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  Scary Devil Monastery ( profile ), 31 Jan, 2022 @ 02:24am

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  "That in which one wonders about lead exposure in copyright maximalists." I wish that was the case, but no. This is deranged but not delusional. The analogy isn't the victim of lead poisoning too addled to recognize common sense and recent memory. The analogy is that of a spoiled pre-teen whose entire life has been spent realizing that as long as he's willing to scream, whine, cry, and shit on the floor in protest the grown-ups will always end up giving him that lollipop. "Ask them why they have never considered using robots.txt, a simple tiny fix that would keep big evil tech from indexing them." If you assume, from the start, that no one representing copyright has ever moved in anything other than pure and unadulterated grifting then many things become quite clear. They have never considered existing technical solutions because in the end what they want is money for nothing and the advertising for free.

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  Scary Devil Monastery ( profile ), 31 Jan, 2022 @ 12:53am

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  "I will still stand on my soap box and point out, here be a false lord of freedom. One who supports only speech he agrees with. One who defends only what he likes." At which point did you decide that other people's freedom to an audience overruled your right not to listen? Or to be more specific, overrules your personal right to draw a sigh of relief that people only invested ion grifting aren't given a platform by your local mall anymore? Your opinion is literally that we should be ashamed over our opinion. Which is, in itself, fine. But arguing from authority by invoking "freedom of speech" to undercut our freedom of speech is, I believe, what has a lot of commenters here up in arms. And rightly so. Now here's the thing; An argument focused around observable fact - that's a debate.
  An argument focused around assertions in defiance of facts - that's just people beating each other around the ears with their respective agendas. Our assertion here is that OAN doesn't bring a point of view. They bring a false narrative and as such their absence from DirectTV isn't to be lamented anymore than the cancellation of a bad TV series. Yours seems to be that they offer actual speech of worth to the public debate and as such their loss is lamentable, irrespective that their whole purpose is to derail debates. This is the glaring difference of opinion we're seeing here. And I have to point out that reality thus far backs our point of view. The Paradox Of Tolerance is very real and thus a society centered around reason should not show tolerance to those who advocate the abolition of reason.

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  Scary Devil Monastery ( profile ), 31 Jan, 2022 @ 12:40am

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  "But a film about cannibal sex traffickers could actually be good if approached cautiously.
  Especially if, like Cannibal Children or K3: Prison in Hell, the victims overcome the odds and take bloody revenge." Call me old-fashioned but when it comes to horror I prefer old-fashioned cult classics/turkeys like The Lost Boys, The Prophecy, Hellraiser, and stuff like that. When I want scathing political satire these days I can always browse Youtube for the latest Trae Crowder, Bill Maher or similar. Though Beau of the Fifth Column occasionally does run some hilariously sarcastic videos. Sadly a lot of satire written in days of yore are just descriptions of contemporary events today...

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  Scary Devil Monastery ( profile ), 28 Jan, 2022 @ 04:44am

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  So, in other words, you'd have;

  • The loss of the ever-ready excuse and scapegoat for politicians all over as to why the people can't have nice things.
  • The loss of the highly profitable pseudo-slavery which is the US penal system.
  • The removal of yet another demographic which even the greatest of societal losers can look down on.

  I don't think that'll fly in US political circles. The things you mention are only drawbacks if you aren't a politician or prison shareholder.

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  Scary Devil Monastery ( profile ), 28 Jan, 2022 @ 03:09am

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  [Edit] "The only reason Bernie and AOC are part of it is because in a two-party system you can't win the..." "...federal level positions you actually need to introduce real change.", that should have been. Damn, I really need to review what I write better.

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  Scary Devil Monastery ( profile ), 28 Jan, 2022 @ 03:06am

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  "My use of communism for the likes of Clinton is based not on the definition but there practice in reality. It creates a money king who dictates." Every time I hear that I die a little inside. The term applicable for Clinton, Cheney, and most of the US body politic would be pure leftist-speak;

  adjective: reactionary
  opposing political or social progress or reform.
  "reactionary attitudes toward women's rights" noun: bourgeoisie
  the capitalist class who own most of society's wealth and means of production.

  Or in more modern american "Fat cats who know what side of their bread is buttered".
  Also see "ratchet effect". The minority on the winning side ofd the rat race of which they have become an integral driving force and which they have no interest at all to dismantle.
  Honestly, if americans are going to have a chance of ever organizing against the shit-show resulting in the current state of abject poverty much of the population is condemned to then you're going to have to drop the one-liners and pick up a dictionary so at the very least you're all speaking the same language. The Democratic People's Republic of Korea is neither democratic, of the people, nor a republic. It's just a sound byte meant to defleft from the fact that we're talking about an ultra-autocratic dictatorship. The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was neither a union, socialist, or really a republic. It all deflected from a communist uprising having been turned into a loosely ideologically motivated oligarchy. Stalin was about as much a communist as Mussolini. Nationalsocialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei was neither representative of germans, the workers, nor socialist. But it did detract from their real agenda - ultra-nationalism and fascism. And neither Clinton nor Cheney, nor most of the democrats are "leftist", even less so communist. That's just something their political opponents, both inside and outside of that party, like to call them because due to the Red Scare that word sounds a lot like a more diplomatic version of "terrorist" or "pedo".
  The bulk of that party is, in fact, extreme right wing as they protect the status quo by any means. The only reason Bernie and AOC are part of it is because in a two-party system you can't win the Essentially there are more or less two ways by which a country can complete a radical shift towards more socialist attitudes. Sweden used one way - unionization and a strong labor movement became a complete takeover as a new party dedicated to worker's rights muscled in and shaped all the politics thereafter. This usually means a peaceful integration between commerce and ideology leading to the social democracy we have today. Exemplified in a great many thriving nations around the globe. The other is when the establishment has rendered any such peaceful approach impossible. And as JFK put it, "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
  The french, american, cuban and russian revolutions all went down this road.
  That...is a gamble. Every revolution opens doors for the most repulsive of sociopaths. Robespierre, Mussolini and Stalin have as much a chance of getting to the top as a Thomas Paine, Gandhi or Mandela. I think the US is currently practicing brinksmanship of the most dangerous kind. One way or the other radical change is coming. And the one hope of that change coming out in a much needed leftwards direction would require democrats to stop it with the ratchet job. Abandon any hope of retaining the status quo and satisfying the whims of the lobby. And I think that window of opportunity will close right after the 2020 elections...oops. ...or, as I see it, the likely outcome will be a hard turn due fascism as people pin their hopes on a Dear Leader to raise the land and the people. Something, I have to say, Dear Leaders aren't that good at. Especially not when the role models of the current most likely one are Putin and Kim Jong-Un.

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  Scary Devil Monastery ( profile ), 28 Jan, 2022 @ 02:14am

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  Every ill caused by runaway capitalism hinges on one single fact; Look at Europe; No matter how entry-level your position as a burger flipper or janitor your employer provides a living wage, paid leave, paid sick leave, paid maternity/paternity leave, strong union support, and pension contribution.
  And companies accept this without complaint - and the local corporate culture in most major companies reflect this idea. Often respecting these ideals is incorporated in the Code Of conduct. The concept that enforced humanitarian ideals will cause the sky to fall and the sun to set on a nations economy is demonstrably wrong. Every ill affecting the US workers - minimum wages too low to live on, no safety net, often no paid leave of any kind, often neither pension nor health plan...it's all because companies don't just want to do well. It's simply normal that if you earn a few dollars more by keeping ten thousand workers in feudal serfdom then that is what must be done. And save for the few lonely actual left-wingers in the democrat party (Bernie, AOC, Salazar, etc) every member of the body politic - on both sides - essentially want that state of affairs to remain. It's frustrating. I grok why more americans want to just take a torch to the current system and hang the consequences. Comditions for about half the citizenry are rapidly approaching USSR standards of living. And as it was with the old soviet union the commissars just keep braying about the "Worker's Utopia"..err..."Land of opportunity".

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  Scary Devil Monastery ( profile ), 28 Jan, 2022 @ 12:32am

  Uh...are they even trying anymore?

  Body Politic: "Kindly hand over all your no doubt painstakingly collected records of every time you dun goofed bad"

  Shady Cops: "Here you go, sir. This is all we have about that."

  Body Politic: "...aside from That One Guy who lynched black people wearing sheets in the 50's you guys seem to be doing pretty well then? Carry on."

  Shady Cops: "????!"

  General Public: "(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻"

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  Scary Devil Monastery ( profile ), 27 Jan, 2022 @ 07:47am

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  Nah, that'd be Restless94110. Lostinlodos doesn't seem that much in favor of Trump as he's radically anti-establishment, and votes for anyone likely to see the current system burned to the ground. Some of his arguments, in fact, fit those of an old 1970's classical Leninist arguing that incremental change isn't happening and by now the only meaningful change will come by torch and pitchfork. I honestly can't say he's all that wrong. 1 in 10 americans are on food stamps. 40% of households would break from an unplanned $400 expense. A full-time 8 hour job on minimum wage isn't enough to supply housing, transportation, basic medical insurance and food. half the country is one bad turn away from homelessness. And while the GOP has actively pushed for making shit worse, democrats have shown pretty well they're really unwilling to create meaningful change for the better. Something a few of Obama's policies made abundantly clear. Even so...Trump isn't the answer any more than Hitler was the answer to the ailing Weimar. Yeah he'll dismantle a lot of things but not anything supported by money. Under his regime the lobby will be writing all the bills without even the flimsy pretense of politics taking place.

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  Scary Devil Monastery ( profile ), 27 Jan, 2022 @ 07:28am

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  "I dunno, rich motherfuckers like Bezos probably think of both groups in the exact same way..." How much do you think it costs to replace a broken conveyor belt? As compared to replacing the worker attending that belt who finally walked because he was fed up with having to use an on-site bottle rather than take toilet breaks? Answer; The worker costs a pittance to replace even if said replacement is due to said worker breaking. A bad fit for the persistent imagery provided by US media which still blares out a message increasingly resembling the old USSR spiel of the "Worker's Utopia". Hell, with 1 in 10 americans on SNAP (food stamps), 40% of US households unable to cope with an unplanned $400 expense, and conditions worsening fast...it's at the point where you could argue the old soviet workers had it better. From my own perspective that answer is a throwback to early 18th century where I live, because over here anything even resembling that would be a case of that warehouse shutting down. It's complete un-fscking-believable.

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  Scary Devil Monastery ( profile ), 27 Jan, 2022 @ 05:27am

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  "The likes of Clinton and Cheney who are top down pseudo-communists who wish to have sole control over money and dictate who gets what. The ones who are only there to get rich elsewhere." Ok...take it from someone who is a leftist - Clinton and Cheney are about as "communist" as you and I are Martian. Given how both most democrats and all of the GOP have fed the US public a steady diet of lies where everything they don't like is "communist" or "socialist" I'm not surprised to discover that some horrifying misconceptions exist there. I suggest a quick glance over at "The Political Compass" - google it. Cheney and Clinton - and most others close to that camp - are very hard right, by definition; They adhere to and push for retaining status quo. Honestly, I'd suggest you read up on marxism so you can at least identify what is a socialist or communist...and what is most definitely not. Spoiler alert - it won't be what you think it is.
  Or, if you want an easier way than that, go to youtube and look for some guy named "Second Thought" - might be better to see how a genuine dyed-in-wool Marxist sees the world. Another spoiler up front - the term "left" and "right" originated from the classic divide in parliaments where representatives of nobility sat on the right side and the proles on the left. The original meaning was meant to illustrate the struggle between progressive liberals and conservative feudal nobility. And it still is, I think. I don't see much of a difference between a US single mother locked to working three jobs on minimum wage and the indentured serf of the 15th century. Both have the choice of accepting horrible conditions or starving. "The thing with Sanders was he really was after greed, not wealth. Which is why the party rigged the system to keep him out. " Although there's a difference it's not as big as you'd think. The thing is that Sanders wanted actual change. Hence why the dems closed ranks to keep him out. Same as with Andrew Yang who was so successfully frozen out people forgot he was even standing. There are other examples. Here's the thing I'm seeing. Your often expressed opinions are all over the place. As with Cheney and Clinton being "communist" I'm thinking the reason for that might be because as with every other american there's been a concerted effort pushed by both parties to make sure no one even knows the terminology of left-right ideologies or has any clue what those terms mean. So i'm positing something of a challenge, if you have the time. There's a website called "The Political Compass". It has the charts of exactly where numerous politicians worldwide are on the right-left, liberal-authoritarian scale. And a test questionnaire which tells you exactly where your opinions land you. Take an hour's time and fill it out. My suspicion is you'll end up leftwards of Bernie. If that's the case you might want to start reading up on why your opinions end up placing you where you end up.

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  Scary Devil Monastery ( profile ), 27 Jan, 2022 @ 04:57am

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  "Because as soon as you justify silencing something you can justify silencing anything. " You really can't. Would you tell a bunch of hollering kids to take it outside? Or tell a guest who just said something offensive to a present relative "Sir, thank you for coming. Now kindly git"? Would the spontaneous sigh of relief or applause by other people present be something you'd disparage? It's incorrect - and disingenious - to claim that showing an asshole the door is to be considered as the same class of action as suppression of speech. That being the case this boils down to mere opinion. And you are getting the feedback you're getting because your opinion - by extension - means people should extend private courtesy to asshats they are not prepared to give. As I keep saying...free speech may be a worthy hill to die on. But you climbed Hill 937 instead.

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  Scary Devil Monastery ( profile ), 27 Jan, 2022 @ 04:48am

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  "Well the closest thing I can think of is Cannibal Children." For the US there should be a comprehensive list of movies where the DoD extended access to facilities and military material - and some troops as backdrop - against a "minor" say in adjusting dialogue and script. Bit harder to find the USSR PR films but there's always "The Battlecruiser Potemkin"...and just about everything else produced by Mosfilm or directed by Sergey Eisenstein.

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  Scary Devil Monastery ( profile ), 27 Jan, 2022 @ 04:42am

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  "Part of my thought process in supporting a national monthly paid social security deposited minimum annual income, for every citizen, tax free, is it would give everyone an equal social starting point. " The "citizen's salary". Yeah, that'd be Andrew Yang's platform. Personally I'd try to tie it to political engagement - as a citizen you've got That One Job. Educate yourself about candidates and Vote. It probably says a lot how well that got pushed that even Democrats following the candidady for 2020 were often unaware that such a candidate existed. The thing is, "citizen's salary" can even be posited as a centrist-right idea - of every citizen being a shareholder in the nation and earning dividends. Centrist-right by european measurements, of course. By the US current overton window it's so far left even moderate dems will holler about the Red Menace... There are plenty of other side effects. If you are unemployed and on social security today, even in Sweden, most of your time will be spent hunting jobs, declaring that you're actively looking for a job to social services, spending hours every day dropping your CV at places which will never accept you just to fill your quota, etc. No time left over to start a business of your own or try to find something you actually want to do. People who are already down and out on their luck, on the spectrum, in need of therapy or for various reasons just less able...often can't work full time straight off the bat - and fulfilling the requirements for social services are, more often than not, a harshly eroding experience in itself. At the end of which sure, the person in need gets money to live but often at the expense of their mental health. Better to just get them what they need to live up front and then get the person fixed. We wouldn't treat machinery the way we treat broken people. Something has to change about that. If I had to be a cynic I'd even make the call that just handing over the minimum subsistence amount would turn out not even to cost society that much - the administration around social services and determining who is in need are staggering. Most of it would be recouped by the fact that employers could remove the granted sum from salaries and hand it over in tax instead.

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  Scary Devil Monastery ( profile ), 26 Jan, 2022 @ 04:32am

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  "The right-wing playbook goes something like this: first, they say it's not a crime, then they say that if it was a crime, they should be able to get away with it, but then if they're arresed, then Trump will pardon them." ..and in none of the steps does it filter in that for Trump to finally pardon them other people have to believe he's still the president. You know, I wish every malicious asshole was that casually self-destructive. I'm thinking that if they do manage to take house and senate this year and finagle Trump into the white house in 24 the remaining 75% of the US not on their side won't know how to look at themselves in the mirror ever after. The nation will have been overthrown by a cadre of clown less attached to factual reality than Kim Jong-Un's cult.

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  Scary Devil Monastery ( profile ), 26 Jan, 2022 @ 04:08am

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  "That fanfare for the loss of another network." You know how I keep saying you've got better hills to die on?
  You're currently on Hill 937, trying to be a hamburger. Imagine, if you will, that you've got a neighbor. In hos yard there's some person reenacting Orwell's "two minute hate sessions" all day long. You can barely hear him in the distance and for the last year every other neighbor of yours has complained about that guy. Finally your neighbor tosses that guy out. Among the loud cheering, do you really turn to the next guy cheering and tell him "His contribution is a loss to be mourned, not a gain to be celebrated!"? If you do - the analogue of your input here right now - I predict that your remaining neighbors will all be giving you funny looks henceforth.

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  Scary Devil Monastery ( profile ), 26 Jan, 2022 @ 01:53am

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  "I’d explain the independent hatred of her, if you really don’t follow. But the fact is where it comes to some politicians—she’s one— we’d rather watch the world burn." From what I get she's the perfect representative of the democrat side of political grift; strip away all the GOP rhetoric and red herrings and we're still left with Hillary being a repetitive liar openly changing her message to fit whatever desired narrative she thinks the public expects. That much became clear even abroad just following the high points of the 2016 campaign. "A carefully crafted limited engagement campaign protected Biden from the public eye. Those that just wanted something else not the status quo didn’t get to see behind the curtain. " I hate to have to tell you this but...the only reason this works is because almost every voting american is, uh, how to put this...unwilling to set aside ten minutes googling the history of the candidate. Even I know Biden's historical role, ever since he became Obama's VP - being the entrenched white old conservative moderate never making waves to counterbalance the dynamic young black man. The problem with Biden is that although his positives count actually caring - he's empathic, acknowledged even by many of his enemies - he also has a history of Bad judgment calls and is most definitely a representative of the washington elites.
  Unlike a lot of politicians this is the sort of guy you'd want as a neighbor. But probably not in charge of your city. Because his wide circle of friends include Wall Street. And he will do them favors which enable them to screw people. I think the democrats were facing a watershed moment. Either to meaningfully embrace socialism to the point where meaningful change actually happens...or stand there surprised when recommending the US working class "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche" produces a march on the Bastille rather than the usual response. I don't know what to tell you. As bad as some democrats may be, the next republican candidate will be worse. It'll either be Trump or someone less inept. The world might not burn but the US you'll live in after a GOP victory in 22 and 24...is not going to be one where your national charter has any meaning anymore. At the same time more democrat victories will just put you guys further on your knees unless by some miracle the 2024 DNC rolls out Bernie as the candidate and gives him both house and senate to play with. That would take for the democrats to realize that these next few elections are likely to be about their actual lives rather than their careers though, so I'm none too sanguine about that.

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  Scary Devil Monastery ( profile ), 26 Jan, 2022 @ 01:13am

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  "‘It has finally come to pass’" Because both the author of the OP and a great many people here are feeling a sense of relief that DirectTV no longer honors OANN with their business. If the guy who kept holding loud klan rallies in the next city block was finally evicted by his landlord I wager most of his neighbors would cheer over it. And no sane or sensible person would object to the outspoken opinion of the community. This is no different. Implying that it is means you're making assumptions out of context. Sure, the headline does imply, very strongly, that Karl isn't exactly a fan of OAN. That, in my book, is just the author of the OP making his viewpoint visible from line one. I don't have to respect the intolerant, liars, frauds, bigoted or racist. In fact, Popper's Paradox of Tolerance is pretty explicit I must not. I don't have to encourage their ability to effectively spread their message. What I must do is to not tolerate government making it impossible for them to speak anywhere. If a group has made itself so impossible that the only place left for them is to plant their soapbox in the wilderness where audience is scarce then that is just the consequence of their choice to be assholes.

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  Scary Devil Monastery ( profile ), 26 Jan, 2022 @ 01:01am

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  "It’s without real meaning if one’s defence stoops at what is generally acceptable." It's not, really. Popper's Paradox of Tolerance applies to every principle. Both the UN universal declaration of human rights and the US constitution set up a number of inalienable rights. Every such right has exceptions. And no right can be used to override a right held by another. Your right to swing your fist ends where my face begins. You have the right to liberty...except that in daily life you are constrained from exercising that right in a thousand different ways, for instance. And you can be incarcerated which is, no doubt about it, an infringement of that right. You have the right to be secure in your property. Except if public interest compels the state to confiscate said property; Two words, Civil Forfeiture. Ironically far harder to do to people in the far more socialist countries than it is in the US. You have the right to speak. But the people you'd speak to have the right of association. If what you say is considered appalling by the majority they are not obligated to entertain you further in the places where they gather. "But to do so with meaning, you must defend all speech. No matter how repugnant. " And we do. Should Biden come out with a public order making OANN's blithering unlawful we would all react with extreme concern. Hell, I do live in a country where "hate speech" is a legal barrier and I'm having serious concerns about that, even if it's based on the principle that allowing someone to incite violence against a minority is an infringement on the rights if said minority. It's one of those balancing acts where the cure comes awfully close to the harm done by the disease. However, and pay attention here, no one is obligated to applaud and encourage fiction, fraud or bigotry. For sane people to say "Thank Cthulhu those grifters are off the air" is only a negative assertion if the reason the grifters are off the air is because their presence was made illegal. In any other case that's just my opinion. Feel free to counter that with your own opinion - but if you do so leaning on the principles of Free Speech then I'm calling that Strawman Rhetoric. "We have freedoms in literature because people fought for Canterbury Tales and Lady Chatterly." If we want a real controversial there I still think Nabokov's "Lolita" stands out as the still very much valid balance between "Yeah, this is problematic" and "Um, Free Speech?". There's a line in sand drawn here. If we absolutely must defend the right of all opinions to be heard where we gather then that is a principle which effectively renders it impossible to have an opinion. And that principle, if applied to human society, becomes the living argument of Popper's old Paradox. "As you side on what you think is an acceptable limit… I remind you of the Blacklist of the Cold War. Be careful where you draw your lines. " You mean the one where government, applying the violence monopoly saw fit to disincentivize the reading of certain books? THAT has no relevance on the topic of "We don't say that here. Go elsewhere."

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  Scary Devil Monastery ( profile ), 26 Jan, 2022 @ 12:35am

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  "That would make a great movie!" If that's your interest you can find some real gems on Youtube and various open archives around the world. All the current near-peers have a few pretty decent 2 hour propaganda reels in the form of entertainment.

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