I just question how much usable stuff someone could get, that isn't already available via other means. I could imagine, that's how Trump sees it. I know the GPS would be a non issue. And I have never seen anything done on how much a mic picks up while pocketed.
There is also the other issue, how long it takes to upgrade things. I seem to remember Obama using an outdated Blackberry, because they couldn't "secure" an Android or iPhone. Trump would see having to wait, as ridiculous. I would agree with him on that.
The mic is a good point. Taken. The camera and GPS, not so much.
Serious problem? I don't see it from a practical standpoint (for any president). The President goes from the White House, to Marine One, to Air force One, to the presidential limo, rinse and repeat. Any one of those vehicles has a secure link. And we are worried about the chance he might use a cellphone for a fleeting moment in-between? Methinks they are more worried about his ability to tweet in general, not so much the security level of said tweet. What secret could he give away in a 30 second walk, that he doesn't give to the press already, just to show he can?
As an additional note, I can see where a city might say that an app has made congestion worse. But it's all about perception for those side streets, not even close to an actual analysis of overall traffic flow, pre and post app. By their very function, nav apps distribute traffic more evenly over more routes to achieve the best travel times. That being the case, streets once not traveled so often fill up a bit, and [in theory] the traffic on the main through-ways is lessened. But of course, not everybody is using the apps to get around, so there's that.
Seems to me, the easiest solution is for the city to make Baxter Street one way going uphill. Drivers won't have to deal with gravity to maintain control. The apps will update themselves with the change.
But had one of the other officers already issued an order to disarm? That is the piece we don't know. I find it unlikely that those officers trying to deescalate the situation, would not have said, 'put the knife down' as a first step.
The fact that Kisela did not repeat a command already given, is something the court would be willing to overlook.
Thans for clearing that up.
I see the exception, "except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger;". That seems clear. Police are a civilian militia.
Hi Guy,
I agree that the present environment as a result of other cases is not a good one. But we can't allow that to influence an individual ruling, just because it happens to give legal ammunition to the other side. That would be implying that the one side is always wrong.
At issue would be, if the suspect was given time to comply. Not something we know from this post.
"Also, the lack of tactical command often exhibited by the US police probably also made matters worse, how many of the three officer there were screaming commands at the suspect."
Yes, there are a lot of facts about this case that are not evident in this posting, hence my original disclaimer pointing that out.
I thought derivation of rights could incur criminal liability. I guess it depends, which rights.
I stand corrected.
Agreed. The other two officers had a different assessment. That is a job performance issue. The court was not deciding on that.
Ordinarily, I look at police use of deadly force with an extreme amount of skepticism. I always side on the principle that public safety, trumps officer safety (perpetrators included). That is their job, after all. In this particular case, as described by this posting (big 'IF' here), my opinion is the Supreme Court was correct. The officer was trying to protect another civilian, not himself.
If an officer orders you to drop a weapon, gives you a chance to do so and you don't, all bets are off. Even if you are not brandishing said weapon.
Having said that, it is a valid point that this decision will embolden some officers to act as unprofessionally as this one did. Could he have handled this better? Most certainly. But the issue before the court, was not his job performance, but rather criminal liability. I don't see any, if the weapon holder was in a mental state to comply. The very arguments given by Mr. Cushing, indicate this was indeed the situation.
Somebody help me out here. I seem to remember some case law that implied that if a service provider was completely ignorant of forum content they were blameless, and that if they knew of the content and didn't take it down [fast enough], they were liable. The effect being that it was legally better to not moderate.
Technically, there is also no public evidence that the NSA intercepts and modifies shipments of Cisco routing equipment either. But I seem to remember some photographs...
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa-upgrade-factory-show-cisco-router-getting-implant/
I can see the case of violating the EULA, but not copyright. Patching [any] code should classify the modified code as a derivative work, thus not a copyright violation. Not saying that the new code would then be eligible for a new copyright, for the one doing the patching. That would be a bit of a mess.
If we are going to pass laws limiting magazine capacity, maybe it should include those used by law enforcement.
FOIA vs. CFAA
This ruling makes me wonder what would happen if the FOIA and the CFAA had a deformed child, out of wedlock?