So a portion of a movie, not the whole thing, ended up on Bittorent that can act as an advertisement for the full movie.
So...what are the movie studios going to say when another workprint is leaked, one missing all the special effects? Ya know, like what happened with that Wolverine Origins movie? It's pretty much the same thing. The fact that it's done with or without their permission doesn't matter - in the end, a portion of an unreleased movie ends up accessible for free viewing, acting as an advertisement.
No, they're not throwing insults. They're throwing shit. I wouldn't call what they wrote insults. Where I come from, insulting someone is an art-form and what darryl et al did...is NOT.
Now darryl, I have to admit - I too found this a bit beyond me. What I didn't do is turn up on the comments and fling my feces around, bemoaning that fact. By constantly complaining about it, you've only driven more attention to your single digit IQ.
You did not have to even attempt this little puzzle. Since you found it too hard, you then didn't have to screetch about it. Drop it and move on. But no, I forget. This is Techdirt, where the trolls have OCD times infinity.
Well...Bad can = Sour...and church....I dunno...church begins with a c?
If this isn't hard, then how come you've been soundly countered each and every time you've posted here? Not once have any of us admitted "Well, you got me, your argument is sound, your evidence solid, you've convinced me". If you come up with a sound argument and solid evidence, I will admit it, I wouldn't be ashamed to be. I'm a man who thrives on evidence and welcomes having my viewpoints challenged. I can pretty much assume everyone else here is the same.
So then, legally speaking, it's NOT theft! You don't turn up in court hearing "Well, we're going to charge you with theft, but not really, instead it's copyright infringement". They're two different crimes, with different case laws, different charges and different sentences.
The reason I didn't ask cpt was because he already had backed up his argument. Re-read the @ 11:44am comment, last paragraph, second sentence. Right there is a link to where he argued copyright is utilitarian. He argued a point, provided evidence and reasons, to which you responded with "Nope, not true" and nothing else. Your response was therefore meaningless.
IANAL but that case law you just cited is from a state court, New York. Copyright law is treated at the federal level if I recall correctly, so a New York judge saying theft encompasses intangibles wouldn't be binding.
Yes, culture is flourishing but again, you've neglected to say that this is due to copyright. In fact, it's plain to see that more and more works are being created in spite of, and not because of, copyright, what with remixes et al. Have a look at ThatGuyWithTheGlasses.com
Going by strictly the letter of the law, the videos on that site are infringing - while reviews, they always throw in clips of music or videos that are not relevant to the discussion. That site is huge and can arguably be called one giant infringement site, but is also a thriving cultural house in spite of copyright.
The moment you tell someone in a debate to do the busy-work in support of your argument is the moment you have lost. I don't have any motivation to look up what you're supporting. You do. If you want to convince me of something, back up your points. I will read them, but I cannot promise to agree with you.
The main reason I will not agree with you is because I have never heard of a single copyright case, at least in modern times, where someone who infringed on copyright was charged with and successfully prosecuted and sentenced with theft. If there have been such cases, share them with us. I however will not do the leg-work of searching. That is your job.
Such as...?
I for one am getting tired of you copyright supporters saying something short with nothing to back it up. Well...what are these definitions? Are they backed up by case law?
"I don't think that's remotely true or defensible."
Where's the rest of that comment? Ya know, the part where you explain why it's not true?
Just to spell things out for...certain people before they run their mouth off...
The police had no solid evidence that the accused had owned the child porn. The hard drives may have been in his possession, but the police were unable to establish beforehand whether any child porn found on those drives was placed there by the defendant or by someone else. Basically, the only solid evidence (if there was any), at least in this case, was in the defendant's possession and obviously, as a man being accused of a crime, he didn't have to help those accusing him.
A public performance of ONLY ONE. ONLY ONE PERSON can access the signal being transmitted by the antenna.
Where is the case law that running long cables suddenly means its a public performance, especially since here, again, its to ONE PERSON?
And thanks to the fact Aereo uses a separate antenna for each customer, it's the EXACT same situation as from your rooftop antenna to your TV. Only one person can access the signal being sent from each antenna, therefore it's not a public performance, therefore, there's no licence fee.
....How does one steal a FREE weekly paper? Or OTA transmissions? As long as the transmissions aren't encrypted, I can and will capture them and broadcast them again if I want to.
"?[t]he copyright is not an inevitable, divine, or natural right that confers on authors the absolute ownership of their creations. It is designed rather to stimulate activity and progress in the arts for the intellectual enrichment of the public.?
So Blue, bob...are you going to yammer on about how copyright's purpose is somehow supposed to be about enriching the artist? Or that the artist should have total control over the work?
You're not addressing anything either. You're just standing around shouting for the world to give him what he wants for no reason.
The way point 2 there is worded, it ironically means that games sold digitally but without DRM (Gog.com for example) shouldn't have their purchaser's rights ensured.
Copyright is a law. To go around calling someone names like "anti-copyright" is basically saying that that law is perfect, and only evil heretics destined for hell would dare question it.
So AJ what's so holy and blessed about copyright? Why is it bad for someone to be anti-copyright? I said it before, you're attacking Mike merely for questioning a law, irregardless of his opinion's strengths or merits.
For example, I'm personally against abortion (although I can see myself agreeing with in extreme circumstances), yet I wouldn't go around saying someone is evil merely for being pro-abortion. I recognise the possibility that I may be wrong and that trying to push my morals and ethics on everyone else is in and of itself damaging.
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Are you going to name these friends, at least the author and the composer? Can you give us links to their works?
Here's one difference between you and Mike, one that is VERY IMPORTANT. Mike says "Copyright isn't needed by all artists, and here's a list of successful artists who've succeeded without it". You say you have a brother and a friend...but don't name them.
Basically...Mike is providing evidence to back up his statements and you aren't. Citation needed, for the 5 billionth time.