I agree that Manning mas y have been a whistleblower. But you've no idea what you're talking about when referring to Snowden. He is by every details unction, including within the scope of the latest law as passed in 2012.
As for the First Amendment, you're viewpoint is your own and, thankfully, not shared by many others. Risen is a thoughtful and mostly responsible professional. His work has been recognised and respected.
Reread the Bill of Rights someday when you're able and think about the role of a free press which was so respected by the authours that they took pains to specifically enumerate its role in our society--a role for which you seem to have no appreciation.
I agree that Manning mas y have been a whistleblower. But you've no idea what you're talking about when referring to Snowden. He is by every details unction, including within the scope of the latest law as passed in 2012.
As for the First Amendment, you're viewpoint is your own and, thankfully, not shared by many others. Risen is a thoughtful and mostly responsible professional. His work has been recognised and respected.
Reread the Bill of Rights someday when you're able and think about the role of a free press which was so respected by the authours that they took pains to specifically enumerate its role in our society--a role for which Yi out seem to have no appreciation.
Mike, an alternate reason why the NSA is unable to determine the scope of Snowden's access is that the systems were designed to provide plausible deniability in the event that someone suspected that the appliances were being used to specifically target Americans for non-terrorism-related matters.... If the stakes are big enough, there are incentives to design specific flaws into the process. Look at Satyam and how it used its ERP to hide financial misdeeds.
The non-tech folks seem to be responding to the idea of "programming errors" as a factor in the errors reported in the WaPo NSA audit article. But it might be useful to let the natives know that the level of "programming" required seems to be on par with typing in your CCV code when buying something online. In other words, the real story is about hiw ridiculously easy it is for ANY operator to acquire,collect, and examine any form of digital information from ANY SOURCE in the world... unless that xKEYSCORE screen cap isn't really like enCASE....
The reason members in the know have kept silent (most probably) is that be censured for reveaking a secret and thrown off of their committee assignment which is controlled by the leadership and chair. Now, while a great one-time gesture and protected from criminal liability, my guess is that they'd prefer to continue the fight while in the know and on their committee rather than ignorant and osolated from any assignment of consequence from the outside. And that IS a form of censorship communities use against its members.
Thank you writing a stunning indictment of the current state of affairs. You represent the concerns of all good citizens and reasonably coherent geeks admirably.
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Response to: Anonymous Coward on Oct 18th, 2013 @ 7:45pm
I agree that Manning mas y have been a whistleblower. But you've no idea what you're talking about when referring to Snowden. He is by every details unction, including within the scope of the latest law as passed in 2012.
As for the First Amendment, you're viewpoint is your own and, thankfully, not shared by many others. Risen is a thoughtful and mostly responsible professional. His work has been recognised and respected.
Reread the Bill of Rights someday when you're able and think about the role of a free press which was so respected by the authours that they took pains to specifically enumerate its role in our society--a role for which you seem to have no appreciation.
Response to: Anonymous Coward on Oct 18th, 2013 @ 7:45pm
I agree that Manning mas y have been a whistleblower. But you've no idea what you're talking about when referring to Snowden. He is by every details unction, including within the scope of the latest law as passed in 2012.
As for the First Amendment, you're viewpoint is your own and, thankfully, not shared by many others. Risen is a thoughtful and mostly responsible professional. His work has been recognised and respected.
Reread the Bill of Rights someday when you're able and think about the role of a free press which was so respected by the authours that they took pains to specifically enumerate its role in our society--a role for which Yi out seem to have no appreciation.
Another Possibility
Mike, an alternate reason why the NSA is unable to determine the scope of Snowden's access is that the systems were designed to provide plausible deniability in the event that someone suspected that the appliances were being used to specifically target Americans for non-terrorism-related matters.... If the stakes are big enough, there are incentives to design specific flaws into the process. Look at Satyam and how it used its ERP to hide financial misdeeds.
Missing an Important Point?
The non-tech folks seem to be responding to the idea of "programming errors" as a factor in the errors reported in the WaPo NSA audit article. But it might be useful to let the natives know that the level of "programming" required seems to be on par with typing in your CCV code when buying something online. In other words, the real story is about hiw ridiculously easy it is for ANY operator to acquire,collect, and examine any form of digital information from ANY SOURCE in the world... unless that xKEYSCORE screen cap isn't really like enCASE....
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The reason members in the know have kept silent (most probably) is that be censured for reveaking a secret and thrown off of their committee assignment which is controlled by the leadership and chair. Now, while a great one-time gesture and protected from criminal liability, my guess is that they'd prefer to continue the fight while in the know and on their committee rather than ignorant and osolated from any assignment of consequence from the outside. And that IS a form of censorship communities use against its members.
Brilliant....
Thank you writing a stunning indictment of the current state of affairs. You represent the concerns of all good citizens and reasonably coherent geeks admirably.