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  • Jan 20th, 2011 @ 9:53am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: counterfeiting and law suits.

    Things get seized and people get arrested all the time, and before there's a trial on the merits. It doesn't violate due process necessarily.

    They have to be charged with a crime, and ownership of seized property is not automatically transferred to the state. The owners of the seized domain names have not been charged or even contacted by ICE, and have no opportunity to respond to the seizure. They have been afforded no opportunity to participate in the process at all, due or otherwise.

  • Jan 19th, 2011 @ 10:47pm

    Re: counterfeiting and law suits.

    Hi Jim, I think it's great that someone representing companies from that list took the time to respond to this article, and is willing to listen to his critics. What everyone here sees in COICA and the domain seizures is that it is the ongoing attempt to 'black list' us and the sites we choose to visit, rather than the sites and crimes it claims to target. Nobody likes being blacklisted, not me and not you.

    D'Addario makes some great strings, and when I've bought them I did so from merchants I trust. I think this is somewhat common behavior, no one wants to buy inferior counterfeit products. Your customers are on your side; they don't want to buy fake merchandise either, they want to buy your merchandise. The gist of the letter to me though is that I am being lumped in with the counterfeiters. It treats me with disrespect, and so undermines my respect for its signatories.

  • Jan 19th, 2011 @ 9:49pm

    Re: Rebuttal Letter

    Nicely done, I'm surprised there are no replies yet. I think this is a great approach, to respond to the "United Front" with another, contrary one.
    But this needs to be carried all the way through: get signatories and send the letter to the same people who got the first one. Facebook is probably a good place for it; set up a "page", collect signatures, and then ship it off on the specified date/time. If you'd like to collaborate on this, stellarwaif, my email is toby dot fernsler at gmail.

  • Jan 19th, 2011 @ 9:31pm

    Re: Re: Re: counterfeiting and law suits.

    I think we all agree that there should be due process. The issue is whether or not the seizures violate due process.
    What is your definition of due process? Mine is that the accused gets to defend themselves before they are punished.