Prenda (Mostly) Loses Again; Court Says 'We Warned You To Stop Digging, But You Still Did'

from the first-rule-of-holes dept

Here's a quick lesson in reading judicial opinions. If this is how the ruling on your appeal starts out, things did not go well:
When last we considered John Steele and Paul Hansmeier’s challenges to contempt sanctions imposed on them, we gave them some friendly advice: stop digging.... Apparently they did not realize that we meant what we said. Hoping to avoid paying additional sanctions, they dissembled to the district court and engaged in discovery shenanigans.
And, yes, this is the latest in the still ongoing Prenda saga. Specifically, this is the appeal in the Lightspeed case, one of a few "main" cases where Team Prenda (John Steele, Paul Hansmeier and the late Paul Duffy) got completely slammed by courts for lying and other dishonest and sketchy behavior. Prenda lost big back in 2013, but kept lying. The judge then slapped them with huge fees. On appeal, the 7th Circuit smacked Prenda down again, and (as you probably surmised from above) explained the "rule of holes" to Prenda:
The first rule of holes, according to an old saying, is to stop digging. The two appeals before us bring that to mind, for reasons that will become apparent.
The case went back to the lower court, where the judge hit Team Prenda with sanctions for its behavior, including contempt, and then added on attorneys' fees for good measure.

Because Steele and Hansmeier can't help themselves, they appealed again, leading to this latest ruling. Believe it or not, Steele actually may be temporarily happy with this latest ruling as he actually won on one point (but may lose even bigger in the long run). Still, the court is clearly not happy with either Steele or Hansmeier. It does note that since Hansmeier has filed for a (highly questionable) bankruptcy, he cannot pursue the appeal and thus his appeal is dismissed out of hand.

Steele's appeal, however moves forward. And he still mostly loses and the court doesn't miss opportunities to slam Steele:
Steele offers only the weak argument that Smith should have obtained and submitted this evidence earlier, and that Smith’s lack of diligence should cut off this line of inquiry.... This approach has little but chutzpah—a quality that Steele and his compatriots have long demonstrated—going for it. To begin with, it was Steele and Hansmeier’s actions that prevented Smith from obtaining the necessary evidence in time for the November 12, 2014 hearing. (Indeed, Steele and Hansmeier maintained at the hearing that Smith should receive no further discovery because he already had all the relevant documents in his possession.) Steele’s misrepresentations and Hansmeier’s motion to quash delayed Sabadell’s production regarding Steele’s finances until November 17, 2014. The district court denied Smith’s motion the next day. Meanwhile, Smith first sought discovery regarding Monyet from TCF Bank on March 24, 2014. Because of Hansmeier’s second motion to quash and initially incomplete production, Smith was unable to obtain it until February 2015.

Steele nonetheless says that Smith should have found the relevant documents earlier because Monyet’s existence was “public record” in 2010, and the relevant documents were attached as exhibits to a debtor’s exam in a Minnesota bankruptcy case in June and July 2014. The fact that Monyet’s existence was public record is of little import: Smith had no reason to know of its existence, let alone any way to know of Hansmeier’s control of the company or the transfers Hansmeier made from its Scottrade account. Moreover, Smith was not a party to the Minnesota bankruptcy case. The district court did not abuse its discretion in granting Smith’s motion to reconsider.
The court notes that the sanctions on Steele are "easy to justify" given "Steele's entire pattern of vexatious and obstructive conduct."

And that included deliberately seeking to hide his and Hansmeier's money just as the sanctions were being ordered:
This was the very time when Steele and Hansmeier were emptying accounts they controlled of sums vastly in excess of the sanctions they owed. This was obviously egregious behavior, and a flat violation of the district court’s order. Their actions necessitated Smith’s litigation over their ability to pay the sanctions. Smith’s compensable expenses reasonably reached back to his first round of third‐party subpoenas, issued on January 16, 2014, as the district court found.
The one point that Steele won on, however, was on the contempt fine. Steele had argued that it was issued as a form of criminal contempt, rather than civil contempt, and there are different standards there. After looking it over, the appeals court appears to reluctantly agree.
Examining the nature of Steele’s fine and its justification, we are convinced that it falls on the criminal side of the line. It was an unconditional fine that did not reflect actual costs caused by the attorneys’ conduct. The district court justified the fine of $65,263.00 solely by reference to the attorneys’ “contemptuous statements in court.” This number, the court commented, was “twenty‐five percent of Judge Murphy’s original sanction.” It added that a “pattern is purposefully developing whereby the contemnors could find their way back to the full sanction … for their original wrongdoing if they continue their misdeeds before this Court.” This justification most naturally supports a fine meant to vindicate the authority of the court and deter future misconduct, not an award designed to be compensatory or coercive.

It is also telling that the amount of the fine was not connected to any cost imposed on either Smith or the district court. The court meant instead to punish past behavior and to deter future contemptuous conduct. Nor was the fine tied to any specific future action. While Lightspeed I found a fine quantified without reference to billing statements to be a civil contempt, the fine there “corresponded to attorneys’ fees and costs incurred by defendants during the course of litigating the contempt motion.” ... That is not the case here: the district court said nothing about Smith’s costs. It had taken care of the costs attributable to the separate discovery sanctions in a separate part of its order.
Of course, this small victory may be short-lived:
We make no comment on what type of contempt Smith may wish to seek, whether the court might re‐consider the possibility of civil contempt, or whether criminal contempt could be justified once the proper procedures are followed. We are confident that the district court will take a fresh look at these questions in light of this opinion.
This issue actually came up during the original appeal, when the judges on the 7th Circuit, somewhat incredulously, asked the lawyer representing Steele and Hansmeier if he was really asking for the courts to consider if Steele and Hansmeier had committed criminal acts when it had already focused solely on civil ones. And, now, Steele, at least may find himself in a deeper hole because of this. That's what happens when you keep digging.

Filed Under: 7th circuit, anthony smith, copyright troll, john steele, paul hansmeier, rule of holes
Companies: lightspeed, prenda, prenda law


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    That One Guy (profile), 20 Jul 2016 @ 5:39am

    The chewbacca defense?

    From a non-lawyer perspective the only possible reason I can think of that Steele would want criminal contempt instead of civil is that the requirements for conviction are likely higher, which seems risky to say the least given there should be more than enough evidence to suffice for sanctions, criminal or civil.

    I can only hope his gambit here backfires horribly for him(and hilariously for the rest of us), for purposes of schadenfreude if nothing else.

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      The Wanderer (profile), 22 Jul 2016 @ 8:36am

      Re: The chewbacca defense?

      Unless I'm misreading things, Steele wasn't asking for the contempt fine to be treated as criminal contempt instead of being treated as civil contempt; he was arguing that the fine was imposed in a way which would qualify it as criminal contempt, even though the standards for criminal contempt had not been met.

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        sophisticatedjanedoe (profile), 22 Jul 2016 @ 9:29am

        Re: Re: The chewbacca defense?

        I don't have time to review Prenda's argument in this case, but it is worth noting that a year ago during the 9th Circuit appeal argument, Prenda's attorney specifically asked for that -- to judges' disbelief:

        Judge Pregerson: "Do you want us to send this back and have it turn into a criminal contempt? Is that what you want?"

        Daniel Voelker: "At a minimum? Absolutely, You Honor: my clients want their day in court..."

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObZDipKRH0c -- skip to 16:50

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    sophisticatedjanedoe (profile), 20 Jul 2016 @ 6:18am

    "Duffy is now deceased and so beyond our jurisdiction."

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    I.T. Guy, 20 Jul 2016 @ 6:40am

    "we gave them some friendly advice: stop digging..."
    LOL they actually said that. That's awesome.

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    Jigsy (profile), 20 Jul 2016 @ 7:17am

    "Dig up, stupid!"

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    Anonymous Coward, 20 Jul 2016 @ 7:27am

    What frustrates me the most about this whole thing is how onesided it really is.

    It barely takes any time at all to crush the average person beneath mountains of punishments for something as easy as copyright infringement, and yet here we are some several years later and the nefarious Steele and co still aren't punished.

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    kallethen, 20 Jul 2016 @ 7:46am

    While I'll be very glad when we finally see Steele and Hansmeier punished for their misdeeds, I must admit I'll miss the entertaining rulings. Like the quotes in this article:
    The first rule of holes, according to an old saying, is to stop digging. The two appeals before us bring that to mind, for reasons that will become apparent.


    ...we gave them some friendly advice: stop digging.... Apparently they did not realize that we meant what we said.

    This is just gold.

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    DannyB (profile), 20 Jul 2016 @ 9:23am

    Rule of Holes

    old: when you're in a hole, stop digging.
    new: when you're an a-hole, stop digging.

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    DB (profile), 20 Jul 2016 @ 9:23am

    The language of the ruling is unusually blunt, but Prenda still benefited from the appeal. Part of the sanctions were reversed, and Smith has to pay his own legal fees.

    Smith will risk have to pay more legal costs and fees for the remand. It's unlikely that much effort will be devoted to the hearing.

    And the delay worked -- neither Duffy nor Hansmeier will have to worry about a criminal sanction impacting their law careers. It's not clear, but Hansmeier was apparently considered dropped from the appeal. He'll claim that allows him to avoid any criminal sanction hearing, along with any new civil sanctions.

    Steele is the only one still part of the appeal. He still has his law license, so it's only time, not money, to continue the strategy of delay. And this time he has learned to hide his money a bit more carefully.

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      Dan (profile), 20 Jul 2016 @ 10:22am

      Re:

      Duffy's dead, so he doesn't have to worry about much of anything any more. Or, put differently, whatever he does have to worry about now won't be affected by any earthly court proceedings.

      Hansmeier was dropped from the appeal, so the judgment stands as to him. It can't be enforced while his bankruptcy is pending, but that bankruptcy isn't going well for him either. He's also stipulated to losing his law license.

      Steele won a little and lost a lot on the appeal, and back to district court it goes. Given his ability to hide money, the court may well decide that he needs to be incarcerated rather than fined.

      And, of course, there's still the FBI waiting in the wings.

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      That One Guy (profile), 20 Jul 2016 @ 10:29am

      Re:

      Yeah, even when they get rulings against them it's wrist-slap level at most, which does rather undercut the enjoyment from seeing them get benchslapped(not to mention highlights the high-court/low court issue once again). At this point the best hope is probably for the government investigations to kick into high gear, which might be a little less forgiving when it comes to dealing with them.

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    WDS (profile), 20 Jul 2016 @ 9:27am

    Wink, Wink

    If ever there were a "Wink Wink" statement in a court ruling, it is the following:

    "We make no comment on what type of contempt Smith may wish to seek, whether the court might re‐consider the possibility of civil contempt, or whether criminal contempt could be justified once the proper procedures are followed. We are confident that the district court will take a fresh look at these questions in light of this opinion."

    Translation: Mr. Steele get ready to defend yourself against Criminal Contempt.

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  • identicon
    Pixelation, 20 Jul 2016 @ 9:41am

    Pixelation to Prenda

    DIG! Please keep digging. We so rarely get to see the bad guys take the hit in legal proceedings and love the entertainment value.

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    David, 20 Jul 2016 @ 9:46am

    Be careful of what you ask for.

    If you read between the lines, it's practically comical!

    Prenda: You can't do civil sanctions that way, it should be criminal sanctions!

    Court: Okay.

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  • identicon
    Quiet Lurcker, 20 Jul 2016 @ 9:54am

    To paraphrase Dr. Doom (Marvel super-villain):

    I would enjoy the prospect of a battle of wits with John Steele. Sadly, it would be all too short.

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  • identicon
    Norahc, 20 Jul 2016 @ 11:13am

    Popcorn

    Popcorn here! Get your popcorn! I've got a 53' trailer of popcorn.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 20 Jul 2016 @ 1:15pm

    Well well well. The clowned crusaders of Kopyright are finally getting theirs. It's odd though. Where is Whatever and whoever to defend their Heros in their time of need?

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      Anonymous Coward, 20 Jul 2016 @ 6:06pm

      Re:

      Busily drowning in their salty tears, and by-products of mutual masturbation.

      Copyright fans are a fucked up bunch.

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    mcinsand@gmail.com, 20 Jul 2016 @ 1:59pm

    still waiting for the big league welcome

    I'm still anticipating the FBI and hopefully the IRS welcoming Steele and company to 'the big leagues.'

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    Anonymous Coward, 20 Jul 2016 @ 3:40pm

    "Stop digging yourself, Stop digging yourself!"

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    Anonymous Coward, 20 Jul 2016 @ 6:46pm

    this reminds me of some douche that hunts around the community to find violations that he drags them into court over.

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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), 21 Jul 2016 @ 2:56pm

    At this point, I think it is just a plot to keep cases in courts to forestall any other acronym agency from swooping in on them.
    If the IRS were to pounce now that would be screaming about how they were harmed and not getting a fair day in court, so keep filing fluff, rely on appeals taking years to be ruled on, while the money stays in limbo not existing while keeping their lifestyles afloat.

    It is sad to see how quickly courts threw citizens to these wolves, but now we have to make sure the wolves actually ate the citizens we threw to them.

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