All these comments bring something we need as a country to realize. The fact we take 12,even 13 years of one's life simply to educate them into how to go to more school (College) is a horrific waste of resources and ingenuity. You're a legal adult/emancipated when you reach the age of 18. Why not (again) design primary and secondary school to ensure you HAVE the basic skills to then be independent at age 18?. Since the 60's college has become the "Great Avoider". The 4, 5 or more year extension to childhood more often undermining more core values including independent thinking than promoting it. Too many believe a person becomes smarter by acting stupid and that in itself tracends all else in the "college experience" 12 to 13 years of school is enough and during that time of becoming "a productive adult" one will know if they're cut-out to be an entrepeneur or not. Why take advanced courses to just take more courses?. Why not take busienss math and business English?. Does taking Andiluvian Art History in college REALLY make one a more rounded person, OR just give some prof a guaranteed job?. Is college all about accepting theoretical AND heretical ideology in exchange for a good grade? Is college more about leftist endoctrination rather than liberal, well-rounded education?
Germany learned the hard way. You can't have your populace as a whole seek to stay in school until they're 30, retire when they're 50, and actually compete in the world.
As far as the need to actually teach entrepeneurship, you either already have that spirit or you never will. It's like spending all your time learning a tool BUT never actually using it. What good is a tool that is so hard to learn, it never produces anything?. Entrepenuership is all about having the personal discipline and self-motivation to strike out on one's own and make their own way. If you're waiting on someone else to make you do it, you might as well just be satisfied with the lower-middle income government "clerk" job watching the clock for he next 30 years.
Whether it's cabbies, labor unions, or banks, doesn't matter, we need to break-up cartels by allowing competition.We don't really limit foreign competitors from dumping goods here via GATT and Nafta, why should we then limit competition within our own borders. Teddy Roosevelt, perhaps our greatest president (as he trutly believed the words of his sworn oath) to protect us against enemies both foreign AND domestic) by taking on the trusts, the railroad monopolies, the banks.
Find out via an FOI request how much your local politicos got in "campaign contributions" from the cab lobby then OUT 'EM via talk radio, the blogs, etc. A contribution is just a bribe by a prettier name.
It's a shame that bloggers HAVE to carry the load now. (the movement pretty much created by Matt Drudge back in the 1990's). Why?. Because the last 2-decades of journalists aren't only arrogant, they are fantastically LAZY...You call a local news station or paper with something happening. They want YOU to send them the pictures, write the story, then submit it for FREE! What are they doing?. Usually downloading "canned" news (From the Net OR satellite) to act as filler for their multitude of repetitive newscasts thruout the day.
Unless something just "falls into their laps", the so-called "newspeople" are going to go hunt anything down themselves. Sometimes, it's the station management that is too CHEAP to actually pay the gas to go drive to a story. I witnessed a utility pole falling and blocking a section of a street next to the mighty University of SC. It just fell on it's own from rot. Called Channel 10 on my cell (this thing was blocking the road/narily missing a car)..It was a Sunday morning I called. GOt a dude in Master Control. He not only 1)Didn't have a newscrew OR even a free-lancer available, he 2)Wasn't going to call one even though the story was only 5 BLOCKS from the station's backdoor and the real kicker 4)He admitted his management didn't want to piss-off either the power company (who's pole it was) OR putting USC in a "bad light". In other words, PROTECT the Status Quo!. I told him in disgust that it was too BAD no one got KILLED by the pole so WIS would get off their dead-asses to cover it.
I called the three other stations and NONE of them would dispatch. I finally got intouch with a couple of online publications however. They got a pix of it, wrote the story, AND added the obvious question "How many MORE utility poles are unsafe SCE&G??? (This was tied in with the fact South Carolina Electric and Gas had charged ratepayers extra to hire a company just to inspect ALL poles in the SC Midlands nary 10 months before)..
TO get a Journalism Degree now is like the old General Studies program alot of colleges had. It's for those too lazy, undisciplined, and/or STUPID to go into business or even teaching!..ESPECIALLY if you're a hot-looking Bimbo who's only asset IS her looks. But it's the way of life. When an individual or business starts just "phoning it in" (going thru the motions), there forms a vacumn someone else finds an opportunity..
Right on BLOGGER!!!!..Keep up the spirit of Ben Franklin and Thomas Paine..The PEN/Keyboard IS mightier than the sword!
I dispise all commercials that try to sell a gadget by deriding someone. Hollywood has for decades pushed the idea that "Kids Smart/Parents Dumb". NO, Kids are Idiots and too often the Parents are too. How?. By the parents acting childishly.
A few shows get it right though. Forget some of their names, but one in particular had this 15 year old "know-it-all" who would pull a stunt, and wind-up getting busted/making a mess out of things. Back in my time, we had "The Uncle Arthur Stories for Children" and "David and Goliath" clay-mation that showed what happens when children are left to their own devices. You don't have to be particularily religious to believe "A Child left unto him/herself will only bring shame"(upon the household). Anyway, kids will always try to "take the easy way out", cut corners, be inheritantly lazy (basically wanting the same attention as babies BUT let do whatever THEY want WHENEVER they want with ZERO consequences). That's why you have so many adults on welfare today. A personal crisis that has become a national disastor.
What has this to do with Facebook/MySpace, you might add?. If the kids are afraid of their parents coming on there, then they the children/adolescents are only trying to HIDE what they INHERENTLY know is "wrong". Nuff'. They know they shouldn't be saying/doing it and don't want Mom/Dad finding out about it.
Exactly!. The little kids need to PLAY, the older one's need to do chores, do their homework, then join the family to watch tv. The result makes for a responsible, unselfish, well-rounded socially ADULT. It reminds me of a story where a father got so tired of seeing his sons "slouching" on the floor (remember that term "slouching"), he took the game controlers away from them and handed each a rake and said "Go to it". He made them work. They whined. He added to the work.
It didn't take long for them to 1)Help out without being asked much less nagged 2)They got in shape physically
I heard something about tweenies mentioned here. While doing school bus driving about 9 years ago, I had this one 11 year old girl tell me that "I had to show HER respect before she gave me any"...I told her she hadn't "earned the right to breathe the same air as I did"...That she was a "CHILD"
She stormed-off pitching a tantrum. This was on a Friday. Monday morning 7am, Mom escorts same child to bus stop. Thinking "Ut Oh", I was suprised to have Mom tell me "My Daughter has something to tell you sir". Mom made the tweenie 1)Apologize not only to ME but the ENTIRE bus (of other kids) 2)Asked that I have her sit up front across from me. After overcomeing being overwhelmed, I thanked them both and from them on had nary a problem on that route the rest of the semester.
Just ONE parent commited that ONE SIMPLE (loving) Act and ALL those kids were effected by it.
I agree wtih you about the half-life, if that long, of anything "cool" but isn't that the crux of everything that is trendy?. Personally, I know, not just believe, the problems with society in general has been the elevation of triviality, shallowness, and superficiality. In other words "it's ALL about ME". OR the Epitomy of down-right "Selfishness". Isn't the real problem with teens is that we adults permit this because we're afraid to say "No"?
AND as far as not following your teens around in the Mall, why not?. Alot of mall's have kicked unescorted teens out because quite frankly, they're like Chris B said and I'll add. "Idiots until they PROVE otherwise". The proof of such is that
1)They become self-motivated to get up and do what they should without me nagging.
2)That they don't lie, cheat, steal.
3)That they NEVER, EVER, sneak around. I hate "sneakiness" worse than up-front defiance.
4)They WILL show respect to all persons, especially those in authority while learning how being responsible leads to the purest form of true freedom.
5)That they are engrained with the need to be SELF-LESS/Serve others in need. Instead of walking around the Mall WASTING Precious time and becoming a pest, why don't they go to a rest home and visit someone who is lonely?.Volunteer time with the Red Cross..Heck, I can think of alot of so-called adults who could drop the tennis and yoga classes and burn calories helping a neighbor in need clean their yard instead.
NO, we ALL think we're "owed" some sort of special treatment just for existing instead of realizing the pinnacle of human accomplishment is to think of other's first and foremost before oneself. You don't have to be the next Mother Theresa, but there's always someone deserving down on their luck.
Follow your kids Bob V. They might not want it. But they NEED it.
You got it!. WHO really cares?. It's all lazy-minded "drivel" telling us "these people have TOO much time on their hands". WHICH reminds me, my 55 year old self needs to do an oil change on the Toyota right now.
SO, insisting that his kid's have limits make them a loser in your eye's eh?. NO, you're the one that perhaps needs to
1)Shut off the computer
2)Go outside
3)DO sometning constructive
4)Grow up
5)Read Chris B's post about kids being idiots however I would say I'd add "ignoring what I said" to the list of "how I'll react" if they decide to try me. I personally don't need the creep with the mustache selling books to tell me how to "stop backtalking, disrespect, upheaval" from MY teens.
BTW, prior to the 1950's, there was little of this tripe of letting adolecents "find themselves" or having their "own space". Dr.Benjamin Spock, the avowed Communist urged parents to just let kids have their way, to pitch tantrums,e tc. It was all "healthy". You see where it got us?.
Heh, you're to be applauded. FINALLY a parent who has the courage and TRUE LOVE to be one. SO many parents haven't matured enough to accept the responsibility of yea, I have to be the Blue Meanie. Kid's need and actually crave limits and you have to be very clear. It's the parent's role to guide their offspring to tell the truth, to not beat around the bush, to not be lazy, and most importantly to punish them immeadiately when the kid is being "sneaky". Otherwise, they will undoubtedly turn out to be unscrupulous, amoral adults whose life AND the live's of their offspring will become a miserable mess.
AN idle mind IS the Devil's Workshop. In fact, they'd be a whole lot LESS problems if parent's insisted on keeping their teenager's BUSY with the task of becoming A PRODUCTIVE MEMBER of SOCIETY, IE, a REAL ADULT, rather than perpetuating the current notion of childhood through college past the age of 30.
Plus, like you said, until a kid reaches 18, you basically own 'em. When they're on-their-own, you just hope and pray for the best.
Good for you. You're not only growing up, you're growing wiser too. You're probably not a sneak either. AND in conclusion, you're finding out there's more to life than sitting all day typing inane lol's.
You got it and let me add a note from a friend of mine who IS a United Senior Pilot (Don made something of himself while I languish with my USC degree BUT I digress).
He has had to LEAVE the cockpit at O'Hare and SHOW the baggage handlers how you do weights and balance. He was written UP and all flight crews embarking from O'Hare to not "harrass OR "unfairly criticize" the baggage handlers/ground crew in their jobs"..Don told them he, the passengers, and the AIRCRAFT's SAFETY was more important than some DAMN "Quota Employee's FEEEEE-lings". The Pilot's Union agreed. However, if you want to see a nightmare, go to Columbia, SC's airport and try to send a package via United. You have never in YOUR LIFE seen a bunch of freakish, neophytes all of which are infected with an incredibly acute case of the "What'eva" attitude. You might also be waiting to receive a life-saving piece of equipment, like a portable dialysis machine. You have all the information, the flight times, the bill of lading BUT you find out "it's not on that flight". When you ask "Where is it?". They don't know and they quite frankly do not CARE!.
More than the guy's guitar and how United acted contemptuously about it, shouldn't United, in a post-911 world be for F'n concerned about S-A-F-E-T-Y!!!!..
These airlines should be fined, HELL rise-up and put a few of them out of business with ZERO hope of a gov't safety-net bailout. AND, strip away the invisible protection of the CORPORATION and go after the men and women AT-THE-TOP and hold them civily and CRIMINALLY negligent.
This was just a guitar, will tommorow be 300 people?.
Time to use the BIG F-word toward the Management Club attitude that permeats Corp America these days. F-O-R-C-E them to make the Customer Number 1 again because even when the customer is sometimes wrong, the Customer is ALWAYS RIGHT. Anyone can go down the street and be treated like Shat. I want to see companies EXCEED my expectations once again. To make them worthy of my business.
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That's why we need to teach practical courses in H.S.
All these comments bring something we need as a country to realize. The fact we take 12,even 13 years of one's life simply to educate them into how to go to more school (College) is a horrific waste of resources and ingenuity. You're a legal adult/emancipated when you reach the age of 18. Why not (again) design primary and secondary school to ensure you HAVE the basic skills to then be independent at age 18?. Since the 60's college has become the "Great Avoider". The 4, 5 or more year extension to childhood more often undermining more core values including independent thinking than promoting it. Too many believe a person becomes smarter by acting stupid and that in itself tracends all else in the "college experience" 12 to 13 years of school is enough and during that time of becoming "a productive adult" one will know if they're cut-out to be an entrepeneur or not. Why take advanced courses to just take more courses?. Why not take busienss math and business English?. Does taking Andiluvian Art History in college REALLY make one a more rounded person, OR just give some prof a guaranteed job?. Is college all about accepting theoretical AND heretical ideology in exchange for a good grade? Is college more about leftist endoctrination rather than liberal, well-rounded education?
Germany learned the hard way. You can't have your populace as a whole seek to stay in school until they're 30, retire when they're 50, and actually compete in the world.
As far as the need to actually teach entrepeneurship, you either already have that spirit or you never will. It's like spending all your time learning a tool BUT never actually using it. What good is a tool that is so hard to learn, it never produces anything?. Entrepenuership is all about having the personal discipline and self-motivation to strike out on one's own and make their own way. If you're waiting on someone else to make you do it, you might as well just be satisfied with the lower-middle income government "clerk" job watching the clock for he next 30 years.
Break up the gov't backed cartels
Whether it's cabbies, labor unions, or banks, doesn't matter, we need to break-up cartels by allowing competition.We don't really limit foreign competitors from dumping goods here via GATT and Nafta, why should we then limit competition within our own borders. Teddy Roosevelt, perhaps our greatest president (as he trutly believed the words of his sworn oath) to protect us against enemies both foreign AND domestic) by taking on the trusts, the railroad monopolies, the banks.
Find out via an FOI request how much your local politicos got in "campaign contributions" from the cab lobby then OUT 'EM via talk radio, the blogs, etc. A contribution is just a bribe by a prettier name.
The Modern SO-Called Journalists.
It's a shame that bloggers HAVE to carry the load now. (the movement pretty much created by Matt Drudge back in the 1990's). Why?. Because the last 2-decades of journalists aren't only arrogant, they are fantastically LAZY...You call a local news station or paper with something happening. They want YOU to send them the pictures, write the story, then submit it for FREE! What are they doing?. Usually downloading "canned" news (From the Net OR satellite) to act as filler for their multitude of repetitive newscasts thruout the day.
Unless something just "falls into their laps", the so-called "newspeople" are going to go hunt anything down themselves. Sometimes, it's the station management that is too CHEAP to actually pay the gas to go drive to a story. I witnessed a utility pole falling and blocking a section of a street next to the mighty University of SC. It just fell on it's own from rot. Called Channel 10 on my cell (this thing was blocking the road/narily missing a car)..It was a Sunday morning I called. GOt a dude in Master Control. He not only 1)Didn't have a newscrew OR even a free-lancer available, he 2)Wasn't going to call one even though the story was only 5 BLOCKS from the station's backdoor and the real kicker 4)He admitted his management didn't want to piss-off either the power company (who's pole it was) OR putting USC in a "bad light". In other words, PROTECT the Status Quo!. I told him in disgust that it was too BAD no one got KILLED by the pole so WIS would get off their dead-asses to cover it.
I called the three other stations and NONE of them would dispatch. I finally got intouch with a couple of online publications however. They got a pix of it, wrote the story, AND added the obvious question "How many MORE utility poles are unsafe SCE&G??? (This was tied in with the fact South Carolina Electric and Gas had charged ratepayers extra to hire a company just to inspect ALL poles in the SC Midlands nary 10 months before)..
TO get a Journalism Degree now is like the old General Studies program alot of colleges had. It's for those too lazy, undisciplined, and/or STUPID to go into business or even teaching!..ESPECIALLY if you're a hot-looking Bimbo who's only asset IS her looks. But it's the way of life. When an individual or business starts just "phoning it in" (going thru the motions), there forms a vacumn someone else finds an opportunity..
Right on BLOGGER!!!!..Keep up the spirit of Ben Franklin and Thomas Paine..The PEN/Keyboard IS mightier than the sword!
Re: Parents portrayed as stupid/Kids portrayed as "smart"
I dispise all commercials that try to sell a gadget by deriding someone. Hollywood has for decades pushed the idea that "Kids Smart/Parents Dumb". NO, Kids are Idiots and too often the Parents are too. How?. By the parents acting childishly.
A few shows get it right though. Forget some of their names, but one in particular had this 15 year old "know-it-all" who would pull a stunt, and wind-up getting busted/making a mess out of things. Back in my time, we had "The Uncle Arthur Stories for Children" and "David and Goliath" clay-mation that showed what happens when children are left to their own devices. You don't have to be particularily religious to believe "A Child left unto him/herself will only bring shame"(upon the household). Anyway, kids will always try to "take the easy way out", cut corners, be inheritantly lazy (basically wanting the same attention as babies BUT let do whatever THEY want WHENEVER they want with ZERO consequences). That's why you have so many adults on welfare today. A personal crisis that has become a national disastor.
What has this to do with Facebook/MySpace, you might add?. If the kids are afraid of their parents coming on there, then they the children/adolescents are only trying to HIDE what they INHERENTLY know is "wrong". Nuff'. They know they shouldn't be saying/doing it and don't want Mom/Dad finding out about it.
Be the Parent.
Re: Here HERE Anon Coward!
Exactly!. The little kids need to PLAY, the older one's need to do chores, do their homework, then join the family to watch tv. The result makes for a responsible, unselfish, well-rounded socially ADULT. It reminds me of a story where a father got so tired of seeing his sons "slouching" on the floor (remember that term "slouching"), he took the game controlers away from them and handed each a rake and said "Go to it". He made them work. They whined. He added to the work.
It didn't take long for them to 1)Help out without being asked much less nagged 2)They got in shape physically
I heard something about tweenies mentioned here. While doing school bus driving about 9 years ago, I had this one 11 year old girl tell me that "I had to show HER respect before she gave me any"...I told her she hadn't "earned the right to breathe the same air as I did"...That she was a "CHILD"
She stormed-off pitching a tantrum. This was on a Friday. Monday morning 7am, Mom escorts same child to bus stop. Thinking "Ut Oh", I was suprised to have Mom tell me "My Daughter has something to tell you sir". Mom made the tweenie 1)Apologize not only to ME but the ENTIRE bus (of other kids) 2)Asked that I have her sit up front across from me. After overcomeing being overwhelmed, I thanked them both and from them on had nary a problem on that route the rest of the semester.
Just ONE parent commited that ONE SIMPLE (loving) Act and ALL those kids were effected by it.
Grow up ya'll and BE the parent.
Re: Heh BOB V.
I agree wtih you about the half-life, if that long, of anything "cool" but isn't that the crux of everything that is trendy?. Personally, I know, not just believe, the problems with society in general has been the elevation of triviality, shallowness, and superficiality. In other words "it's ALL about ME". OR the Epitomy of down-right "Selfishness". Isn't the real problem with teens is that we adults permit this because we're afraid to say "No"?
AND as far as not following your teens around in the Mall, why not?. Alot of mall's have kicked unescorted teens out because quite frankly, they're like Chris B said and I'll add. "Idiots until they PROVE otherwise". The proof of such is that
1)They become self-motivated to get up and do what they should without me nagging.
2)That they don't lie, cheat, steal.
3)That they NEVER, EVER, sneak around. I hate "sneakiness" worse than up-front defiance.
4)They WILL show respect to all persons, especially those in authority while learning how being responsible leads to the purest form of true freedom.
5)That they are engrained with the need to be SELF-LESS/Serve others in need. Instead of walking around the Mall WASTING Precious time and becoming a pest, why don't they go to a rest home and visit someone who is lonely?.Volunteer time with the Red Cross..Heck, I can think of alot of so-called adults who could drop the tennis and yoga classes and burn calories helping a neighbor in need clean their yard instead.
NO, we ALL think we're "owed" some sort of special treatment just for existing instead of realizing the pinnacle of human accomplishment is to think of other's first and foremost before oneself. You don't have to be the next Mother Theresa, but there's always someone deserving down on their luck.
Follow your kids Bob V. They might not want it. But they NEED it.
Re: It was uncool before you parents joined
You got it!. WHO really cares?. It's all lazy-minded "drivel" telling us "these people have TOO much time on their hands". WHICH reminds me, my 55 year old self needs to do an oil change on the Toyota right now.
Re: Re: The Arbiter
SO, insisting that his kid's have limits make them a loser in your eye's eh?. NO, you're the one that perhaps needs to
1)Shut off the computer
2)Go outside
3)DO sometning constructive
4)Grow up
5)Read Chris B's post about kids being idiots however I would say I'd add "ignoring what I said" to the list of "how I'll react" if they decide to try me. I personally don't need the creep with the mustache selling books to tell me how to "stop backtalking, disrespect, upheaval" from MY teens.
BTW, prior to the 1950's, there was little of this tripe of letting adolecents "find themselves" or having their "own space". Dr.Benjamin Spock, the avowed Communist urged parents to just let kids have their way, to pitch tantrums,e tc. It was all "healthy". You see where it got us?.
Re: This thread is lame
Heh, you're to be applauded. FINALLY a parent who has the courage and TRUE LOVE to be one. SO many parents haven't matured enough to accept the responsibility of yea, I have to be the Blue Meanie. Kid's need and actually crave limits and you have to be very clear. It's the parent's role to guide their offspring to tell the truth, to not beat around the bush, to not be lazy, and most importantly to punish them immeadiately when the kid is being "sneaky". Otherwise, they will undoubtedly turn out to be unscrupulous, amoral adults whose life AND the live's of their offspring will become a miserable mess.
AN idle mind IS the Devil's Workshop. In fact, they'd be a whole lot LESS problems if parent's insisted on keeping their teenager's BUSY with the task of becoming A PRODUCTIVE MEMBER of SOCIETY, IE, a REAL ADULT, rather than perpetuating the current notion of childhood through college past the age of 30.
Plus, like you said, until a kid reaches 18, you basically own 'em. When they're on-their-own, you just hope and pray for the best.
Re: I felt that way, but changed my mind
Good for you. You're not only growing up, you're growing wiser too. You're probably not a sneak either. AND in conclusion, you're finding out there's more to life than sitting all day typing inane lol's.
Re: the problem is ~customer service~
You got it and let me add a note from a friend of mine who IS a United Senior Pilot (Don made something of himself while I languish with my USC degree BUT I digress).
He has had to LEAVE the cockpit at O'Hare and SHOW the baggage handlers how you do weights and balance. He was written UP and all flight crews embarking from O'Hare to not "harrass OR "unfairly criticize" the baggage handlers/ground crew in their jobs"..Don told them he, the passengers, and the AIRCRAFT's SAFETY was more important than some DAMN "Quota Employee's FEEEEE-lings". The Pilot's Union agreed. However, if you want to see a nightmare, go to Columbia, SC's airport and try to send a package via United. You have never in YOUR LIFE seen a bunch of freakish, neophytes all of which are infected with an incredibly acute case of the "What'eva" attitude. You might also be waiting to receive a life-saving piece of equipment, like a portable dialysis machine. You have all the information, the flight times, the bill of lading BUT you find out "it's not on that flight". When you ask "Where is it?". They don't know and they quite frankly do not CARE!.
More than the guy's guitar and how United acted contemptuously about it, shouldn't United, in a post-911 world be for F'n concerned about S-A-F-E-T-Y!!!!..
These airlines should be fined, HELL rise-up and put a few of them out of business with ZERO hope of a gov't safety-net bailout. AND, strip away the invisible protection of the CORPORATION and go after the men and women AT-THE-TOP and hold them civily and CRIMINALLY negligent.
This was just a guitar, will tommorow be 300 people?.
Time to use the BIG F-word toward the Management Club attitude that permeats Corp America these days. F-O-R-C-E them to make the Customer Number 1 again because even when the customer is sometimes wrong, the Customer is ALWAYS RIGHT. Anyone can go down the street and be treated like Shat. I want to see companies EXCEED my expectations once again. To make them worthy of my business.