Chicago Agrees To Make Red Light Camera System Barely Less Corrupt By Increasing Grace Period By 0.2 Seconds

from the yay? dept

It's been well-established at this point that red light cameras, those devices that issue tickets and blinding lights to drivers not stopping on red, have always been less about safety and more about the revenue produced by the tickets. That really should be enough a story of corruption for anyone to cast a wary eye at cities implementing these cameras, but you really have to admire the brazen committment to corruption the city of Chicago displayed when initially contracting with the company Redflex for its camera system. The CEO for Redflex was brought up on federal charges for bribing city officials, including offering some condos and cars, because why mess around? Yet, even once we move past the corrupt manner the cameras were put in place, Chicago saw tons of its tickets tossed by a judge who noted that the city wasn't even following its own rules for due process on those tickets. Furthermore, the cameras were set to have a "grace period," the buffer time for which a driver could run a red light and still not be ticketed, of .1 seconds, even as other major cities' grace periods were three times that, and it was laughably clear how this system was designed entirely to bring in city revenue.

Well, rejoice Chicagoans, because the city has been dragged into extending that grace period to the .3 seconds shared by other major cities, making the whole thing barely less nauseating.

Under the new policy, which was announced Monday, the grace period for Chicago’s red lights will move from 0.1 seconds to 0.3 seconds. This will bring the Windy City in line with other Americans metropolises, including New York City and Philadelphia. In a statement, the city agency said that this increase would “maintain the safety benefits of the program while ensuring the program’s fairness.”

Except it really doesn't. This is the same system, no longer operated by Redflex due to the company's corrupt practices, but still born of that same corruption and forever tainted by it. Unaddressed thus far are the city's failings in due process, nevermind any valid analysis showing a safety benefit to any of this. Instead, the city has basically agreed to collect slightly less revenue in its traffic camera revenue program. This, by the way, is the city with the largest red light camera program in the nation. So... yay?

Filed Under: chicago, corruption, red light cameras
Companies: redflex


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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 28 Mar 2017 @ 4:59am

    Isn't there some kind of of national standard for traffic control devices? The last thing we want is for them to be unpredictable.

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      Kevin Hayden, 28 Mar 2017 @ 2:02pm

      Response to: Anonymous Coward on Mar 28th, 2017 @ 4:59am

      You're missing the point. They're NOT traffic control devices.
      They are revenue-generation tools. The more unpredictable the better. That way, they can collect more of your $$$$. Just wondering if anyone has checked the distance from one end of the intersection(s) to the other and checked it against speed limits. A vehicle entering as the light turns yellow should be able to fully exit at the maximum speed of the roadway (ie: without speeding), before the light turns red. If not, then there's definitely something corrupt going on.

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    David, 28 Mar 2017 @ 5:05am

    I don't see the revenue problem.

    Just make the yellow phase half a second shorter, and you are back in business. Heck, make it shorter only on the lights with a camera. Or give it a random component. Even if you don't get to write up the brake artist managing to come to a full surprise stop, you'll get to write a great citation for the guy tail-ending him.

    For traffic safety.

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    Anonymous Coward, 28 Mar 2017 @ 6:28am

    Grace period ... LOL - these people and their silly assed word play, as if they are being nice and letting the crooks get away with shit. They are the crooks, plain and simple.

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    ShadowNinja (profile), 28 Mar 2017 @ 6:38am

    The grace period doesn't matter, either way I'd be more likely to cause an accident by panicking and slamming to a stop when I otherwise would just drift through as the light turns yellow and red.

    And either way I'd still avoid their city like the plague because of the cameras, because I don't like the idea of getting into a car accident because of the cameras encouraging unsafe behavior.

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    D.C. Pathogen (profile), 28 Mar 2017 @ 6:42am

    Another Attack on the middle class

    Who drives in the city of Chicago?
    The low-income people walk or use public transportation.
    The High-income people take taxis or limos.
    The middle income drives cars.

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    Anonymous Coward, 28 Mar 2017 @ 7:05am

    It is Chicago, what do you expect.

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      Anonymous Coward, 28 Mar 2017 @ 7:30am

      Re:

      Yep! It's a corrupt broke city and they need MONEY! So it's the middle class that will once again pay.

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      Michael, 28 Mar 2017 @ 7:52am

      Re:

      I thought 90% of the traffic incidents in Chicago were due to people being distracted by someone trying to convince them that there was any kind of decent pizza made outside of Chicago.

      And the other 10% were pizza deliveries gone awry.

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      Anonymous Coward, 28 Mar 2017 @ 10:36am

      Re:

      As a former Chicago native, I expect:
      - that the Judge who decided this will be reassigned to the worst position possible (pet court?);
      - that this change will be reversed as soon as possible, with the grace period going down to 0 or possibly -1 to make up for lost revenue;
      - and that the Judge will start to receive a nearly unending stream of bogus red light tickets.

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    Anonymous Coward, 28 Mar 2017 @ 10:16am

    Chicago does have some good pizza. And the Cubs, who are still the World Champions.

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    Anonymous Coward, 28 Mar 2017 @ 10:23am

    i've thought since i was a teen that all tickets are merely revenue. red-light cams just automate it and let other skunks handle the details, pops.

    pops? pissed-off parties.

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    Feldie47 (profile), 28 Mar 2017 @ 1:23pm

    Y'aint seen nuttin yet

    Got a problem with these redlight moneymakers? Take a ride on the Mass. Pike. Everything is now cashless, EZ Pass and license plate readers. Here's what that means when no one is around to take your cash:

    1) Passage through the tolls is time stamped.
    2) Passage from one to the other is calculated.
    3) Your average speed s recorded.
    4) In the future ( a year?, 2?) when you get your bill in the mail you'll get your s-p-e-e-d-i-n-g surcharge with it.
    5) No more option of avoiding the electronic monitor.

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    jcwconsult (profile), 29 Mar 2017 @ 7:33am

    Red light cameras

    Chicago's gesture to reduce camera tickets by 29% is a ruse designed to convince gullible people that the camera racket is now fair. IT IS NOT. If Chicago added one second to the yellow intervals or changed the grace to one full second, the violation rates would drop by about 80%. This would both kill the profits AND reveal that the cameras have been a government-run for-profit racket to ticket mostly safe drivers for the sole purpose of illegitimate profits.

    James C. Walker, National Motorists Association

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