I'd like to hear your explanation of these economic benefits. You think Google is going to lose money because there logo doesn't have flag in it? I don't think so... but let's hear what I'm missing.
Actually, I recently read about a new browser named Arora that includes basic ad blocking, and even a flash blocking function - so it's not that crazy...
"They totally overestimate how much their own stuff is "worth" to the wider ecosystem, and then demand that everyone just pay up. Except... that's not the way the world works. The world works by having smart people with smart business models figuring out ways to make people want to give you money, not by sitting back and demanding others just hand over money. "
Actually - I counter that IS the way the world works... as screwed up as it is >
Not that I'm complaining, I think this is a great move, but the Data Liberation Front is not just about getting your data out but also about getting data from other services into Google.
So it seems to help them on that front too, which is perfectly fine from where I sit.
I recently got shutdown by Comcast for going over on there bandwidth limitations and it's got me wondering about a lot of these things. I use Orb for streaming audio/video to my phone. I can watch the news or catch up on my shows on the train into work. I also am a member of Hulu and use it to watch TV as my PC is connected to my TV and it works great. I use Pandora while working to discover new music.
Now, the classic argument on the bandwidth cap is that that usage is all piracy (not saying it is). Also, when talking with Comcast, they explained that they basically run a report at the end of the month, sort by usage, and cut off the top certain percent. This plays into there story that there is no set cap, and that it is only addressed when others notice. However, as more and more of these services become available, and more and more people use them, the bandwidth caps for each individual user will drop.
It's just a matter of time before more and more "average" everyday users will run into these problems because someone directs them to one site or another and there usage breaks this invisible limit. It's a pretty crappy situation, and I don't see it getting any better for, oh, how's 5 years sound. Hopefully we'll have some of this worked out by then.
I'm not sure I'd agree that invention comes in bursts either, isn't the old quote something along "I didn't find a way to make a light bulb, but rather, 1000 ways NOT to make a light bulb"
Granted I'm no expert and my history could be a bit off, but I remember something along those lines and that would tend to illustrate the lengthy process of invention.
I've got nothing wrong with anyone that doesn't find insight into what's discussed here, but seriously, if you really disagree, and can't handle an intelligent debate then go somewhere everyone agrees with you.
Get a clue, get a life, and get out of here.
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I'd like to hear your explanation of these economic benefits. You think Google is going to lose money because there logo doesn't have flag in it? I don't think so... but let's hear what I'm missing.
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Actually, I recently read about a new browser named Arora that includes basic ad blocking, and even a flash blocking function - so it's not that crazy...
http://code.google.com/p/arora/
"They totally overestimate how much their own stuff is "worth" to the wider ecosystem, and then demand that everyone just pay up. Except... that's not the way the world works. The world works by having smart people with smart business models figuring out ways to make people want to give you money, not by sitting back and demanding others just hand over money. "
Actually - I counter that IS the way the world works... as screwed up as it is >
Not just out
Not that I'm complaining, I think this is a great move, but the Data Liberation Front is not just about getting your data out but also about getting data from other services into Google. So it seems to help them on that front too, which is perfectly fine from where I sit.
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You must be new here - consumers don't get to "own" anything anymore, it's simply a lease.
Bandwidth Caps
I recently got shutdown by Comcast for going over on there bandwidth limitations and it's got me wondering about a lot of these things. I use Orb for streaming audio/video to my phone. I can watch the news or catch up on my shows on the train into work. I also am a member of Hulu and use it to watch TV as my PC is connected to my TV and it works great. I use Pandora while working to discover new music.
Now, the classic argument on the bandwidth cap is that that usage is all piracy (not saying it is). Also, when talking with Comcast, they explained that they basically run a report at the end of the month, sort by usage, and cut off the top certain percent. This plays into there story that there is no set cap, and that it is only addressed when others notice. However, as more and more of these services become available, and more and more people use them, the bandwidth caps for each individual user will drop.
It's just a matter of time before more and more "average" everyday users will run into these problems because someone directs them to one site or another and there usage breaks this invisible limit. It's a pretty crappy situation, and I don't see it getting any better for, oh, how's 5 years sound. Hopefully we'll have some of this worked out by then.
I'm not sure I'd agree that invention comes in bursts either, isn't the old quote something along "I didn't find a way to make a light bulb, but rather, 1000 ways NOT to make a light bulb"
Granted I'm no expert and my history could be a bit off, but I remember something along those lines and that would tend to illustrate the lengthy process of invention.
Re: BS
I've got nothing wrong with anyone that doesn't find insight into what's discussed here, but seriously, if you really disagree, and can't handle an intelligent debate then go somewhere everyone agrees with you.
Get a clue, get a life, and get out of here.