The agreement's negotiating documents are sealed for 4 years, after the agreement is signed, or from when negotiations collapse.
The final agreement will become public upon the agreement of the parties.
Michael Froman the USTR negotiator has said that the agreed final document will be available for public scrutiny for 60 days prior to Government signature.
The agreement will then need to go through each nation's formal Assent process. In the USA this process could be speedy if TPA or Fast track is supported by the House as well as the Senate. Or labourious if no TPA as Congress will go through it clause by clause.
For each of the other nations they have to go through their particular lawful process.
Hope this helps with the '4 year secrecy limitation.'
Anything that goes through a Parliament generally has to be able to be read and as such must be public. Only the background docs are sealed.
We in New Zealand have a considerable campaign being waged against it. Our itsourfuture.org.nz website carries much of what we do and just tonight the latest emailed newsletter:
Reading the 9/11 Commission report for a factual basis of the event is a bit problematic. There was plenty of info coming in. The handlers didn't want it because they had an event that they wanted to happen.
The motivation is for the New Pearl Harbour of the 'Rebuilding America's Defenses' report from PNAC;
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/NAC304A.html
Also I give the link below in my main comment to Susan Lindauer CIA whistleblower. She seems a fairly credible character from establishment family with a good education including a Masters in 'Public Policy' from the London School of Economics. Google her if you want more;
It's a bit like biblical creationists who just know that the Earth only got going in 4004BC. How did they know that? It's in the book.
I'm happy to accept a sublime or hyper-dimensional reality, however the World is very old. And the 9/11 Commission has about as much relation to reality as Walt Disney's Mickey Mouse. . .
And signals intelligence sharing with the 5 eyes or Echelon partners, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand since the 1950s.
So not sure what bozo head is saying, just more crap from the guys that got plenty of warning from OS intelligence friends and USA intel assets like Susan Lindauer;
'We've learned from 9/11' he says. Early in the interview he claims to not having sufficient data on the pre 9/11 movement of the alleged 19 hijackers. Overseas Intelligence and Intelligence in the USA made many reports to Authority prior that fateful Tuesday about suspicious stuff pointing to planes, hijackings and bombs.
The Authorities quashed it, letting 9/11 run. Why would they do this? The people who protect our interest, why quash their own Intelligence operatives bringing forward field intel, not just 'snoop' gathered from phones?
Gen Alexander then refers to the 9/11 Commission report taking a few references from it to bolster his smooth and melodically backed (notice the fluffy muzak in the background, real psyche op) employment of that Grand Lie as justification of his/their Empire.
Jeez if the Intelligence haven't worked out what happened on 9/11 by now, they've got no hope of spotting the enemy. The enemy of the people are running the Spy Operation. The same guys that gave the World 'A New Pearl Harbour', what do you think William Kristol and Robert Kagan?
It's not rocket science. More a bit of inconvenient truth.
Also as to the lie of 'meta data'; New Zealand's Nicky Hagar gave evidence to the European Parliamentary inquiry into Echelon the 5 Powers spying alliance comprising USA, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. The first link is Nicky describing how he gained the information sufficient to write his book 'Secret Power.' The second is his testimony to the Europeans 23/24th April 2001. Not long before that fate full Tuesday, and guess what? He said they the Echelon partners, particularly the USA were using it extensively for corporate and industrial espionage.
Re: Re: Escalating
The agreement's negotiating documents are sealed for 4 years, after the agreement is signed, or from when negotiations collapse.
The final agreement will become public upon the agreement of the parties.
Michael Froman the USTR negotiator has said that the agreed final document will be available for public scrutiny for 60 days prior to Government signature.
The agreement will then need to go through each nation's formal Assent process. In the USA this process could be speedy if TPA or Fast track is supported by the House as well as the Senate. Or labourious if no TPA as Congress will go through it clause by clause.
For each of the other nations they have to go through their particular lawful process.
Hope this helps with the '4 year secrecy limitation.'
Anything that goes through a Parliament generally has to be able to be read and as such must be public. Only the background docs are sealed.
We in New Zealand have a considerable campaign being waged against it. Our itsourfuture.org.nz website carries much of what we do and just tonight the latest emailed newsletter:
http://us4.campaign-archive2.com/?u=2af728ed394d2e3c92f383cd5&id=49e2902907
Re: It happened this way
Reading the 9/11 Commission report for a factual basis of the event is a bit problematic. There was plenty of info coming in. The handlers didn't want it because they had an event that they wanted to happen.
The motivation is for the New Pearl Harbour of the 'Rebuilding America's Defenses' report from PNAC;
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/NAC304A.html
Also I give the link below in my main comment to Susan Lindauer CIA whistleblower. She seems a fairly credible character from establishment family with a good education including a Masters in 'Public Policy' from the London School of Economics. Google her if you want more;
http://www.examiner.com/article/jailed-9-11-whistleblower-who-made-news-now-free-speaking-out-susan-lindauer
It's a bit like biblical creationists who just know that the Earth only got going in 4004BC. How did they know that? It's in the book.
I'm happy to accept a sublime or hyper-dimensional reality, however the World is very old. And the 9/11 Commission has about as much relation to reality as Walt Disney's Mickey Mouse.
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NSA was invention of Wall St. from 1947
The NSA has been established a looong time;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Intelligence_Agency
And signals intelligence sharing with the 5 eyes or Echelon partners, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand since the 1950s.
So not sure what bozo head is saying, just more crap from the guys that got plenty of warning from OS intelligence friends and USA intel assets like Susan Lindauer;
http://www.examiner.com/article/jailed-9-11-whistleblower-who-made-news-now-free-speaking-out-susan-lindauer
Here's the spook community;
http://www.globalresearch.ca/foreknowledge-of-9-11-by-western-intelligence-agencies/32324
And here's another on incoming intel, very comprehensive;
http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&warning_signs:_specific_cases=foreignIntelligence
It's so idiotic. How long can the house of cards stand?
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'We'll First Get the Facts' says Gen. Alexander..
'We've learned from 9/11' he says. Early in the interview he claims to not having sufficient data on the pre 9/11 movement of the alleged 19 hijackers.
Overseas Intelligence and Intelligence in the USA made many reports to Authority prior that fateful Tuesday about suspicious stuff pointing to planes, hijackings and bombs.
The Authorities quashed it, letting 9/11 run. Why would they do this? The people who protect our interest, why quash their own Intelligence operatives bringing forward field intel, not just 'snoop' gathered from phones?
Gen Alexander then refers to the 9/11 Commission report taking a few references from it to bolster his smooth and melodically backed (notice the fluffy muzak in the background, real psyche op) employment of that Grand Lie as justification of his/their Empire.
Jeez if the Intelligence haven't worked out what happened on 9/11 by now, they've got no hope of spotting the enemy. The enemy of the people are running the Spy Operation. The same guys that gave the World 'A New Pearl Harbour', what do you think William Kristol and Robert Kagan?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
Collateral Damage;
http://wikispooks.com/wiki/Document:Collateral_Damage_911
It's not rocket science. More a bit of inconvenient truth.
Also as to the lie of 'meta data'; New Zealand's Nicky Hagar gave evidence to the European Parliamentary inquiry into Echelon the 5 Powers spying alliance comprising USA, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. The first link is Nicky describing how he gained the information sufficient to write his book 'Secret Power.' The second is his testimony to the Europeans 23/24th April 2001. Not long before that fate full Tuesday, and guess what? He said they the Echelon partners, particularly the USA were using it extensively for corporate and industrial espionage.
http://www.nickyhager.info/researching-echelon/
http://cryptome.org/echelon-nh.htm
It's a tool of the Banksters;
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30605.htm
Obviously the Banksters wanted 9/11. What do you think?