Too Much Free Time

by Mike Masnick


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SOPA In Infographic Format

from the for-the-visual-thinkers-among-you dept

The folks over at BusinessInsurance.org have put together a pretty decent infographic about SOPA (though they get confused and at one point name some Senators as "supporters," even though SOPA is in the House, not the Senate). Still, if you were looking for a decent visual representation of the whole thing, here you go:
Behind SOPA: What It Means for Business and Innovation

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  • identicon
    ScytheNoire, 12 Dec 2011 @ 11:16pm

    I think I found the problem

    I think I found the problem. You got Copyright in my creativity. If we can just remove that, it seems like all will be fine from there on out.

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    Getefix, 13 Dec 2011 @ 1:43am

    Trade Weapon

    SOPA is a trade weapon, and that is why it will pass. As more and more business is done over the internet it gives the U.S. a more delicate tool for trade sanctions. Sure, a review might clear the major Icelandic fishery websites of charges of linking to infringing content, charges that could coincidentally follow Iceland being the first Western nation to recognize Palestine, but in the meantime a lot of business could potentially be lost.

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    Andrei, 13 Dec 2011 @ 2:03am

    Dell McAfee And Microsoft switched sides

    Dell McAfee And Microsoft switched sides. BSA Switched sides. They are against SOPA

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    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2011 @ 2:28am

    And it leaves out the the language in the current bill!

    How convenient!

    Nice job using Nazi Germany propaganda tactics in all this, Masnick.

    But at least some of us know that you and Google are the true face of evil.

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    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2011 @ 2:36am

    I love this sort of thing. Mike, you admit they got some of it wrong. If this was a pro-SOPA thing, you would be calling them out as spinmeisters, as incompetent, and as liars.

    I guess you run it because it supports your position, even if you know that the graphic is wrong. Pathetic!

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      Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2011 @ 2:56am

      Re:

      Careful, your desperation is showing.

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      Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2011 @ 3:25am

      Re:

      You're complaining that he's recognising the flaw in something that you disagree with?

      What?

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        Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2011 @ 3:39am

        Re: Re:

        No I am complaining that he glossed over a problem, and didn't call the rest of the information into question - which is what he would have done if it supported SOPA.

        Things like this just show how one sided Mike's views are.

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          Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2011 @ 4:16am

          Re: Re: Re:

          Just maybe because most of the information is correct and he just bothered to point the wrong parts, different from the likes of you that come here only to troll.

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          Anonymous Poster, 13 Dec 2011 @ 5:09am

          Re: Re: Re:

          Things like this just show how one sided Mike's views are.

          Yet, the very moment Mike makes a "mistake", people like you are ready to shove it in his face, call him a Nazi freetard socialist copyright-raping rat bastard, and do everything you can to show that your views are as one-sided as you claim Mike's are.

          If your views aren't as one-sided as your raging against Mike would have everyone believe, then you'd be able to admit that there are problems -- lots of them -- with SOPA and PIPA, and those problems stand a damned good chance of causing a lot of collateral damage.

          I'm willing to admit that piracy is an issue that deserves smart, laser-guided legislation to deal with (if the Big Media companies are truly set on not adapting to modern day technologies).

          Are you willing to admit that SOPA and PIPA could censor legitimate websites/content, force existing Internet services to drastically change the way they operate in order to avoid legal liability, and prevent new Internet services from starting up in the face of massive legal liabilities?

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            Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2011 @ 5:12am

            Re: Re: Re: Re:

            There are issues with SOPA - but there are issues with the current state of affairs that cannot be tolerated.

            "Are you willing to admit that SOPA and PIPA could censor legitimate websites/content"

            No. Not at all. There is nothing that says this will happen, except the scare mongers. Legal, legit websites with legal, legit content don't have anything to fear. Websites who don't check content, or don't give a shit what is on their sites will suffer - and they should.

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              Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2011 @ 5:44am

              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

              I heard this one website receives 60 hours of content per second, and you want them to check it all? For infringing content?

              Good luck with that.

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              Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2011 @ 6:45am

              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:


              Websites who don't check content, or don't give a shit what is on their sites will suffer - and they should.




              So you are admitting that you want to get rid of the DMCA's safe harbor?

              The DMCA does not require a site to monitor user generated content, only taking down infringing content after a valid DMCA notice.

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              Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2011 @ 6:46am

              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:


              Websites who don't check content, or don't give a shit what is on their sites will suffer - and they should.




              So you are admitting that you want to get rid of the DMCA's safe harbor?

              The DMCA does not require a site to monitor user generated content, only taking down infringing content after a valid DMCA notice.

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              Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2011 @ 6:47am

              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:


              Websites who don't check content, or don't give a shit what is on their sites will suffer - and they should.




              So you are admitting that you want to get rid of the DMCA's safe harbor?

              The DMCA does not require a site to monitor user generated content, only taking down infringing content after a valid DMCA notice.

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                Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2011 @ 7:03am

                Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

                The safe harbor is a wonderful idea, but has been abused by certain companies and individuals to the point where it is no longer doing what it should do.

                It has created a situation where anyone can post anything, without rights, and profit from it until someone says "oh, wait, that's mine... you can't be using it". Then the website takes it down, and says "oh, sorry!". But they keep the profits. Oh, and they can have another "rogue user" upload it again minutes later, and since it's a new URL, it needs to be DMCA'ed by the owner again, if they find it.

                Basically, it turned into an open license to use content without permission, and with no downside to doing so.

                So yeah, for many sites, the safe harbor provisions of DMCA are too much.

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                  The Devil's Coachman (profile), 13 Dec 2011 @ 8:50am

                  Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

                  Situational ethics is what I believe you are in support of.

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                    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2011 @ 4:57pm

                    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

                    I've been pointing it out in the other thread and this series of responses just cements it - for the troll(s), they don't/he doesn't really care if Wikipedia does get shut down based on SOPA accusations despite their insistence that it wouldn't. Indiana Gregg or anyone with a want to suppress/claim copyright over information will just say "Fugg dis shit mang" and complain that Wikipedia didn't take down the information quickly enough.

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              Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2011 @ 7:05am

              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

              :There are issues with SOPA - but there are issues with the current state of affairs that cannot be tolerated."
              that is so true...
              there should be some sort of law to prosecute any organization that tries to hold back innovation and harm society as a whole by buying stupid ineffective laws...

              funny how SOPA supporters always claim it will only harm those evil pirates, even though everyone knows SOPA will have 0 effect on piracy, just like every other stupid law put forth by our Benevolent Media Overlords...
              the genie is out of the bottle, and it is only going to get worse...
              they have gone from fight ctrl=c/ctrl-v to trying to fight single mouse click... wonder what will be next?

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              apparently, 13 Dec 2011 @ 1:35pm

              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

              your one of those retards that think you can just push a button and scan the internet.

              but what did i epect from the country that came up with the idea of preventive war?

              PS: i am american....sadly...

              *gets depressed thinking of why i was not born in iceland*

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    Spaceman Spiff (profile), 13 Dec 2011 @ 7:48am

    Al Franken?

    The illustration of Al Franken being a supporter of this train-wreck-waiting-to-happen really surprised me, given his support for many more sensible and progressive agendas. Did someone hypnotize him? Bamboozle him will bullshit? Hold his kids hostage?

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    Anonymous Coward, 13 Dec 2011 @ 11:28am

    Comments held for moderation

    Why are comments held for moderation for several hours?

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