Hogwash, LG! For your "but we're up front" argument to hold water, then your opt out rate would be no different if you allowed users to decline data sharing but still keep full Smart services (in which case, you would).
That may not be legal with one provider, but if:
--- provider A contributed a usable layer 1 and an unusable layer 2, while
--- provider B provided a unusable layer 1 and a usable layer 2
then both providers would be compliant, and yet copyright could be infringed.
Sure, but then when a plague wipes out 99.9% of humanity in a year or two's time, and none of the technology still works, then you're really gonna regret not being one of the tiny Luddite fraction of the remaining 0.01% that still knows how to herd goats, make fire and knap flints!
There's strength in diversity. Always good to respect people's opinions, however totally freakish and stupid they are (as in this case)!
Money contributed - money used successfully - no return to contributors. Not an investment then, but rather a donation.
Hollywood should register as a charity to avoid scamming (er, misleading) people with both money and optimism, otherwise at some point (why not already?!) they'll be prosecuted for confidence trickery (i.e. fraud).
Not only can the Nigerian 419 scammers learn something from Hollywood, but there could be a movie in this! :-)
Finally, someone has actually listened to the object of this discussion.
There was me fuming (albeit quite smugly, I have to say) that you had all failed to confirm that this was NOT the most sensational piece of music ever produced. Might this not perhaps have been a uniquely glorious combination of sounds capable of producing a minimum of five orgasms per second for the listener while simultaneously reversing global warming, bringing about world peace and making my head hair grow back? For that, 3000 pounds would (as many of us - especially the follically challenged - might agree) be a bargain!
Self-tested. Smugness over.
All the music (unsure that this is the correct use of the word) did for me was to set my ears ringing, turn my brain to a strange combination of mushy peas and razor blades, propel me swiftly in the direction of the bathroom, and make me wish I had a second-hand ICBM to lob at the abode of the choir members of Gaggle (which Google quite correctly defines as "A disorderly or noisy group of people"), or whatever they are called. So much for world peace! And hair restoration.
In this instance, silence is much more golden. And a helluva lot cheaper.
Mind you ... do you think I could copyright a few seconds of silence, and then ask you all to pay me royalties whenever you listen to (or produce) a copy or interpretation thereof?
No longer in the UK, but used to be, so have some reason to believe that this would break EU law.
As far as I know, EU Data Protection legislation specifically makes it an offence to obtain data for one purpose and then to subsequently use it for another unrelated purpose without obtaining explicit permission from each data subject.
Are governments above the law!? And even if they are legally permitted to be, is "do as I say, not as I do" government good for society?
Techdirt has not posted any stories submitted by Anonymous Cowshit.
And just as I was about to post a comment ...
... *poof*
Hey, where did TechDirt go? Ce qui se passe?!
Much smoke ... blown you know where
Hogwash, LG! For your "but we're up front" argument to hold water, then your opt out rate would be no different if you allowed users to decline data sharing but still keep full Smart services (in which case, you would).
Re: Re: Re: Seems dubious
Of course, to avoid copyright altogether, just make sure that both layers are independently useless (kinda like a pair of encryption keys)!
Re: Re: Seems dubious
Agreed, that is the principle behind it.
That may not be legal with one provider, but if:
--- provider A contributed a usable layer 1 and an unusable layer 2, while
--- provider B provided a unusable layer 1 and a usable layer 2
then both providers would be compliant, and yet copyright could be infringed.
Just plain daft
People blow their brains out with guns, but you can still buy The Gun Mug.
Sometimes elevators fall and kill the occupants, but the Falling Elevator Death t-shirt is still available.
Some people should go get a life. Or a TV. Or a yo-yo. Anything to distract them from such pettiness.
Re: The survival of the species
And yes, I should have said "the remaining 0.1%" (100% less 99.9% doesn't equal 0.01%). Sorry, but my calculator gave me the wrong answer.
What will we have to blame when the technology's all gone, I wonder?!
Re: The survival of the species
Sorry, didn't intend to double-post!
The survival of the species
Sure, but then when a plague wipes out 99.9% of humanity in a year or two's time, and none of the technology still works, then you're really gonna regret not being one of the tiny Luddite fraction of the remaining 0.01% that still knows how to herd goats, make fire and knap flints!
There's strength in diversity. Always good to respect people's opinions, however totally freakish and stupid they are (as in this case)!
Point of no return
Money contributed - money used successfully - no return to contributors. Not an investment then, but rather a donation.
Hollywood should register as a charity to avoid scamming (er, misleading) people with both money and optimism, otherwise at some point (why not already?!) they'll be prosecuted for confidence trickery (i.e. fraud).
Not only can the Nigerian 419 scammers learn something from Hollywood, but there could be a movie in this! :-)
Re: OMG - my ears!
Finally, someone has actually listened to the object of this discussion.
There was me fuming (albeit quite smugly, I have to say) that you had all failed to confirm that this was NOT the most sensational piece of music ever produced. Might this not perhaps have been a uniquely glorious combination of sounds capable of producing a minimum of five orgasms per second for the listener while simultaneously reversing global warming, bringing about world peace and making my head hair grow back? For that, 3000 pounds would (as many of us - especially the follically challenged - might agree) be a bargain!
Self-tested. Smugness over.
All the music (unsure that this is the correct use of the word) did for me was to set my ears ringing, turn my brain to a strange combination of mushy peas and razor blades, propel me swiftly in the direction of the bathroom, and make me wish I had a second-hand ICBM to lob at the abode of the choir members of Gaggle (which Google quite correctly defines as "A disorderly or noisy group of people"), or whatever they are called. So much for world peace! And hair restoration.
In this instance, silence is much more golden. And a helluva lot cheaper.
Mind you ... do you think I could copyright a few seconds of silence, and then ask you all to pay me royalties whenever you listen to (or produce) a copy or interpretation thereof?
Classic Function Creep As EU Police May Gain Access To Asylum Seekers Fingerprint Database
No longer in the UK, but used to be, so have some reason to believe that this would break EU law.
As far as I know, EU Data Protection legislation specifically makes it an offence to obtain data for one purpose and then to subsequently use it for another unrelated purpose without obtaining explicit permission from each data subject.
Are governments above the law!? And even if they are legally permitted to be, is "do as I say, not as I do" government good for society?