and start charging people for even thinking of songs. Imagine the bill you'll get from that song you have stuck in your head...

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  6. Jun 12th, 2008 @ 3:25pm

    So.....

    by Tin Ear

    What are we to do about the ultra bass boomer cars that are driving down the street? Take down the license number and send a complaint to the PRS? You can hear those darn boomers from a block away! Such a blatant violation has got to be punishable by something!

    Note: Incredible sarcasm is intended.

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  7. Jun 12th, 2008 @ 3:49pm

    Re: So.....

    by Anonymous Coward

    screw sarcasim, fine those annoying fuckers through the teeth

    I'd litteraly probably shit myself if the same people who went about blaring their bass didn't drop a brick themselves if you were blaring some good old fashion bluegrass parked outside their hosue.

    But hey, hopefully in 4 years we wont have to worry about anything; we can only pray we're so forutnate.

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  8. Jun 12th, 2008 @ 4:15pm

    Re: So.....

    by cvpunk

    not sure about everywhere but in California there is a law that if your car stereo can be heard from more than a few feet away from your car you can get a ticket. my cousin actually got 7 when he lived in Fremont CA.

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  9. Jun 12th, 2008 @ 4:19pm
    by Doctor of Implants

    I wonder how much longer tell they start requiring my Digital Implants for audio communication ?

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  10. Jun 12th, 2008 @ 4:34pm

    Re: Re: So.....

    by cvpunk

    from doing some reading it looks like it is a US law and the distance is 50 feet or more.

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  11. Jun 12th, 2008 @ 5:05pm
    by Lucretious

    from doing some reading it looks like it is a US law and the distance is 50 feet or more.

    keeping in mind that that particular law is in regards to noise statutes and not copyright bug-fuckery.....

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  12. Jun 12th, 2008 @ 6:08pm

    Talk

    by teknosapien

    About biting the hand that *helps feed you*
    how many more Raids/whatever do you think the authorities will be helping out on. This maybe just the thing that makes the courts look at the total picture of whats happening.

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  13. Jun 12th, 2008 @ 6:22pm
    by Anonymous Coward

    So what will they do to them? Sue them. If I was a police officer, I wouldn't pay. If the whole station's guilty, who in your jurisdiction would arrest you?

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  14. Jun 12th, 2008 @ 6:56pm
    by Anonymous Coward

    ^^^^Good Point 13^^^^

    Although the lawyers are the ones that will keep this moving in the wrong direction...they get paid more if there are more lawsuits.

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  15. Jun 12th, 2008 @ 8:03pm

    Re:

    by Anonymous Coward

    We are only supposed to buy music, but not listen to it.

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  16. Jun 12th, 2008 @ 10:17pm

    Music Ringtones?

    by Griper

    How will they address the ringtones going off in a public place? And what about folks that have music on their answering machines and while waiting on hold?

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  17. Jun 13th, 2008 @ 2:43am
    by CMG

    Wow! It's like they've said

    "Arrest people for listening to music, and while you're at it, stick yourself under arrest!"

    Douchebags.

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  18. Jun 13th, 2008 @ 6:50am

    Music at work

    by Brandon

    When I worked a movie theater, we used to play movie soundtrack CDs through the building that was heard in the theaters between movies and in the lobby. Eventually, they stopped that for what I thought was an outrageous fear of being sued for not having the license to play that music. Instead they switched to cheezy instrumental public domain CDs. I guess it wasn't such an outrageous fear after all!

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  19. Jun 13th, 2008 @ 7:06am

    STUPID

    by Nitro

    I am so embarrassed to live with a generation that has so many idiots. I guess maybe there have always been that many and we just never heard about them because there wasn't anybody stupid enough to take them seriously. It seems major stupidity is spreading further everyday.

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  20. Jun 13th, 2008 @ 10:21am

    SOCAN did this about a decade ago

    SOCAN, the Canadian equivalent of ASCAP. went on a rampage in the 90s threatening barber shops, hair stylists, small resturants and so on because they even dared to have the radio on!

    Pay up or else!

    Even voice mail systems got nailed. (Even though we all know how well telephone lines transmit music, apparently SOCAN figured people would call into the system to listen to opera or something.)

    Today we get silence, Muzak or CBC radio.

    That surely made for a lot of paid up licenses didn't it?

    ttfn

    John

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  21. Jun 13th, 2008 @ 1:35pm

    Re: Re: Re: So.....

    by R.H.

    It's not exactly a 'U.S.' or federal law. However many states or localities have these noise ordinances. For example my city doesn't have such an ordinance however, almost all of the suburbs around us do. It's a hit and miss type of thing.

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