Further Thoughts On Moderation v. Discretion v. Censorship
from the playing-semantics dept
Welcome back to Techdirt's favorite faux game show, Playing Semantics! This week, we're diving back into the semantics of moderation, discretion, and censorship. As a reminder, this bit is what we were arguing about last time:
Moderation is a platform operator saying "we don't do that here." Discretion is you saying "I won't do that there." Censorship is someone saying "you can't do that anywhere" before or after threats of either violence or government intervention.
Now, if we're all caught up, let's get back into the game!
A Few Nits to Pick
In my prior column, I overlooked a couple of things that I shouldn't have. I'll go over them here to help everyone get on the same page as me.
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anywhere — In re: "you can't do that anywhere", this refers to the confines of a given authority or government. It also refers to the Internet in general. Censors work to suppress speech where it matters the most (e.g., within a given country). Such censors often carry the authority necessary to censor (e.g., they work in the government).
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violence — "Violence" refers to physical violence. I hope I don't have to explain how someone threatening to harm a journalist is a form of censorship.
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government — This refers to any branch of any level of government within a given country. And anyone who uses the legal system in an attempt to suppress speech becomes a censor as well. (That person need not be an agent of the government, either.)
From here on out, I'll be addressing specific comments — some of which I replied to, some of which I didn't.
One such comment brought up the idea of a headmaster as a censor. Lexico defines "headmaster" as "(especially in private schools) the man in charge of a school." We can assume a headmaster is the highest authority of the school.
In a reply to that comment, I said the following:
If the headmaster is a government employee, they're a censor. If they're the head of a private institution, they're a "censor" in a merely colloquial sense. The privately owned and operated Liberty University (henceforth Liberty U), for example, has engaged in what I'd normally call "moderation" vis-á-vis its campus newspaper — which, despite it being a frankly immoral and unethical decision, Liberty U has every right to do as a private institution. (Frankly, I'd be tempted to call such people censors outright, but that would kinda go against my whole bit.)
But the example I used gave me pause to reconsider. Jerry Falwell Jr. (the "headmaster" of Liberty U) and free speech have often come to metaphorical blows. I noted this through a link to an article from the blog Friendly Atheist. The article has a quote from a former editor for Liberty U's school newspaper, who describes how Falwell's regime ran the paper:
[W]e encountered an "oversight" system — read: a censorship regime — that required us to send every story to Falwell's assistant for review. Any administrator or professor who appeared in an article had editing authority over any part of the article; they added and deleted whatever they wanted.
That raises the important question: Is that censorship or editorial discretion?
After reading the Washington Post article from which that quote comes, I would refer to this as censorship. I'll get into the why of my thinking on that soon enough. But suffice to say, "editorial discretion" doesn't often involve editors threatening writers with lawsuits or violence.
But though I call that censorship, some people might call it "moderation" or "editorial discretion". Falwell is, after all, exercising his right of association on his private property. What makes that "censorship" are the at-least-veiled threats against "dissenters".
Censorship Via Threats
Speaking of threats! Another comment took issue with how I defined censorship:
Why should it be "censorship" to threaten someone with a small financial loss (enforced by a court), but not to kick them off the platform they use to make the bulk of their income (independent of the government)? Is "you can speak on some other platform" fundamentally less offensive than "you can speak from another country", or is that merely a side-effect of the difficulty of physical movement?
To answer this as briefly as I can: A person can find a new platform with relative ease and little-to-no cost. No one can say the same for finding their way out of a lawsuit.
But that raises another important question: Does any kind of threat of personal or financial ruin count as censorship?
As I said above, the Liberty U example counts as censorship. As for the why? The following quotes from that WaPo article should help explain:
Student journalists must now sign a nondisclosure agreement that forbids them from talking publicly about "editorial or managerial direction, oversight decisions or information designated as privileged or confidential." … Faculty, staff and students on the Lynchburg, Va., campus have learned that it's a sin to challenge the sacrosanct status of the school or its leaders, who mete out punishments for dissenting opinions (from stripping people of their positions to banning them from the school).
School leaders don't have the power of government to back their decisions. But they can still use their power and authority to coerce other people into silence. ("Stop writing stories like this or I'll kick you out of this school and then what will you do.") Even if someone can move to another platform and speak, a looming threat could stop them from wanting to do that.
And the threat need not be one of financial or personal ruin. Someone who holds a journalist at knife point and says "shut up about the president or else" is a censor. The violent person doesn't need government power; their knife and the fear it can cause are all they need.
Money and Speech
A comment I made about companies such as Mastercard and Visa elicited a reply that pointed out how they, too, are complicit in censorship:
I cited Visa and Mastercard specifically because they are at the top of the chain and it's effectively impossible to create a competitor. If they say something's not allowed it isn't unless you want to lose funding. Paypal has been notoriously bad about banning people for innocuous speech over the years, but there are other downstream providers that aren't Paypal (although if all of them throw someone off, it still erases the speech). I am of the opinion that high-level banks should be held to neutrality standards like ISPs should due to their position of power. Competitors would be preferable, but the lack of either is frightening.
They make a good point. Companies like Visa can legally refuse to do business with, say, an adult film studio. So can banks. This becomes censorship when all such companies cut off access to their services. An artist who creates and sells adult art can end up in a bad place if PayPal cuts the artist off from online payments.
As the comment said, creating a competitor to these services is nigh impossible. Get booted from Twitter and you can open a Mastodon for instance; get booted from PayPal and you're fucked. That Sword of Damocles–esque threat of financial ruin could be (and often is) enough to keep some artists from creating adult works.
It's-A Me, Censorship!
Ah, Nintendo and its overzealous need to have a "family-friendly" reputation. Whatever would we do without it~?
Remember when Nintendo of America removed, or otherwise didn't allow objectionable material in their video games until Mortal Kombat came about and there were Congressional hearings and then the ESRB was formed?
Would you call what Nintendo did censorship or moderation? There's an argument for moderation in that it was only within their purview and only on their video game systems, but there's also an argument for censorship in that once the video games went outside of the bounds set by Nintendo of America, they were subpoenaed by the Government with threats of punishment. The ESRB made their censorship/moderations policies moot, but it's an interesting question. What do you think, Stephen?
This example leads to another good question: Do Nintendo, Sony, etc. engage in censorship when they ask a publisher to remove "problematic" material?
Nintendo can allow or deny any game a spot on the Switch library for any reason. If the company had wanted to deny the publication of Mortal Kombat 11 because of the excessive violence, it could've done so without question. To say otherwise would upend the law. But when Nintendo asks publishers to edit out certain content? I'd call that a mix of "editorial discretion" and "moderation".
Nintendo has the right to have its systems associated with specific speech. Any publisher that wants an association with Nintendo must play by Nintendo's rules. Enforcing a "right to publication" would be akin to the government compelling speech. We shouldn't want the law to compel Nintendo into allowing (or refusing!) the publication of Doom Eternal on the Switch. That way lies madness.
Oh, and the ESRB didn't give Nintendo the "right" to allow a blood-filled Mortal Kombat II on the SNES. Nintendo already had that right. Besides, Mortal Kombat II came out on home consoles one week before the official launch of the ESRB. (The first game to receive the "M" rating was the Sega 32X release of DOOM.) The company allowed blood to stay because the Genesis version of the first game — which had a "blood" code — sold better.
That's All, Folks!
And thus ends another episode of Playing Semantics! I'd like to thank everyone at home for playing, and if you have any questions or comments, please offer them below. So until next time(?), remember:
Moderation is a platform/service owner or operator saying "we don't do that here." Personal discretion is an individual telling themselves "I won't do that here." Editorial discretion is an editor saying "we won't print that here," either to themselves or to a writer. Censorship is someone saying "you won't do that anywhere" alongside threats or actions meant to suppress speech.

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Man, the government really will do anything to avoid training cops not to be “on active alert” against “the enemy” out in the “war zone”.
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It probably would…if the IRS had the funding (and thus the staffing) necessary to fully enforce the Johnson Amendment.
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no it isn't
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says the dude who ripped off a model from one of Scott Cawthon’s games
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Good luck surviving the steamroller that is a corporate copyright lawyer.
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please seek professional medical help for your mental illness
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OSHA?
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Can’t it be both?
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They should also be fighting for anything that makes childcare less expensive and improves the foster care/adoption system. Y’know, if they were actually “pro-life” instead of “pro–forced birth”.
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The Texas law doesn’t provide an “alternative” to abortion. It sure as hell doesn’t provide any funding for either programs that help lower abortion rates (e.g., comprehensive sex education, free/affordable contraception) or post-birth childcare programs. All it does is make any abortion after six weeks of pregnancy illegal to perform in the state of Texas.
And a woman owns her body when she alone gets to make the decision about what she does with her body. The Texas law puts that control in the hands of basically everyone but the woman herself…well, after six weeks of pregnancy, anyway.
so what
Yes or no: If you believe all life is sacred regardless of the circumstances of its conception, do you believe a 13-year-old who was impregnated via rape should be forced by law to bear the child of her rapist?
Regulation is fine. (The Swedish model for abortion strikes me as the best possible compromise.) But by and large, anti-choice/anti-abortion advocates don’t want regulation—they want the abolishment of the legal right to abortion in the United States. That would mean more forced births, more back-alley/illegal/unsafe abortions, and God knows how many more maternal deaths from either the births or the abortions.
How many women would have to die from a lack of access to legal abortion before you graciously concede that they should have the absolute right to choose what they can do with their own bodies?
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I hope the fact that I’ve admitted to being a cisgender male multiple times in the past would’ve been your first clue.
And who, exactly, would be on the other side of this violence? Would it be the people filing lawsuits under the bullshit law, or the people who passed that law, or someone else entirely? At what point does enforcement of this law, such as it is, become something that requires violence to counteract? How would you suggest preventing an escalation of violence between pro-choice activists and anti-choice activists?
I’m sympathetic to women in Texas who feel their rights are being attacked. I firmly believe they should have the right to decide whether they want an abortion—and the right to get an abortion if they want one. But I don’t know when I can condone violence as a means of protecting that right. (Yes, “when”, not “if”.) Violence should always be the absolute last resort; even when it is necessary, it is ground upon which we should still tread carefully.
That position doesn’t make me tolerant of intolerance. It makes me someone who doesn’t think violence is the only answer—or should even be the first answer—to intolerance.
Those “misfits” are the ones in charge, and they’re also the kind of people who—as you put it—“won't quit, can't be shamed away, and can't be convinced to back down”. Humiliating them by exposing their hypocrisy won’t work; that would require them to have the capacity for shame. Changing laws won’t work; they’ll either change them back or find ways of getting around those laws. Voting them out of office won’t work; they’ll come back in the next election, win, and take everyone right back to where they started.
Literally the only solution to the problem you yourself posed—how to stop people with no sense of shame or remorse and no capacity for compromise or empathy—seems to be violence. So what form of violence will be necessary to “run[ ]these misfits out of town in tar and feathers en masse”? How many people will this violence need to be inflicted upon before it solves the problem? How much collateral damage will be considered “acceptable”?
I am under no illusions that words alone will stop elected Republicans and their conservative brethren both in and out of office. That said: I fail to see how we can solve the problem you’ve posed without resorting to violence. If you can think of any other non-violent options that might actually work—and aren’t only “vote the bastards out of office” or a variant thereof—now would be a hell of a good time to share them. Otherwise, I only have one more question: When must the “problem-solving” violence begin?
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Bing is only good for using its video search to find porn.
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It was. And it was aimed at me. (Hint: Look at their name.)
They’re mad that I’m apparently not willing to think of violence as anything but an actual last resort for protecting human rights. And they’re right—which is to say I believe violence should be a last resort instead of the first.
I once brought up a saying I read on Tumblr that goes like this: “Violence for violence is the rule of beasts.” I don’t take that saying to mean “violence committed to match violence is inhuman”; I take it to mean “violence committed for its own sake is inhuman”. Violence in defense of self and others, including in defense of bodily autonomy and/or civil rights, is justifiable and even commendable. And I’m willing to condone such violence, albeit situationally. (I’d have to know details and whatnot to personally sign off on it.)
But in regards to the Texas law: I don’t believe violence is the solution to that particular problem…yet. And I would generally like to avoid seeing this country fall into another civil war. But if violence becomes the only way to protect a woman’s right to obtain an abortion if she wants one, I would be willing to condone that violence.
When I was a kid, I was a violent shithead. I know how it feels to want to solve every problem by punching people in the face. But I went a bit too far with that thinking one day; after I got in a lot of trouble for that, I swore not to be that kind of violent shithead again. Violence is not something I’m going to condemn outright—but it also won’t be something I condone as a reflex.
(Unless it’s punching Nazis. That shit always gets a pass from me. Fuck Nazis.)
One of the issues I have with Democrats is that they’re unwilling to metaphorically throw elbows when they’re in office. They’re not willing to go on the offense and pass laws that get shit done—e.g., protecting voting rights, fighting climate change, even legislating abortion rights—then dare Republicans to take it all back when the GOP is in power again. They do just enough to seem like “the good guys” and win elections, but in reality, they’re mostly feckless cowards. And yes, that includes Joe Biden, who could absolutely be ripping into Manchin and Sinema for their refusal to sacrifice the filibuster in the name of getting shit done.
Too many elected Democrats these days still believe in “bipartisanship”—in the idea that Republicans could still be willing to bargain and compromise, to give a little and get a little in return. Those days are done. Democrats who refuse to see that are fools; Democrats who see it but refuse to act on it are cowards.
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I know more than a few people who would probably disagree. (Me being among them.)
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To be fair, people here give me their time and attention on a regular basis, so… 👀
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And to think, some assholes believe getting booted from Twitter for breaking its rules is exactly like being censored by a fascist government.
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That’s not true—they will listen to logic and reason.
It just has to agree with their Nazi worldview first.
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Two things.
Nice dodge.
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Yes or no: Would you force a 13-year-old girl impregnated by rape to bear the child of her rapist?
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lolwut
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