"What do you mean, extradition hearing? Don't we simply tell you who and where, and you arrest them, shut down their business, seize all their property, and hand all of the above over to us, no questions asked? We're the United States (A.K.A. The Law), for crying out loud!"
It's about time for NZ to release all defendants and their property, suspend the case, and tell the DOJ to come back when they're ready to make a case.
This is not the US, and there is no Patriot Act in NZ. You can't simply arrest people, seize property, and hold both indefinitely without council while you attempt to find something you can use to someday make a case that might potentially stand up in court.
Not true. The mission isn't just to destroy MegaUpload, it's to hang, draw, and quarter Kim Dotcom as a terrifying example to other would-be site admins.
Well you can't deny that Google is way smarter than they are.
Some countries simply aren't ready for democracy. It appears the US is one of them.
Lessons learned:
Always, always have an offsite backup for security footage in a country hostile to the US, and keep your hosting bill paid 6 months in advance.
You're that guy who isn't able to laugh at a joke until 5 minutes after the punchline is given, aren't you?
Undoubtedly we can expect the barbarian response from the media industries: when brute force doesn't get the job done, you need to apply more force. More laws! Harsher penalties! Off to prison! Off with their hands! Get out the wheel!
So you are saying what, exactly? I thought you were arguing that the movie industry was in crisis. How exactly does pointing out that the movie industry's revenue is exceeding actual spending power and indeed the rest of the economy help you?
Oh right, you only take into account one half of the data when drawing your conclusions. That is a pretty good way to arrive at such a horribly ignorant position, I must admit.
Minor clarification: by "entire reason Hollywood was created" I am referring to the film industry informally known as "Hollywood". Hollywood the physical location preceded the film industry and had no relation to the above-described events.
This is how it's gone every single time for decades:
1. Non-music/movie people tell music and movie industries good idea.
2. Music and movie industries ridicule the idea and try to outlaw it.
3. 5-10 years later, music and movie industries realize idea actually was good, implement it, and make tons of money.
The only true innovation either industry has done in many decades - something that they weren't mandated to do by external parties - has been coming up with new ways to 1. give paying customers less for their money (DRM), 2. sell the same thing to each customer more times (windows, pay per view, charging for format-shifting, etc.).
Perhaps we should start patenting these ideas and make the music and movie industries pay something for using these ideas they make their fortunes off of. Naaah, history has just shown they'll go somewhere where patent enforcement is weak. That was the entire reason Hollywood was created, after all.
"Revenue was actually down in the US. The US currently lags Europe in terms of piracy enforcement, so it isn't necessarily a surprise that the rest of the world had an increase in revenue."
This must be why internet piracy is so, so much higher outside the US than in, including in Europe. Seriously. Piracy makes up roughly double the proportion of internet traffic there as in the US.
"Stronger piracy enforcement"... massively higher piracy rate... higher movie revenue... Why, it's enough to make a completely clueless shill's head explode!
I think we're passed that point, actually. Supposed democracies/republics have gone from governments of the people and for the people to governments that see themselves as the saviors of an ignorant and corrupt people who cannot be trusted or respected.
It's a sure sign that your society has completely broken down when you liken the entire population of your country to drug dealers.
I wish I shared your optimism.
If 100% democracy (or republic, in this case) is good, 113% must be better, right?
He's got too many sites to patrol. There's no way he could spend the time to actually read a screen of text from each thread he trolls.
Refusing to buy is stealing.
What kind of ridiculous spiel are you spewing? Don't you know the one and only threat the music industry will ever face is piracy? Don't waste our time with your delusional doomsday theories!
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This. I mean, it's not like anything has happened in the last two decades that has forever changed the capacity to distribute information and collaboration on a massive scale, or affected the public's expectation of information availability. Not at all. There's absolutely nothing to see here; just things being how they've always been.