Vonage Continues To Settle Patent Disputes... With Everyone But Verizon

from the that-one-is-personal dept

Just a few days after settling with Sprint over a patent dispute, Vonage has also settled a patent dispute with a small company called Klausner Technologies. It looks like Vonage is really trying to clear the decks of these pesky patent lawsuits -- which still seem rather petty and against the purpose of the patent system. However, it doesn't look like Vonage is anywhere close to settling in its other big patent lawsuit battle. Instead, it's asking the courts to rehear its patent case against Verizon. This really is a shame. While Vonage has faced a variety of struggles on the business front, it was the company that was able to bring VoIP to the consumer market in a way that no other company was willing to do. It's unfortunate that rather than being able to take the service and the company to the next level, it now has to spend so much time and money battling over patents. The technology behind VoIP was nothing special. People had talked about if for ages. What held back VoIP was having the bandwidth to support it and a convincing marketing campaign that showed how easy it was to switch to VoIP while making it seamless with an existing phone system. Vonage was the ones to innovate here -- and now they need to pay up over a bunch of bogus patents.


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    Willton, Oct 12th, 2007 @ 11:37am

    Vonage did not innovate

    They created a marketting plan that makes VoIP earn money. Whoopee. That has everything to do with the economics of the service and nothing to do with the technology. I don't see how that is inventive. Vonage should have done their homework.

     

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    Mike (profile), Oct 12th, 2007 @ 12:03pm

    Re: Vonage did not innovate

    They created a marketting plan that makes VoIP earn money. Whoopee. That has everything to do with the economics of the service and nothing to do with the technology. I don't see how that is inventive. Vonage should have done their homework.

    You seem confused over the definition of innovation. Innovation is about bringing an idea to market successfully. Vonage *did* innovate. Innovation is not about the technology. Technology is merely a piece of the puzzle.

    And, it's the patent office that clearly didn't do their homework. There was a ton of prior art on the patents in question, not to mention that they were quite obvious ideas when the patents were filed.

     

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    sam, Oct 12th, 2007 @ 4:55pm

    mike...

    in all your reports (if i can call them that) that i've viewed, i've yet to hear/read where you have stated that given patent is good, or unique...

    so tell us, ole wise one, just what patents do you look at that are unique, where one who's skilled in the art wouldn't say, "oh... that's just a natural progression, and not unique at all"....

    i'm off the opinion that a few things are truly unique, out of this world, really mind blowing.. .a few are blatant, come on.. never should have been stated verbally because they're so bad... and the rest are in the middle...

    you appear to be a really angry young man, and perhaps you have never had a patent.. as one who has been involved in a few patents, most of the work was somewhat derivative of others, but with a slight/subtle twist.

    and yeah, we worked damm hard to get to that level.

    peace...

     

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    pearl r. elliott, Oct 12th, 2007 @ 5:07pm

    vonage

    i have got vonage, and it is cheaper than the regular phone for me, i am on ssi and ssa, and the little money that we get does not afford us to get a regular phone, so vonage has helped us their in that respect, i hope that it works out for them, i would hate to lose my phone again because i couldnt afford it

     

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    Willton, Oct 12th, 2007 @ 5:32pm

    Re: Re: Vonage did not innovate

    You seem confused over the definition of innovation. Innovation is about bringing an idea to market successfully. Vonage *did* innovate. Innovation is not about the technology. Technology is merely a piece of the puzzle.

    Apparently you are the one that is confused as to the definition of what "innovation" is. Innovation, as per American Heritage Dictionary, is "the act of introducing something new." If VoIP has been around for as long as you say it has, then Vonage did not introduce anything new; all Vonage did was bring it to the marketplace. Bringing it to the market only makes it accessible. That's called successful marketing, not innovation.

    And, it's the patent office that clearly didn't do their homework. There was a ton of prior art on the patents in question, not to mention that they were quite obvious ideas when the patents were filed.

    If the patent is so damn obvious, why can't a post-KSR court find its invalidity? Just because you think it's obvious and there is a lot of prior art that talks about it does not make it obvious in the eyes of the law. The fact that Vonage did not appeal it's validity is prima facie evidence that Vonage thought Verizon's patent was valid. Apparently Vonage disagrees with you.

     

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    RandomThoughts, Oct 12th, 2007 @ 6:01pm

    Vonage brought VoIP to the market in a way no one else was willing to do? You mean, like at a loss? You mean by skipping 911 provisions even though it was sold as phone service?

     

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    glitch, Oct 12th, 2007 @ 6:41pm

    read a little deeper on innovation

    Marketing innovation:
    is the development of new marketing methods with improvement in product design or packaging, product promotion or pricing.

    product promotion is what Vonage did, better than AT&T or Verizon

    i had 'em both...Vonage was the best

    and i am waiting for Comcast to get nailed for patent stuff
    i believe their Digital Voice is in fact VOIP, stripped of the inet requirement..i also had Digital Voice, it sucks, too

     

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    Willton, Oct 12th, 2007 @ 8:38pm

    Re: read a little deeper on innovation

    If promotion fits your definition of innovation, then you have a pretty flimsy view of what innovation is. I'm no economics or marketing expert, but I'm pretty sure that promotion is the backbone of marketing a product. I don't see how that's innovative.

     

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    RandomThoughts, Oct 15th, 2007 @ 6:52am

    Glich, of course Comcast uses VoIP. It stands for voice over Internet protocol. How you do VoIP is what got Vonage nailed. AT&T, Verizon and all the cable co's use VoIP, but that doesn't mean they are all doing the same thing.

     

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