I don't infringe. I don't go to theater movies much either. I don't buy movies much anymore, and if they put more restrictions on these, I'm not going to infringe, I'm going to forget the process and go outside or play a board game that won't allow profit to reach back to these idiots.
We have rights that are being trampled. It is against our constitutional ammendment (4th) to illegally search vehicles without probable cause. I have served my country and have lived in this country all my life. You sir can go to hell for even suggesting move.
Seeing how their is no gain except to snoop on us, their is no probable cause - are you an illegal? :Lobo Santo?
Justify your argument how you like. You Douche bag lawyers and copywright asshats only have one thing in mind when suing clubs/people/companies. Money - Not that any of it actually gets to the artist. F*ck you and your system. You have bloodied the law waters with this stuff too long. If you really represented the artist, please show how much of these law suits reach them and what you got in compensation. Is the money comparable? If we knew a majority of it went to the artist, we would give back to them. but we know better.
Derek,
I think what Jerry meant is as long as they invested in the infrastructure in the first place, there is no additional cost for the bandwidth.
As long as it is a business, it needs to continue upgrades and better bandwidth allocation. What I am up in arms with on this is that these providers that have gotten government support to setup the infrastructure, are now asking for more money to then keep the oversell of bandwidth high, cap users at lower limits, and then charge users more for this. It's not capitalism when the government allows territorial rights to cable providers, then allows companies to merge and squeeze out competitors. What is left for the consumer to choose? ATT, Verizon, and Cable??? If you are lucky there are 2 providers. If you are lucky, one of those 2 have not upgraded the infrastructure and charge a lower cost because of it.
I can't believe this isn't the clearest of points.
I build a pipeline. I foot the cost of the pipeline. Say I spend 100 Million building it.
I rent the pipeline to ISPs as well as selling my own services so that they can resell it. I have 2 business models.
1. Consumers I charge 20-50 a month. and I sign up 10000.
2. I sell t-1s and higher to business at $400-10000 monthly.
Say I sign up 10000 businesses 10 for $10k and 9090 for $400.
If one business is running most of my bandwidth at over capacity, it is because I over sold my bandwidth. Typically ISPs sell it at 10/1 which means they sell 10MB for every 1MB they can provide.
If I don't make any infrastructure upgrades during the first 5 years, I should have $232,160,000. 132 million profit.
Seriously, If you make someone pay 2x for bandwidth and they over sell it, you are a fool.
I cut the cord in April, and yes, I do miss some shows, but due to the fact that adding 100+ channels so that I can watch 5-10 of them, is a waste of money. I have the money to pay for it, I just don't care to. I have netflix streaming and will not give it up. I have DSL at 6mb and can stream 2 shows to 2 different tvs at the same time. Other than that, tv is over-rated. I still get terestial stations through and antenna so if I want to watch the fox, nbc, abc, cbs and pbs I can, but do I now? not much. There are a lot of tv shows on netflix that can fill the gap since there is such gaps in the 20 show seasons of regular programming.
Now I go outside more. I personally think it is better.
In fact it is the TSA's job since they screen all pasengers boarding passes before hand. The TSA is part of DHS so it is ultimately their failing. TSA is a joke.
And if I follow your logic, The airline is no better at their own security. Had they scanned in a ticket regardless of what they scanned, it should have showed up on the manifest with a name. Unfortunately not enough details...Could he have gone on with the baggage and went up the elevator???
So we did get off on the wrong foot (by file sharing), but did it ever occur that even without the internet copying/sharing music has been part of what has made music so big. If a friend didn't lend me his Guns & Roses or Jane's Addiction tape so many years ago, I wouldn't have bought them myself or bought them, sold them, then bought them again later. Did that turn out bad for the music industry? No.
kicking them off the Internet for file sharing is like telling people that have DUI's that they have to walk everywhere when they could use public transportation or ride with a friend. There are more uses for the Internet than just that. Just as you tell someone they can't do this and you smite them with your lawsuit papers, you haven't convinced them to do anything other than hate the system.
SMTP does have certificate services. unfortunately it is up to IT Admins and essentially the lowest cost solution to "fight" spam. we have to dumb down the services so that we get legitimate email because not all companies are funded enough to employ the right Admin for the job. Even if we specify the our email server to authenticate the email server before forwarding messages on, it is only a matter of time that the spam servers use this same authentication. It doesn't take long for them to join in...
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It's all the same
I don't infringe. I don't go to theater movies much either. I don't buy movies much anymore, and if they put more restrictions on these, I'm not going to infringe, I'm going to forget the process and go outside or play a board game that won't allow profit to reach back to these idiots.
They can suck it.
Re: Re: The Progression
We have rights that are being trampled. It is against our constitutional ammendment (4th) to illegally search vehicles without probable cause. I have served my country and have lived in this country all my life. You sir can go to hell for even suggesting move.
Seeing how their is no gain except to snoop on us, their is no probable cause - are you an illegal? :Lobo Santo?
Re: Copyright...
Justify your argument how you like. You Douche bag lawyers and copywright asshats only have one thing in mind when suing clubs/people/companies. Money - Not that any of it actually gets to the artist. F*ck you and your system. You have bloodied the law waters with this stuff too long. If you really represented the artist, please show how much of these law suits reach them and what you got in compensation. Is the money comparable? If we knew a majority of it went to the artist, we would give back to them. but we know better.
Re: Re: Re: Re: someones got some bad math going on, so let me clear it up.
Derek,
I think what Jerry meant is as long as they invested in the infrastructure in the first place, there is no additional cost for the bandwidth.
As long as it is a business, it needs to continue upgrades and better bandwidth allocation. What I am up in arms with on this is that these providers that have gotten government support to setup the infrastructure, are now asking for more money to then keep the oversell of bandwidth high, cap users at lower limits, and then charge users more for this. It's not capitalism when the government allows territorial rights to cable providers, then allows companies to merge and squeeze out competitors. What is left for the consumer to choose? ATT, Verizon, and Cable??? If you are lucky there are 2 providers. If you are lucky, one of those 2 have not upgraded the infrastructure and charge a lower cost because of it.
Re: someones got some bad math going on, so let me clear it up.
Number 1 was supposed to based of 100k - 80k at 20, 20k at 50k.
someones got some bad math going on, so let me clear it up.
I can't believe this isn't the clearest of points.
I build a pipeline. I foot the cost of the pipeline. Say I spend 100 Million building it.
I rent the pipeline to ISPs as well as selling my own services so that they can resell it. I have 2 business models.
1. Consumers I charge 20-50 a month. and I sign up 10000.
2. I sell t-1s and higher to business at $400-10000 monthly.
Say I sign up 10000 businesses 10 for $10k and 9090 for $400.
If one business is running most of my bandwidth at over capacity, it is because I over sold my bandwidth. Typically ISPs sell it at 10/1 which means they sell 10MB for every 1MB they can provide.
If I don't make any infrastructure upgrades during the first 5 years, I should have $232,160,000. 132 million profit.
Seriously, If you make someone pay 2x for bandwidth and they over sell it, you are a fool.
cutting cord
I cut the cord in April, and yes, I do miss some shows, but due to the fact that adding 100+ channels so that I can watch 5-10 of them, is a waste of money. I have the money to pay for it, I just don't care to. I have netflix streaming and will not give it up. I have DSL at 6mb and can stream 2 shows to 2 different tvs at the same time. Other than that, tv is over-rated. I still get terestial stations through and antenna so if I want to watch the fox, nbc, abc, cbs and pbs I can, but do I now? not much. There are a lot of tv shows on netflix that can fill the gap since there is such gaps in the 20 show seasons of regular programming.
Now I go outside more. I personally think it is better.
Re:
In fact it is the TSA's job since they screen all pasengers boarding passes before hand. The TSA is part of DHS so it is ultimately their failing. TSA is a joke.
And if I follow your logic, The airline is no better at their own security. Had they scanned in a ticket regardless of what they scanned, it should have showed up on the manifest with a name. Unfortunately not enough details...Could he have gone on with the baggage and went up the elevator???
Re:
So we did get off on the wrong foot (by file sharing), but did it ever occur that even without the internet copying/sharing music has been part of what has made music so big. If a friend didn't lend me his Guns & Roses or Jane's Addiction tape so many years ago, I wouldn't have bought them myself or bought them, sold them, then bought them again later. Did that turn out bad for the music industry? No.
kicking them off the Internet for file sharing is like telling people that have DUI's that they have to walk everywhere when they could use public transportation or ride with a friend. There are more uses for the Internet than just that. Just as you tell someone they can't do this and you smite them with your lawsuit papers, you haven't convinced them to do anything other than hate the system.
Re: Spam filters aren't the solution
SMTP does have certificate services. unfortunately it is up to IT Admins and essentially the lowest cost solution to "fight" spam. we have to dumb down the services so that we get legitimate email because not all companies are funded enough to employ the right Admin for the job. Even if we specify the our email server to authenticate the email server before forwarding messages on, it is only a matter of time that the spam servers use this same authentication. It doesn't take long for them to join in...