Actually, what this actually shows is the level of understanding of the top brass that decided to do a move like this to begin with.
Probably some top ranking General, with a very limited understanding of (social)media and the internet as a whole had a wild hair up his butt.
There is no such thing as a media blackout anymore, not unless they take the entire internet offline and ISP's start blocking sites.
It's not really anything new that the top brass is doing. Incompetence or self-perpetuated ignorance like this is usually only an act of "show of force or power" that serves absolutely no one, except the brass' (false) sense of security.
The ultimate problem is that the game industry is taking away any type of ownership what-so-ever.
Ever read the Steam Subscriber Agreement? You don't even own a friggin' license anymore when you use Steam. All you own is access to whatever you purchased access to. You have effectively LEASED your game.
If you stop using Steam, you cannot play your games anymore. THAT... is BULLSHIT. Period.
The service that did it right was Direct2Drive. You downloaded their installer, it downloaded the game to a temp folder, and you could REINSTALL WITHOUT CONTACT D2D!!!! Since then the service was bought by Gamefly... so sad to see Direct2Drive go. They had great support. Would reimburse you if you had problems and if there was something wrong, would even give you games. In my case I received Medieval Total War 2 Kingdoms for free from them and when I had problems with the original Witcher they gave me the Enhanced version for free.
Try getting that type of service from Valve. Valve and Gabe Newell as a whole don't give a shit about gamers, they care about how much money they can make. The fact that you lose access to ALL games when you don't want to use their service (just as Origin and uPlay do now) is totally and utterly reprehensible.
I hate what the gaming industry has become. Big corps, such as Valve, just take advantage of the gaming community and they lock you into using their service, because if you move away from it... guess what... You've lost access to over $3000 in games. That to me is illegal. :(
Very easy... because most US Citizens don't give a shit about elections or doing their research about who it is they're electing.
Hell, most senators and representatives don't read a fucking thing on a bill that is about to be passed. The rider bills that get snuck in, a lot of times have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with what the main bill is about. Yet, because it's "a part of the package" that was approved, shit like the Monsanto Protection Act happen or things like a Inmate Re-entry program gets whittled down to nothing, only to realize that they should have read the amendments to see what was actually getting cut, which was over 80% of the bill.
The entire judicial and elective process in the US is friggin' hosed, why? Because the people that are in power themselves don't give a fuck less about Joe Blow on the street. That's why. They're just there for a friggin' paycheck and it's absolutely a sad affair to see the US Government go down the drain the way it is going.
The whole reason the US of A was founded are the precise reasons it's closing off its citizens now; which goes against everything the American Constitution stands for. Freedom from oppressive governments and regimes.
Other than running a good AV product and running under USER credentials... not much. Even what I suggested isn't 100% fool-proof and probably would only catch known exploits such as the script-kiddy type stuff.
First link on Google... how does this not apply????
Computer Fraud and Abuse Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Fraud_and_Abuse_ActShareThe Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1984 (CFAA) was intended to reduce cracking of computer systems and to address federal computer-related offenses.
You pretty much hit the nail on the head. Seems like so many people out there think what he did was correct. What a skewed sense of entitlement people have nowadays. Rather sad...
Actually... there is not. By installing the game you are signing a EULA, or End User License Agreement. This EULA has an Anti-Class Action clause. However, as a signatory of that EULA you are more than able to arbitrate on THEIR terms, against THEIR lawyers, at a place and time of THEIR choosing on YOUR DIME.
Awesome how people really don't give a crap anymore and just take this BS without any problems...
I'm sorry... but what the article was talking about, with the redditor stating:
I figured from everything I'd read that the always-on part of the game simply required an internet connection, not a slot on a server like I'm about to PvP or something. I'd be more understanding if I could just play my private region by myself like I intended.
is NOTHING NEW.
This was discussed long ago when first rumors of a persistent internet connection requirement were mentioned.
I don't mean to invalidate that this is an issue, it is a major problem, but definitely shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone that's followed the previews of SimCity.
So, whoever touted how awesome this was going to be, welcome to reality. This is precisely where all the people that are OK with this type of scheme, are allowing the industry to take OUR PROPERTY... our licenses. OUR ability to dictate when and where we can play OUR purchased property.
Sorry... but I saw this coming from miles away and is no surprise.
I for one, will not be supporting EA/Maxis in this endeavor... stupid move that'll kill a great franchise.
Except when you have a case of a 20 y/o that runs through an elementary school/kindergarten and shoots up 26 human beings, and was later found to have a disease that makes it impossible for him to sense pain... no emotional trauma there at all, right?
When will people make up their minds...? Do we want people to be checked or not? Someone with a vendetta couldn't have possibly told the 12 y/o to handle possible explosives, right?
Quit proselytizing. and get a write a real article. No wonder TD is a useless news service full of a**ho... I mean opinions.
Considering that the techdirt article actually listed no sources and was rather opinionated I'm thinking Merkel is pretty much dead on, if one refers to print media being more articulate and actual journalism.
The Techdirt article author mentions that print and digital media are identical. This is usually far from the truth as reputable publications such as Reuters, NBC or Times sometimes have drastically different digital articles than their print media and a lot of times the quality of work is drastically lower, i.e. grammatical and spelling errors, than the print media.
Considering the fact that FOBs should really be de facto standard nowadays AND that Blizzard should provide them instead of charging customers, I don't consider this lawsuit so frivolous.
#1 Fobs would be the one way to make sure people actually BUY their game.
#2 Fobs are a great way to authenticate. Businesses have done it with certain software for a long time now.
Because not ALL people own a smartphone that has internet connectivity or rather even own a smartphone, means THOSE people are inconvenienced by "purchasing" their protection. THAT is against the law. This means another product has to be purchased to use something a provider has already agreed full access to upon purchase. Just because they add a clause that says "we can change the rules at any time" doesn't mean it's right. Sure it's 6.50 or whatever... what's next? Your next $80 special edition doesn't come with all items promised and you have to dish out another $20 to get the rest?
Think about it people... it's entertainment publishers and developers taking consumers for a ride once again, seeing how far they can push the envelope... when is enough, enough?
Finally someone that has some reading comprehension. All those others about "why didn't you get up and leave..." Seriously? Do you people know how to read and comprehend what you've just read...? The fact that there was nothing usable for the final presentation by Crime, inc. whatever (don't watch any news media anymore... pointless) is proof enough of Mike's balls and sticking to the truth.
That may be true... but they may get on with their lives without a job, without documentation to back up legal issues, it could be the end of a corporation to have an entire network fail, i.e. network intrusion and a data breach/wipe.
That's about the most ignorant comment ever... the added stress and financial burden a massive failure puts on an organization is not just a simple "meh... we'll deal."
I believe that the Walt Disney company wanted to make that statement less about copyright infringement, more so about the fact that:
1. So it doesn't get inundated by requests for the REAL Disney company to put on the same show that was put on in Korea.
2. So Disney is not recognized as supporting a Dictatorship that has its populace rotting in poverty and hunger.
You forget your boss at your job pays your salary. You break your boss' rules, you lose your job right? It's not up to you to decide what rule is right and wrong. Would be hella convenient wouldn't it... I'll just decide to stop paying taxes. I'm supposed to pay... but hell. I'll just stop doing that. I'll just start driving 120mph on the highway... no problem right? No one gets hurt by it? They Autobahn in Germany has unrestricted speed limits for the most parts (barring near cities). Dumb rule... I just won't follow it.
uuuhhh....
Can someone please explain to me what a "Powerful Hypocracy" is?
Incompetence and ignorance
Actually, what this actually shows is the level of understanding of the top brass that decided to do a move like this to begin with.
Probably some top ranking General, with a very limited understanding of (social)media and the internet as a whole had a wild hair up his butt.
There is no such thing as a media blackout anymore, not unless they take the entire internet offline and ISP's start blocking sites.
It's not really anything new that the top brass is doing. Incompetence or self-perpetuated ignorance like this is usually only an act of "show of force or power" that serves absolutely no one, except the brass' (false) sense of security.
Game Licenses
The ultimate problem is that the game industry is taking away any type of ownership what-so-ever.
Ever read the Steam Subscriber Agreement? You don't even own a friggin' license anymore when you use Steam. All you own is access to whatever you purchased access to. You have effectively LEASED your game.
If you stop using Steam, you cannot play your games anymore. THAT... is BULLSHIT. Period.
The service that did it right was Direct2Drive. You downloaded their installer, it downloaded the game to a temp folder, and you could REINSTALL WITHOUT CONTACT D2D!!!! Since then the service was bought by Gamefly... so sad to see Direct2Drive go. They had great support. Would reimburse you if you had problems and if there was something wrong, would even give you games. In my case I received Medieval Total War 2 Kingdoms for free from them and when I had problems with the original Witcher they gave me the Enhanced version for free.
Try getting that type of service from Valve. Valve and Gabe Newell as a whole don't give a shit about gamers, they care about how much money they can make. The fact that you lose access to ALL games when you don't want to use their service (just as Origin and uPlay do now) is totally and utterly reprehensible.
I hate what the gaming industry has become. Big corps, such as Valve, just take advantage of the gaming community and they lock you into using their service, because if you move away from it... guess what... You've lost access to over $3000 in games. That to me is illegal. :(
Why do we elect people like this?
Very easy... because most US Citizens don't give a shit about elections or doing their research about who it is they're electing.
Hell, most senators and representatives don't read a fucking thing on a bill that is about to be passed. The rider bills that get snuck in, a lot of times have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with what the main bill is about. Yet, because it's "a part of the package" that was approved, shit like the Monsanto Protection Act happen or things like a Inmate Re-entry program gets whittled down to nothing, only to realize that they should have read the amendments to see what was actually getting cut, which was over 80% of the bill.
The entire judicial and elective process in the US is friggin' hosed, why? Because the people that are in power themselves don't give a fuck less about Joe Blow on the street. That's why. They're just there for a friggin' paycheck and it's absolutely a sad affair to see the US Government go down the drain the way it is going.
The whole reason the US of A was founded are the precise reasons it's closing off its citizens now; which goes against everything the American Constitution stands for. Freedom from oppressive governments and regimes.
Re: Re: I saw this presented live at Black Hat
Other than running a good AV product and running under USER credentials... not much. Even what I suggested isn't 100% fool-proof and probably would only catch known exploits such as the script-kiddy type stuff.
Re: Re: Uuuuhh...
First link on Google... how does this not apply????
Computer Fraud and Abuse Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Fraud_and_Abuse_ActShareThe Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1984 (CFAA) was intended to reduce cracking of computer systems and to address federal computer-related offenses.
Re: Dead on
You pretty much hit the nail on the head. Seems like so many people out there think what he did was correct. What a skewed sense of entitlement people have nowadays. Rather sad...
One major problem
He was a dumbass for going to the public first. That is his own fault. Bravo for finding the flaw, but dumbass followup method.
Re: Forget Cracks
Not going to happen unless hacker/crackers figure out the back-end of SimCity.
Re: Re: Re: Refunds
Actually... there is not. By installing the game you are signing a EULA, or End User License Agreement. This EULA has an Anti-Class Action clause. However, as a signatory of that EULA you are more than able to arbitrate on THEIR terms, against THEIR lawyers, at a place and time of THEIR choosing on YOUR DIME.
Awesome how people really don't give a crap anymore and just take this BS without any problems...
No new news here?
I'm sorry... but what the article was talking about, with the redditor stating:
is NOTHING NEW.
This was discussed long ago when first rumors of a persistent internet connection requirement were mentioned.
I don't mean to invalidate that this is an issue, it is a major problem, but definitely shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone that's followed the previews of SimCity.
So, whoever touted how awesome this was going to be, welcome to reality. This is precisely where all the people that are OK with this type of scheme, are allowing the industry to take OUR PROPERTY... our licenses. OUR ability to dictate when and where we can play OUR purchased property.
Sorry... but I saw this coming from miles away and is no surprise.
I for one, will not be supporting EA/Maxis in this endeavor... stupid move that'll kill a great franchise.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't
Except when you have a case of a 20 y/o that runs through an elementary school/kindergarten and shoots up 26 human beings, and was later found to have a disease that makes it impossible for him to sense pain... no emotional trauma there at all, right?
When will people make up their minds...? Do we want people to be checked or not? Someone with a vendetta couldn't have possibly told the 12 y/o to handle possible explosives, right?
Quit proselytizing. and get a write a real article. No wonder TD is a useless news service full of a**ho... I mean opinions.
Worthless techdirt article
Considering that the techdirt article actually listed no sources and was rather opinionated I'm thinking Merkel is pretty much dead on, if one refers to print media being more articulate and actual journalism.
The Techdirt article author mentions that print and digital media are identical. This is usually far from the truth as reputable publications such as Reuters, NBC or Times sometimes have drastically different digital articles than their print media and a lot of times the quality of work is drastically lower, i.e. grammatical and spelling errors, than the print media.
Not such a dumb lawsuit
Considering the fact that FOBs should really be de facto standard nowadays AND that Blizzard should provide them instead of charging customers, I don't consider this lawsuit so frivolous.
#1 Fobs would be the one way to make sure people actually BUY their game.
#2 Fobs are a great way to authenticate. Businesses have done it with certain software for a long time now.
Because not ALL people own a smartphone that has internet connectivity or rather even own a smartphone, means THOSE people are inconvenienced by "purchasing" their protection. THAT is against the law. This means another product has to be purchased to use something a provider has already agreed full access to upon purchase. Just because they add a clause that says "we can change the rules at any time" doesn't mean it's right. Sure it's 6.50 or whatever... what's next? Your next $80 special edition doesn't come with all items promised and you have to dish out another $20 to get the rest?
Think about it people... it's entertainment publishers and developers taking consumers for a ride once again, seeing how far they can push the envelope... when is enough, enough?
Absolutely!
Finally someone that has some reading comprehension. All those others about "why didn't you get up and leave..." Seriously? Do you people know how to read and comprehend what you've just read...? The fact that there was nothing usable for the final presentation by Crime, inc. whatever (don't watch any news media anymore... pointless) is proof enough of Mike's balls and sticking to the truth.
How wrong...
"and people get on with their lives."
That may be true... but they may get on with their lives without a job, without documentation to back up legal issues, it could be the end of a corporation to have an entire network fail, i.e. network intrusion and a data breach/wipe.
That's about the most ignorant comment ever... the added stress and financial burden a massive failure puts on an organization is not just a simple "meh... we'll deal."
Re: Re: Re: The Problem
HAHAHAHA Awesome!!!
We Todd Did...
I believe that the Walt Disney company wanted to make that statement less about copyright infringement, more so about the fact that:
1. So it doesn't get inundated by requests for the REAL Disney company to put on the same show that was put on in Korea.
2. So Disney is not recognized as supporting a Dictatorship that has its populace rotting in poverty and hunger.
Poor choice of words by Disney... yes.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
Because we're in a recession and people can't afford to fly as much as the used to and fuel costs only getting steeper? Duh?
Re: Re: distraction
You forget your boss at your job pays your salary. You break your boss' rules, you lose your job right? It's not up to you to decide what rule is right and wrong. Would be hella convenient wouldn't it... I'll just decide to stop paying taxes. I'm supposed to pay... but hell. I'll just stop doing that. I'll just start driving 120mph on the highway... no problem right? No one gets hurt by it? They Autobahn in Germany has unrestricted speed limits for the most parts (barring near cities). Dumb rule... I just won't follow it.