Vote . run for office.
Political Power ( i.e. civil rights of voting)
unused , is power abused.
great post AC .
Good understanding of Constitutional law.
The Pirates will mis-understand as usual
YOU : They play their games, we play ours.
Me : except your games are immoral & illegal
IF the creating Artist puts their creation into CC , that is their "right to do" OR "not to do" -- and the Artist can change their mind at will on CC.
pretty simple.
I think the Secret Service will be calling on you.
MIKE : "Which part of "Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech" does this court not understand? "
Me : free speech is not absolute.
i.e.:
* Yelling "fire" in a movie theater .
* Liable
* UN-Truth in Political advertising . ( debatable , to what extent)
* Jokes about bombs in Airports and "public arenas" .
* threatening POTUS w/ violence.
* Stealing Copyrighted works outside of "Fair Use".
All very limited speech.
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MIKE : [C]opyright law "addresses a substantial or important governmental interest." This is, plainly speaking, ridiculous. The argument effectively says that the government can violate the basic principles of the First Amendment any time it wants, so long as it shows a "substantial or important government interest." But that makes no sense.
ME : Only to a Pirate does this not make sense.
Mike you live in the Dark Side.
The Copyright Jedis will get you --
in court EVERY TIME.
MIKE : The question -- the ONLY question -- is whether or not it actually creates incentive to create.
Me : WRONG !
The only question is the law !!, And how to make sure all follow it -- to protect fully the "ARTISTs Rights" -- copyrights -- of use of their work.
Economics is meaningless when talking ART .
Copyrights is all about "Artist control" of their IP.
YOU :Consumers are not "responsible" to "creators" or publishers one iota.
ME : True. you do not want . don't buy it
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YOU :Should the work be overpriced, simply awful or whatever I'm under no obligation to acquire it.
Me : True.
But to "acquire it"
w/o paying ,
or beyond legal
"fair use"----
that is Piracy .
And that is illegal
MIKE :"Nice, but inaccurate dig. First of all, our business model is not eyeball based. Sure, we have some ads, but that represents a small part of the business model. "
Me : Maybe is you upped the "level of discourse" here with respected "academic moderation" of comments-
-- then maybe ; "we have some ads, but that represents a small part of the business model. " ;
Will THEN change to big bucks from lexus , black label , and fine watches.
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Maybe goats will fly too.
CR :"There's your "new model." Of course, you need contrarian voices on here now and again to create controversy, inspire comments and draw eyeballs for your verizon/AmEx sugar daddies."
Me : right on!
http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/beatles-cover-songs-0621/
FREE VIDEO : Beatles Doing Others: 10 Cover Songs that Shaped the Fab Four’s Music
Enjoy .
[ this is really cool stuff. hot tracks. best band ever.]
The Beatles want you too have some fun FOR FREE.
SL : "The economics of having millions of people making their own art will change the saleability [cor. sp] of creativity, but as a culture we will likely be better for it."
Me : exactly 100% plus
$$$ who cares.
Control of use .
who. when. where. how. why.
As long as i have full artistic control
i is cool.
Full Copyrights for Art.
It is not just a good idea.
It is the bedrock of our Constitutional Economic System for Artists.
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patents on drugs and cellphones ?
it is a different horse.
not my thing.
ERROL MORRIS: Knowing what you don’t know? Is this supposedly the hallmark of an intelligent person?
DAVID DUNNING: That’s absolutely right. It’s knowing that there are things you don’t know that you don’t know. [4]
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/the-anosognosics-dilemma-1/?src=me&ref=general
either way it is un-realistic and out of touch terminology .
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Copyright now , copyrights stronger ,, copyright 4ever.
( it is in the U.S, Constitution. Look it up)
ME :the only important post -- by SL here ---in this otherwise boring thread ,
on a non-issue,,
that Mike invented,,
because Mike is,,
Untalented, the Untrained, the Lazy,
and AMONG Those
with "TOO MUCH
Time to Kill"-- ie. techdirt.
"Untalented, the Untrained, the Lazy, and Those with TOO MUCH Time to Kill" describes techdirt posters perfectly.
[ except of course me & you , SL . :) ]
Jay , just say you disagree with me . Period.
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It is not just Mike towards me , but SL too.
Suzanne L. is a music pro ,, being doing this before mike could even write, speak or was born for that matter.
( sorry SL, but you were on earth and a young women when the Beatles made it first big -- as you have written elsewhere on other websites,, just want the children to show a little well deserved respect towards you )
The words and accusations Mike wrote towards SL are gross.
Calling her "ridiculous"
Suzzanne L. is an "established academic of" &" professional in" the Music Industry.
She eats off of writing an these issues.
Mike's attitude toward SL is quite very immature.
He should be ashamed.
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If he had a boss -- he would get fired.
And that is the problem.
Mike feels is is answerable to no one on copyright.
Not Me. Not SL ,
and most of all not fact .
and law &
human history
Honestly , that is a very sick way to debate.
YOU ::"Amanda Palmer, who celebrated her release from Roadrunner with a free track, amongst many other free tracks?"
ME : EXACTLY MY POINT !!!
10x over !
Ms. Palmer -- a musical genius 100% plus -- was EXERCISING her FULL RIGHTs of ARTISTIC Control , in telling her label to bug off. ( right on Amanda !!)
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In my " perfect world", ARTISTS would be given the RIGHT to negate ANY contract on use or sale of their MUSIC --- at will.
Many musicians if empowered enough -- Modonna -- write their own contract,, and the labels just have to bid. [ soon ,,mom :) ]
Re: Re: The question -- the ONLY question -- is whether or not it actually creates incentive to create.
except SCOTUS agrees with me .