The Return Of Measles Is Bad. A Polio Comeback Would Be So, So Much Worse
from the on-the-horizon dept
We’ve talked a lot about the resurgence of measles in America over the past 14 or so months, and for good reason. It’s a horrible disease of historic significance. Equally historic was America achieving elimination status of the measles 26 years ago, only to see that almost certainly fall away thanks to the incompetence and inaction by Secretary of HHS, RFK Jr. This is all connected with a surge of anti-vaxxer nonsense that has proliferated across several decades, but which is now peaking thanks to the clowns this administration has put in charge of American health.
But as bad as the measles is, and it is really bad, it would be nothing to the visible horror show that any real return of polio in America would be. It was only weeks ago that the chair of ACIP, the CDC’s committee for recommendations on vaccine policies, wondered aloud if we should be vaccinating for polio any longer. Perhaps in part because of those comments, healthcare professionals throughout the country are ringing the alarm bells, warning that the country is in no way prepared for a return of polio.
Part of the problem, ironically enough, is that vaccines have done such a wonderful job of eliminating polio that healthcare professionals are no longer proficient in treating it.
“We don’t have a healthcare infrastructure to take care of a polio outbreak,” said Grace Rossow, an operating-room communications coordinator in Illinois, who has long-term health issues following a case of polio as an infant.
“They don’t know how to treat it. It is a massive problem if we have a resurgence of polio.”
Polio has no cure. Those who get it merely get their symptoms treated as best they can. Up to half of those who get the disease will suffer from long-term effects for the rest of their lives. Symptoms of post-polio syndrome include such fun things as increasing weakness in the muscles, fatigue, pain and muscle atrophy, problems breathing and swallowing, and an inability to be mobile without mechanical assistance. And that’s what you can deal with once you get past the acute symptoms, like paralysis in the lower extremities and the inability to breath without the help of an iron lung.
And if Polio does indeed return, it will be because selfish or misguided people, typically clinging to religious excuses that are simply unserious, have refused to be good members of their communities by getting them and their children vaccinated.
Art Caplan is a polio survivor, who has suffered from post-polio syndrome and now currently teaches medical ethics at NYU.
When Kirk Milhoan, the chair of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, said the vaccine advisers were reconsidering routine childhood vaccines because the risks of illnesses such as polio had dropped, “that makes me furious”, Caplan said.
“If you could gather up the kids I saw die or become really severely disabled from 50 years ago, they would want you arrested … It’s horrifying, and the height of irresponsibility to leave the door open even a crack,” he continued.
As more families choose not to vaccinate, particularly after the US stopped fully recommending several key vaccines, Caplan said: “You are begging to have a recurrence of the disease.”
Betting on the return of a disease as infectious as polio while witnessing falling vaccination rates is an easy bet. That’s how these diseases work. And if the angry rash and a few dead children haven’t gotten through to the masses on the measles, I dare say that children with deformed and mangled joints, bones, and bodies, either stuffed into iron lungs or getting by with the help of dual walking canes, would likely clarify the minds of Americans on this matter.
But, and I cannot stress this enough, there is no reason we should have to sacrifice so many people, so many children, to re-convince ourselves to do the right thing.
Filed Under: anti-vaxxers, health, health & human services, measles, polio, rfk jr., vaccines


Comments on “The Return Of Measles Is Bad. A Polio Comeback Would Be So, So Much Worse”
And then wait when rabies becomes so epidemic because RFK decides to ban all rabies vaccines, ensuring that everyone who gets attacked by a rabid animal inevitably dies!
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Don’t give them ideas!!
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Here’s a good one. Dilute any medicine say a million to one and it loses its effectiveness. So just find studies to show that anything they don’t like doesn’t work. Good excuse to withdraw approval.
Before you complain too much, studies like this are done all the time.
MAGA medicine
Oh come on, if the crippling of Polio doesn’t kill you, it will make you stronger. Suck it up and rub some dirt on it!
Let’s say you’re a werewolf. Not the pretty kind, the uncontrollable violent monster kind that preys on humans.
You have two choices. One, you can try to contain the threat you pose to others. Fortify your home, quarantine yourself when you’re infectious, perhaps even move elsewhere until a cure is found.
Or, you can go about your daily life, not giving a damn if some monster in your body goes out on a killing and biting spree every month.
If you choose the first option, well, I’ll support you. I’ll do what I can to make sure you have the supplies you need and that the wolf doesn’t break out and start hunting people.
But if you go with the second option, well, that’s your choice to make. Just as it’s my choice to shoot the feral killer in your body that’s threatening me and my children.
It’s your call.
Also, note that if Polio returns, RFK is unlikely to get it because he’s been vaccinated.
[insert the usual Lord Farquaad quote here]
If rfk jr isn’t pardoned there is a good chance he’ll be changed with lying to Congress during his appointment hearing when someone normal comes back into office.
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…the chances of anybody from this administration being charged with, let alone being found guilty of, lying to Congress is absolutely zero. Otherwise the Federal Prisons would be overflowing with ‘the best people’.
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My autocomplete changed “charged” to “changed”. Thank you for understanding what I meant.
I can’t wait for the remnants of the press to reveal that RFK, Trump Jr and Jared have invested in an new startup that produces baby crutches and Iron Lungs, well after that knowledge would help change anything.
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If any of them are still alive and the world still produces rope, that knowledge won’t be too late.
I remember this horror
I’m old enough to have watched and listened as family members — children — died from polio. I can’t even begin to find the words to describe it; it was a nightmare that I’ll never be able to outlive. Everyone should be forced to vaccinate their children against it — and publicly executed if they refuse to comply. Better that they die in the street than sentence innocent children to slow, agonizing, and inevitable death.
I think we can drop this argument by now. We can see it before our eyes every day that goes FAR beyond that at this point. It’s also in large part because a bunch of Jeffrey Epstein’s rich conmen friends with a passing interest in eugenics and unlimited money to burn on media capture, propaganda, and making number go up on their snake oil investments, got together over some light tag-team molestation and decided to engage in a coordinated assault from all sides on the very concept of evidence-based medicine as revenge for one of their own, Elizabeth Holmes. Through great barrington declarations, platforming of antivaxxers, antimaskers, freebirthers, huge donations to the likes of RFK, they got what they wanted, the systematic tearing down of two centuries of medical progress.
Hey MAHA/MAGA adherents. Please! Think of your children and get them vaccinated! Only you can help keep an outbreak of these horrible diseases that world has managed to get a lid on from coming back.
If you think your kid becoming autistic is bad (it’s not and they won’t), having your kid crippled by polio is so, so very much worse. Go watch polio survivors talk about their lives, and then vaccinate your damn kids.
Oh, and when your kids find out you crippled them for life because you refused to take action stopping them getting an easily preventable disease- heaven help you. No-one else will.
Re: 'I'd rather see my children DEAD than autistic' -The pro-plague motto
If you think your kid becoming autistic is bad (it’s not and they won’t), having your kid crippled by polio is so, so very much worse.
That’s probably the most infuriating(ly stupid) part of the whole ‘movement’ in that even if you granted for the sake of their homicidal argument that vaccinations had a whopping 50% chance of causing autism you can live a long, healthy and happy life while autistic but the same cannot be said for a number of diseases that vaccinations prevent or heavily reduce the impact of.
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Even if there is a vaccine for autism, the morons still wouldn’t take it because they’d find some other boogieman to get riled up about.
“Reconsidering” is literally Milhoan’s job, and the board’s job. It’s the “alarm bells” that hint at the real problem. The nation’s and the world’s doctors have weighed in, and we have our answer: we damn well need to keep vaccinating for polio; the risks of not vaccinating are so huge that the risks of vaccinating are worth it till polio’s as extinct as smallpox—which it isn’t, but we can get there if we don’t fuck it up. Other health agencies have been considering the question regularly and coming to the same conclusion.
We have “alarm bells” because those doctors don’t think Milhoan is actually “considering” properly, as the job requires. They think it’s anti-vaxxing posing as legitimate consideration, and I agree. But some of the quotes are unclear. We shouldn’t be shitting on people for raising the question—we should be shitting on them for raising it dishonestly, as a pretext to justify whatever deadly actions they plan to take regardless of the answer they get.
'That's a price I'm willing to (have you) pay.'
Ah but don’t you see, what’s a few thousand/tends of thousands/hundreds of thousands of children crippled for life(assuming they don’t die horribly) if it means standing up to Big Pharma and the super-spooky needles?
That’s a price the pro-plague movement is prepared to have others pay if the alternative is admitting that they either are frauds and liars making a living off of pushing anti-science or have been duped by the previous group and far from protecting their children have been working overtime to maim and/or kill those same kids by refusing to give them proper medical care.
This is What Idiocracy Looks Like
I take Brawndo so I’m protected against Polio!
Re: Oh if only...
As I’ve seen pointed out when people make that comparison Idiocracy would be a vast improvement over what the US is currently dealing with because at least in the movie the president was willing to accept that someone else might know more than he did and was willing to give that person once found the chance and power to fix things not just once but twice.