ISPs Selling Your Information Again

from the it's-just-your-privacy-don't-you-want-to-buy-some-stuff dept

In the past, when ISPs have attempted to make money off their users' clickstream data, they have met with fierce objections. Now, a new company, NebuAd is asking ISPs to provide not only clickstream data, but also your personal information such as physical location -- and they then want to use this data to target ads to you. But not to worry, your embarrassing halitosis problem won't outed by a traveling salesman selling mouthwash, since according to the company's CEO, "We only look at consumer sites - not ones that are sensitive. So if you go to a sex site, we don't track that. If you look up something for HIV positive, we don't look at that. But if you are planning travel to the South of France or are researching a Lexus SUV, we do track that." Uh yah, right. Ad companies always have the users' best interests in mind, don't they?


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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 26th, 2007 @ 1:46pm

    First

    This is complete crap. I don't think that personal information should be sold by any means what so ever.

     

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    Rick, Sep 26th, 2007 @ 1:52pm

    Where's my cut?

    If an ISP sells your information, this should be clearly defined and disclosed to the customer in ENGLISH, not legal-ease.

    The customer should also be entitled to a large discount on their service and the choice to 'opt-out' easily.

    Personally, I'd be willing to let them have my clickstream data - for $50/month.

     

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    You never know, Sep 26th, 2007 @ 1:58pm

    Hmmmmmm, Invasion of privocy, Disclosing personal information with out prior premission, just to mention a couple of issues here. One could wind up owning the ISP here.......

     

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    Stute, Sep 26th, 2007 @ 3:19pm

    Well... If they do that...

    I want free high speed internet access. Nay, I DEMAND FREE HIGH SPEED INTERNET!

     

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    Freenet user, Sep 26th, 2007 @ 3:26pm

    Just use an encrypted connection

    if all your data is encrypted, they can't track it.

    one P2P network that is not designed for file sharing, but to support free speech, is Freenet. it's encrypted and no file is stored in one location, but rather spread out. that way, nothing can be "removed" from the network, but can die over time from lack of use. additionally, the have message-boards through Frost, and even provide tools for uploading your own Freesite (jSite). Its not perfect yet, but the idea and determination is definantly there.

    www.freenetproject.org/

     

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    Thinker, Sep 26th, 2007 @ 4:05pm

    There are solutions...

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 26th, 2007 @ 4:16pm

    Re: Just use an encrypted connection

    So Freenet is a BitTorrent app with real encryption and cleans out unused trackers? Interesting improvement on a fairly neat protocol.

     

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    Haywood, Sep 26th, 2007 @ 6:11pm

    Targeted ads

    I will never ever buy anything from a targeted ad. That is the quickest way to guarantee I won't buy anything you have to sell. I can't be alone in this. All this is is advanced spam.

     

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    Danny, Sep 26th, 2007 @ 10:06pm

    Huh?

    So the ISPs charge us for net access and then sell the data and info across said net for even more profit? Double dip...

    And despite all this high speed internet are still so blasted high. Like comment #2 said there should be an opt-out option and a discount for those that go along with it.

     

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    Some One, Sep 27th, 2007 @ 2:33am

    Actually...

    Actually, FCC ruled that phone companies can sell/trade/market ALL information they have about you to other companies. For instance, your name, address, who you call and thier phone numbers, when you've called them, how long you talked to them, etc, anything you see on your phone bill. Stuff police have to have a warrant for, FCC says they can just sell it. Previously this was under an "opt in" policy, which means they had to ask you to sell this stuff. Then FCC decided, nah, its "opt out" so you have to ASK THEM to not do it.
    Call up your phone company and ask them to not allow any distribution of your CPNI

    Defenders of this will claim they can only sell/trade to "Affiliates"
    Well who the frig are they? Affiliates could be anyone.
    Anyway, there's more info here:
    http://www.epic.org/privacy/cpni/
    If you google CPNI you can find other info.
    If you ask me, this is a much more serious issue, but no one seems to care.

     

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    Rob Blatt, Sep 27th, 2007 @ 6:08am

    Re: Actually...

    Affiliates are anyone that gives them money to be an affiliate.

    I'm not selling affiliates, but I'll sell friendship. Who wants to be my friend? All you have to do is make three for your friends be my friend and you can be my friend for free!

    Friendship not guaranteed.

     

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    Joe Blow, Sep 27th, 2007 @ 6:09am

    Bitch

    Just sucks

     

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    Harry S. Balls, Sep 27th, 2007 @ 1:24pm

    My country tis of theee.. WTF??

    "Personally, I'd be willing to let them have my clickstream data - for $50/month."

    Good luck. Back in the 1990's, the Supreme Court ruled that we are NOT entitled to keep our private data private, that companies can use and abuse it for profit, but nothing to the ones being used for profit.

     

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    init_6, Oct 5th, 2007 @ 7:28am

    Spam them.

    I say we come up with a way to flood there networks with fake info While your computer is at idle it just gives fake clickstream data. if enough people give fake info then all the data becomes bad.

     

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    angrymofo, Jan 17th, 2008 @ 2:46pm

    fuck them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

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