Anyways - they don't need no stinking TRIAL and they KNOW IT. All they need to do is ASK PEOPLE. Its called a SURVEY. This trial malarkey (and I wanted to cuss there) is a bag of horse manure (another place I wanted to cuss). But they obviously aren't even intelligent enough to hide what they are doing - or perhaps they just don't care how evil they are looking.
My wife watches Big Brother online, we are in Georgia and we kept hitting the cap within the first week (about 2-3 days). At this time the cap was much lower 250gig. I got a tool to see how much bandwidth and it was going so fast just from her watching the Big Brother live stream that if she were to watch it 24/7 it would have exhausted the bandwidth in less than 2 days! So even a terabyte is anemic - I cannot imagine a house full of kids all with computer access (and schools nowadays make children use the computer as a resource). it's ridiculous how Comcast is ruining the internet for their greed - they aren't rich enough already?
I'm glad for this article because about a year and a half ago a Comcast Business installer (well actually two) told me they have PLENTY of bandwidth. They told me they are just trying to manipulate people into holding onto the TV services, which the internet is a threat to. At that time I couldn't find too many stories on this, but this stories proves what they said was true. The tech told me that the whole "not enough bandwidth" excuse is a lie (which I always knew). Companies like Comcast are teaching people those lies, and publicizing those lies so they can control the internet (usage) in a way that they profit from the Internet AND TV services. They are trying to "balance" the two in a way that they win on both fronts - but the shady part about it is creating lies to make people accept it. If the internet has limited bandwidth (which is actually physically impossible) it is because companies like Comcast are not letting it run at it's natural speed. Yes, it's a form of throttling, and letting out only as much as to make an excuse that there is only so much "bandwidth". They are just a bunch of corporate crooks and liars. just like the lie they started with - that they were EITHER going to get paid by subscription OR Advertising -but see what we are doing now? They get paid for BOTH; they went back on that lie as soon as they got the networks under their thumb. Well, we should have know a snake when we saw one.
I was appalled when I first tried to enter Forbes website and that arrogant message came up. I just didn't go back- just went to Huffington Post which has the same news as they do anyway (or a hundred other sources). Site like theirs need to get over themselves - the biggest news provider is Google, and unless you can shut them down, all of these sites are of minimal value. When I want to know something, 9 times out of 9 I start with a Google search. If I arrive at Forbes it's because Google sent me there. It's much easier to just add "-Forbes" to a Google search than to screw around with Forbes and what they want people to do to get money out of them.
I feel no sympathy for these companies so desperately trying to commercialize and monetize the internet. That isn't what the internet was created for. It is supposed to be a public meeting space, not another cog in your profit machine - so if you don't like it, screw you and your ads.
What further discusts me is when I see what they really want our experience to be like. If you dont know what I mean - think about using the internet on your smartphone, where there aren't any adblockers (well maybe there are now, I'm about to make a check on that because a few months ago I couldn't find any). These site are INSANE, it's like the 1990's before the tech bust all over again. You can't read an article for all the freaking ads. I don't think that is in line with what people want, and I'll be damned if I don't do something so I can browse in peace. If they want to make money, how about a new idea? SELL SOMETHING PEOPLE WANT - and stop with the unscrupulous and mostly dangerous ads, mostly with no accountability and no consideration of safety (and decency, as sometimes the ads are on the x-rated side).
I live in Georgia, a recent transplant from California. In California Comcast didn't have any restrictions, I was with them from the beginning - never a word about my data usage, and I was online every second I was at home, both me, my wife, any of my family / guests - and sometimes on several computers at once. I streamed or downloaded what I wanted and never, ever a whisper from Comcast about my usage.
So in Georgia, I am not even set up like I was in California. My wife is watching a live show and I am surfing the net and for an hour or two I might play a browser game (very little bandwidth). It takes 6 days before I get a rude notice flashing on my screen about my 300gb usage cap. They say it resets at the beginning of the month - so 6 DAYS? The rest of the month I will have to dole out $10.00 per 50gb to a system that only took 6 days to hit 300gb? INSANE.
I tested the usage, the streaming show was coming down in about 1mb per second. Im sure Comcast knows that broadband is the norm, and it typically pulls down more data no matter what people do. It's not like it's some special service that only a few of us have. I don't think anybody is rocking a 56k modem anymore...
So Comcast is razing people who live in the South, I find out. We pay the same as everyone else, but we get caps and have to PAY MORE for the same level of access. This is not only unfair to us, it's unfair to services that rely on the internet - which is a PUBLIC SPACE (only the wires belong to the ISP, not the actual INTERNET). Basically they are limiting innovation, growth and causing people to lose job opportunities. They are hindering a lot of business from producing money, which in turn is hindering our government from collecting much needed tax revenue. Their actions are costing America money, costing us innovation, costing us employment in a bad economy - and that is why I call it an act of terrorism. They are using Data Caps as a form of hostage, for which they are looking for a ransom. They are lashing out at our government's decisions (net neutrality) by trying to extract their "pound of flesh" in any place they are allowed. maybe they need to be NOT ALLOWED.
I noted Comcast but this refers to all of the Cappers. ISP's got big, but that should have never been. They got too big and are now trying to run everything. They should only be an access line to the internet, not the gate keepers. They have shown irresponsibility in that regard. There are plenty of entities who would have been happy just providing the lines - but instead we get these megalomaniacs drunk on power and ego. They must know that the internet is more than what people can do on 300 or less gb per month. Smart TV, streaming services, mobile data, wirless pcs, wired pcs, cloud computing and applications (hi Adobe, Microsoft), gaming and digital distribution - which is becoming de-facto - are just a few stymied areas. We are all suffering under this power play.
it was already bad enough, as big players have choked the natural speed of the net - portioning it out and pretending they have found some new way to "speed it up" - but data caps on top of that. Sorry but I welcome regulation if de-regulation give me this BS.
Lets just get that out in the air. The W3C is not the owner of the internet. The internet is a public space. They are being talked about like they have almighty power over the internet - they do not and if they step out of line with the public's desires for the plan of the internet then they should and can be removed as any kind of authority. The only thing is for people to realize that the W3C does not have that kind of right or power (to grant or deny the MPAA's wishes. for example) over what the public wants and expects from them - according to their credo. Someone at the W3C is making a move to see if they can get away with positioning themselves as the "Boss of the Internet" - all we need to do is remind him that WE are the boss of the Internet, and remove him and the Mpaa completely.
High prices for crappy internet services is just a small part of the problem in America. In America, its high prices for crappy EVERYTHING. Run-down houses, electronic devices, furniture, software, hardware, fines, fees, cars, utilities - we are being shafted from every side. If you look at the price of almost anything in America, compared to the same item in most other countries you will find out how bad the problem is. It doesn't matter if you live right next door to the factory - you pay more in America, and you get less.
What really makes it worse is that there are all kinds of fairly recent schemes to make sure that you don't have money left over in the first place. Blue collar workers wages have went down from upper middle to almost welfare levels. You can't get a simple job that used to require a high school education or some training - without an un-affordable BA degree (education being out of reach for most Americans too). Every time a job sector opens up that gives decent pay, here comes the Universities to capitalize and push out otherwise capable prospective employees. So how will people make the money to pay for all of these overpriced products / services??? If everyone is broke and has no disposable income - why are prices rising and inflating? Its almost feeling like some kind of scheme to break America down...
This case raises a question - if they can sell it at lower prices in different markets - how much is it really worth? They purport that their bottom line is protecting their ability to make a profit - so they MUST be making a profit in foreign markets where they are selling items at a fraction of the cost they are selling the exact same products to Americans; so if they can make a profit on 2.00, how are they justifying the 20.00 we have to pay - on a DOMESTIC PRODUCT, no less???
It sounds more like they want the right to continue to rip off every American. They also seem to want the right to make a profit from non-retail sales, it may not come up in this case, but that's the next logical move. They are encroaching on our right to liberty, freedom and preservation of the American way - I hope the Supreme Court looks deeply into this, as it is affecting more than just copyright.Its heading into Marxism territory...
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Anyways - they don't need no stinking TRIAL and they KNOW IT. All they need to do is ASK PEOPLE. Its called a SURVEY. This trial malarkey (and I wanted to cuss there) is a bag of horse manure (another place I wanted to cuss). But they obviously aren't even intelligent enough to hide what they are doing - or perhaps they just don't care how evil they are looking.
My wife watches Big Brother online, we are in Georgia and we kept hitting the cap within the first week (about 2-3 days). At this time the cap was much lower 250gig. I got a tool to see how much bandwidth and it was going so fast just from her watching the Big Brother live stream that if she were to watch it 24/7 it would have exhausted the bandwidth in less than 2 days! So even a terabyte is anemic - I cannot imagine a house full of kids all with computer access (and schools nowadays make children use the computer as a resource). it's ridiculous how Comcast is ruining the internet for their greed - they aren't rich enough already?
I knew it, and finally some proof...
I'm glad for this article because about a year and a half ago a Comcast Business installer (well actually two) told me they have PLENTY of bandwidth. They told me they are just trying to manipulate people into holding onto the TV services, which the internet is a threat to. At that time I couldn't find too many stories on this, but this stories proves what they said was true. The tech told me that the whole "not enough bandwidth" excuse is a lie (which I always knew). Companies like Comcast are teaching people those lies, and publicizing those lies so they can control the internet (usage) in a way that they profit from the Internet AND TV services. They are trying to "balance" the two in a way that they win on both fronts - but the shady part about it is creating lies to make people accept it. If the internet has limited bandwidth (which is actually physically impossible) it is because companies like Comcast are not letting it run at it's natural speed. Yes, it's a form of throttling, and letting out only as much as to make an excuse that there is only so much "bandwidth". They are just a bunch of corporate crooks and liars. just like the lie they started with - that they were EITHER going to get paid by subscription OR Advertising -but see what we are doing now? They get paid for BOTH; they went back on that lie as soon as they got the networks under their thumb. Well, we should have know a snake when we saw one.
I was appalled when I first tried to enter Forbes website and that arrogant message came up. I just didn't go back- just went to Huffington Post which has the same news as they do anyway (or a hundred other sources). Site like theirs need to get over themselves - the biggest news provider is Google, and unless you can shut them down, all of these sites are of minimal value. When I want to know something, 9 times out of 9 I start with a Google search. If I arrive at Forbes it's because Google sent me there. It's much easier to just add "-Forbes" to a Google search than to screw around with Forbes and what they want people to do to get money out of them.
I feel no sympathy for these companies so desperately trying to commercialize and monetize the internet. That isn't what the internet was created for. It is supposed to be a public meeting space, not another cog in your profit machine - so if you don't like it, screw you and your ads.
What further discusts me is when I see what they really want our experience to be like. If you dont know what I mean - think about using the internet on your smartphone, where there aren't any adblockers (well maybe there are now, I'm about to make a check on that because a few months ago I couldn't find any). These site are INSANE, it's like the 1990's before the tech bust all over again. You can't read an article for all the freaking ads. I don't think that is in line with what people want, and I'll be damned if I don't do something so I can browse in peace. If they want to make money, how about a new idea? SELL SOMETHING PEOPLE WANT - and stop with the unscrupulous and mostly dangerous ads, mostly with no accountability and no consideration of safety (and decency, as sometimes the ads are on the x-rated side).
Data Caps are a form of Terrorism
I live in Georgia, a recent transplant from California. In California Comcast didn't have any restrictions, I was with them from the beginning - never a word about my data usage, and I was online every second I was at home, both me, my wife, any of my family / guests - and sometimes on several computers at once. I streamed or downloaded what I wanted and never, ever a whisper from Comcast about my usage.
So in Georgia, I am not even set up like I was in California. My wife is watching a live show and I am surfing the net and for an hour or two I might play a browser game (very little bandwidth). It takes 6 days before I get a rude notice flashing on my screen about my 300gb usage cap. They say it resets at the beginning of the month - so 6 DAYS? The rest of the month I will have to dole out $10.00 per 50gb to a system that only took 6 days to hit 300gb? INSANE.
I tested the usage, the streaming show was coming down in about 1mb per second. Im sure Comcast knows that broadband is the norm, and it typically pulls down more data no matter what people do. It's not like it's some special service that only a few of us have. I don't think anybody is rocking a 56k modem anymore...
So Comcast is razing people who live in the South, I find out. We pay the same as everyone else, but we get caps and have to PAY MORE for the same level of access. This is not only unfair to us, it's unfair to services that rely on the internet - which is a PUBLIC SPACE (only the wires belong to the ISP, not the actual INTERNET). Basically they are limiting innovation, growth and causing people to lose job opportunities. They are hindering a lot of business from producing money, which in turn is hindering our government from collecting much needed tax revenue. Their actions are costing America money, costing us innovation, costing us employment in a bad economy - and that is why I call it an act of terrorism. They are using Data Caps as a form of hostage, for which they are looking for a ransom. They are lashing out at our government's decisions (net neutrality) by trying to extract their "pound of flesh" in any place they are allowed. maybe they need to be NOT ALLOWED.
I noted Comcast but this refers to all of the Cappers. ISP's got big, but that should have never been. They got too big and are now trying to run everything. They should only be an access line to the internet, not the gate keepers. They have shown irresponsibility in that regard. There are plenty of entities who would have been happy just providing the lines - but instead we get these megalomaniacs drunk on power and ego. They must know that the internet is more than what people can do on 300 or less gb per month. Smart TV, streaming services, mobile data, wirless pcs, wired pcs, cloud computing and applications (hi Adobe, Microsoft), gaming and digital distribution - which is becoming de-facto - are just a few stymied areas. We are all suffering under this power play.
it was already bad enough, as big players have choked the natural speed of the net - portioning it out and pretending they have found some new way to "speed it up" - but data caps on top of that. Sorry but I welcome regulation if de-regulation give me this BS.
Who owns the internet - US not the W3C
Lets just get that out in the air. The W3C is not the owner of the internet. The internet is a public space. They are being talked about like they have almighty power over the internet - they do not and if they step out of line with the public's desires for the plan of the internet then they should and can be removed as any kind of authority. The only thing is for people to realize that the W3C does not have that kind of right or power (to grant or deny the MPAA's wishes. for example) over what the public wants and expects from them - according to their credo. Someone at the W3C is making a move to see if they can get away with positioning themselves as the "Boss of the Internet" - all we need to do is remind him that WE are the boss of the Internet, and remove him and the Mpaa completely.
Thats just part of it...
High prices for crappy internet services is just a small part of the problem in America. In America, its high prices for crappy EVERYTHING. Run-down houses, electronic devices, furniture, software, hardware, fines, fees, cars, utilities - we are being shafted from every side. If you look at the price of almost anything in America, compared to the same item in most other countries you will find out how bad the problem is. It doesn't matter if you live right next door to the factory - you pay more in America, and you get less.
What really makes it worse is that there are all kinds of fairly recent schemes to make sure that you don't have money left over in the first place. Blue collar workers wages have went down from upper middle to almost welfare levels. You can't get a simple job that used to require a high school education or some training - without an un-affordable BA degree (education being out of reach for most Americans too). Every time a job sector opens up that gives decent pay, here comes the Universities to capitalize and push out otherwise capable prospective employees. So how will people make the money to pay for all of these overpriced products / services??? If everyone is broke and has no disposable income - why are prices rising and inflating? Its almost feeling like some kind of scheme to break America down...
So how much is it really worth???
This case raises a question - if they can sell it at lower prices in different markets - how much is it really worth? They purport that their bottom line is protecting their ability to make a profit - so they MUST be making a profit in foreign markets where they are selling items at a fraction of the cost they are selling the exact same products to Americans; so if they can make a profit on 2.00, how are they justifying the 20.00 we have to pay - on a DOMESTIC PRODUCT, no less???
It sounds more like they want the right to continue to rip off every American. They also seem to want the right to make a profit from non-retail sales, it may not come up in this case, but that's the next logical move. They are encroaching on our right to liberty, freedom and preservation of the American way - I hope the Supreme Court looks deeply into this, as it is affecting more than just copyright.Its heading into Marxism territory...