House Oversight Committee Wanted To Berate Twitter’s Old Management Over Hunter Biden’s Laptop; Instead, It Revealed Trump Censorship Attempts

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I have a confession. While yesterday the House Oversight Committee took up six hours (sorta, as there was a big power outage in the middle) wasting everyone’s time with a hearing on “Twitter’s Role in Suppressing the Biden Laptop Story,” I chose not to watch it in real-time. Instead, afterwards I went back and watched the video at 3x speed (and skipped over the giant power outage part), meaning I was able to watch the whole thing in less than two hours. If you, too, wish to subject yourself to this abject nonsense, I highly recommend doing something similar. Though, a better option would be just not to waste your time.

Unfortunately, the panelists — four former Twitter employees — had neither option at hand and had to sit through all of the craziness. By this point, I’m kind of used to absolutely ridiculous hearings in Congress trying to “grill” tech execs over things. They have a familiar pattern. The elected officials engage in pure grandstanding, ironically deliberately designed to try to make clips of them go viral on the very social media they’re criticizing. But this one was even worse. Honestly, the four witnesses — former deputy general counsel James Baker, former legal chief Vijaya Gadde, former head of trust & safety Yoel Roth, and a former member of the safety policy team, Anika Collier Navaroli — barely had time to say anything. Almost all of the politicians used up most of their own 5 minutes on their own grandstanding.

To the extent that they asked any questions (and this was, tragically, mostly true on both sides of the aisle, with only a few limited exceptions), they asked misleading, confused questions, and when any of the witnesses tried to clarify, or to express anything even remotely approaching nuance, the elected officials would steamroll over them and move on.

Nothing in the hearing was about finding out anything.

Nothing in the hearing was about exploring the actual issues and tradeoffs around content moderation.

Many of the Republicans wanted to just complain that their own tweets weren’t given enough prominence on Twitter. It was embarrassing. On the Democratic side, many of the Representatives (rightly) called out that the whole hearing was stupid nonsense, but that didn’t stop a few of them from pushing their own questionable theories, including the suggestion from Rep. Raskin (whose comments were mostly good, including calling out how obviously ridiculous the same panel would be if they called Fox News to explain its editorial choices) that Twitter’s failure to stop January 6th from happening was illegal or Rep. Bush’s suggestion that social media should be nationalized. On the GOP side, you had Rep. Boebert suggest that the panelists had broken the law in exercising their 1st Amendment rights, and multiple other Reps. insist over and over again — even as the panelists highlighted the contention was blatantly false — that Twitter deliberately suppressed the Biden laptop story.

Of course, if you’ve read Techdirt, you already know what the Twitter files actually showed, which was that the decision to block the links to that one story for one day was a mistake, but had nothing to do with politics, or pressure from Joe Biden or the FBI. But the hearing was extremely short on facts from the Representatives, who just kept repeating false claim after false claim.

But… the biggest reveal was actually that the Donald Trump White House demanded that Twitter remove a tweet from Chrissy Tiegen which Trump felt insulted by. Remember, in the original Twitter Files, Matt Taibbi had insisted that the Trump White House sent takedown demands to Twitter, but in all of the Twitter files since then, no one (not Taibbi or any of the others who got access) have said anything about what Trump wanted taken down. Instead, it was Navaroli who talked about how the Trump White House had complained about this tweet, and demanded Twitter take it down.

lol what a pussy ass bitch. tagged everyone but me. an honor, mister president.

That tweet was in response to Trump whining that after he signed a Criminal Justice Reform bill he didn’t get enough credit. In the short four tweet rant, Trump mentions “musician @johnlegend, and his filthy mouthed wife, are talking now about how great it is – but I didn’t see them around when we needed help getting it passed.” Tiegen then responded as seen above.

And it actually sounds like Twitter did the same thing it does with every note from anyone — government official or other — and reviewed the tweet against its policies. Apparently, there was some sort of policy that would take down tweets if there were three insults in a tweet, and so they had to analyze if “pussy ass bitch” was three insults or one giant insult (or two? I dunno). Either way, it was determined that it didn’t meet the three insult threshold and remained on the site.

Still, this certainly raises the question: in all of the “Twitter Files,” where is the release of the details about Trump getting his panties in a bunch and demanding that Tiegen’s tweet get taken down?

Now, I’m expecting that all the people in our comments who have insisted that the FBI highlighting tweets that might violate actual policies is a Constitutional violation will now admit that the former President they worship also violated the Constitution under their understanding of it… or, nah?

Speaking of the former President, Navaroli also revealed yet another way in which Twitter bent over backwards to protect Trump and other Republicans. She relayed the discussion over a tweet by Trump, in which he suggested that Congressional Representatives of color, with whom he had policy disagreements should “go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.”

At the time, Twitter’s policies had a rule against attacking immigrants, and even called out the specific phrase “go back to where you came from,” as violating that policy. Navaroli discussed how she flagged that tweet as violating the policy, but was overruled by people higher up on the team. And, soon after that, the policy was changed to remove that phrase as an example of a violation.

Now, there are arguments that could be made for why that particular tweet, in context, might not have truly violated the policy. There are also pretty strong arguments for why it did. Reasonable people can disagree, and I would imagine that there was some level of debate within Twitter. But to make that call and then soon after delete the phrase from the policy certainly suggests going the extra step not to “censor conservatives” but to give them extra leeway even as they violated the site’s policies repeatedly.

The whole thing was as parade of nonsense, and I even heard from a Republican Congressional staffer afterwards complaining about how the whole thing completely backfired on Republicans. They set out to “prove” that Twitter conspired with the US deep state to censor the Hunter Biden laptop story. And, in the end, the witnesses quite effectively debunked each point of that, while instead the key takeaway was that Trump demanded a tweet insulting himself be taken down, and Twitter explicitly changed its rules to protect Trump after he violated the rules.

Just a total shitshow all around.

But, at least I got to watch it at 3x speed.

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Anonymous Coward says:

instead the key takeaway was that Trump demanded a tweet insulting himself be taken down, and Twitter explicitly changed its rules to protect Trump after he violated the rules.

I wonder if any of the usual trolls will ever come to admit, faced with undeniable facts, over and over again, that CONSERVATIVES ARE NOT BEING CENSORED!

And even more so, sites like Twitter have shown themselves to bend over backwards just to keep the “conservatives” happy giving them no reason to claim to be the victim of liberal big-tech silencing them.

But, if anybody is do deep into the Trump side of our country, then we already know that facts are optional and they would rather live in a fantasy land where their orange turd king looks like Rambo instead of the obese slob that he is.

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Anonymous Coward says:

I only saw clips of this hearing and have come to the conclusion… these people (not the twitter execs) need serious counselling.

While the witnesses all seemed to be calm and polite, those on the committee were adversarial if not outright hostile to the witnesses.

If only there was some way to hold the committee in contempt.

Violet Aubergine says:

Re: Re:

Anger management classes can seriously help mitigate the frothing at the mouth aspect certain people have including these self serving politicians. Angry people raised by angry parents who were raised by angry parents can only think things through with anger until they learn how calm themselves down and think things through calmly. That’s what anger management teaches. No, it cannot make a lawful evil person chaotic good but it can make the lawful evil person less of an asshole in their day to day interactions.

Anonymous Coward says:

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I mean, it’s not going to work all the time for a number of reasons but it sure as hell would work better than what we’ve currently got…

That way I interpret/read this is “it probably won’t make things work, and it might make them better”. Which, in this case, sounds fairly reasonable. As long as any potential negatives are well thought out first (I’ve a big fan of thinking before acting).

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That One Guy (profile) says:

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To clarify then:

While counseling for criminals isn’t likely to work to reform all of them as some of them are in situations where they don’t see other options but crime to survive(in which case counseling isn’t likely to help but financial assistance paired with job/education assistance might), and others for one reason or another simply don’t care, it’s still almost certain to be leagues better at curbing crime and more importantly repeat crime than the ‘throw them in a cell, treat them as subhuman filth and then throw them out into a society where a criminal record makes getting back on your feet all the harder once their time is up’ that we have now(at least in the US).

Anonymous Coward says:

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I’ve always believed that the philosophical justification[1] for the existence of criminal justice systems is that they should be attempting to:
a) Prevent future “anti-social” behavior. Both from the culprit and from others.
and
b) Make reasonable attempts at restitution for problems arising in context.

If these can be achieved while inflicting less needless harm on anyone, then I think that’s an excellent thing to pursue.

[1] Note: this is the philosophical justification for the concept. Obviously various implementations have issues…. which we should be rectifying.

Anonymous Coward says:

The whole thing was as parade of nonsense, and I even heard from a Republican Congressional staffer afterwards complaining about how the whole thing completely backfired on Republicans. They set out to “prove” that Twitter conspired with the US deep state to censor the Hunter Biden laptop story. And, in the end, the witnesses quite effectively debunked each point of that, while instead the key takeaway was that Trump demanded a tweet insulting himself be taken down, and Twitter explicitly changed its rules to protect Trump after he violated the rules.

I thought their party new truth was anathema to their everything, they knew better than to let people give honest answers.

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Anonymous Coward says:

The thing that still kills me is: Even if some platform were to lean heavily against some speech-demographic and tend to negatively moderate their posts more often, then so fucking what?, as far as bloody Congress is concerned. People can have opinions about it and air them, but Congress doesn’t get to set moderation policies.

Shut the hell up, Congress. You’re drunk.

Violet Aubergine says:

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At heart I’m an optimist who has learned how to be a realist so, over the years, I’ve taught myself to be overly optimistic while accepting the nihilistic nature of reality repeatedly showing itself as horrible people win and decent ones get further marginalized. So I’m optimistic that the GOP could actually immolate itself as it gets more and more extreme but I know the historical examples aren’t in my favor but those examples also didn’t exist in this weird tech bubble that is constantly disrupting how past constraints function, disruptions that are only speeding up in frequency and severity.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

Nice own-goal idiots

Oh the hypocrisy…

Twitter takes down the links to the Laptop story because it violates their rules, something which they walk back in short order and that’s a conspiracy against conservatives!

Woke ideologue Trump demands that someone insulting him has their message removed, that message is determined to be fine according to the rules and those rules were then changed in order to retroactively turn it into a violation and yet that was perfectly fine and not at all a first amendment violation.

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Uriel-238 (profile) says:

I see one insult.

If it were three nouns, pussy, ass, bitch [camera, TV] then I could see it as three insults. Mr. President, you are a pussy, an ass, and a bitch.

But in this case, it strongly looks like Teigan is using the slang ass to express fullness (e.g. He was driving a big ass car where ass modifies big). In this case Teigan’s pussy ass means cowardly or craven.

Technically, an adjective modifying a noun still counts as one insult, but together they imply cowardice and pettiness, which are two qualities.

I’d argue that Twitter’s three-insult rule should be tightened to explicitly define what it means, e.g. three separate phrases that insult without reference to specific facts (such as an incident). Otherwise, it becomes too easy for insults to multiply or reduce in the mind of a moderator depending on their auxiliary feelings about the tweeter.

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JimmyJimmy (profile) says:

Might be worth updating your other article?

There was something interesting revealed amongst this pantomime! Roth has actually clarified in this hearing what he meant in his statement given to the FEC.

From your other article: https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/07/hello-youve-been-referred-here-because-youre-wrong-about-twitter-and-hunter-bidens-laptop/ I quote Roth:

“[F]ederal law enforcement agencies communicated that they expected ‘hack-and-leak operations’ by state actors might occur in the period shortly before the 2020 presidential election . . . . I also learned in these meetings that there were rumors that a hack-and-leak operation would involve Hunter Biden.”

When people read this, they assumed that the FBI ITSELF had warned of a hack-and-leak operation would involve Hunter Biden. As you lay out in your article, Elvis Chan would dispute this.

From the committee hearing, Roth would clarify that people were misreading the statement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quSlqj7v1no&t=20636s Roth says:

“I want to be clear that my statement to the FEC does not suggest that the FBI told me it would involve Hunter Biden; that’s a popular reading of that declaration but it was not my intent. I think there is a coincidence there and I really can’t speak as to how that came about.”

A “popular reading” that was not his “intent.”

Here’s two more moments that reinforce the same point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quSlqj7v1no&t=3952s

Q: “it is you stated that during these meetings quote federal law enforcement agencies communicated that they expected hack and leak operations by state actors that might occur in the period shortly before the 2020 presidential election likely in October and that there were quote rumors that a hack and leak operation would involve Hunter Biden post quote is that your recollection today.”

Roth answers: “it is but I want to clarify that sentence slightly I think it actually should have been two separate sentences it is true that in meetings between industry and law enforcement law enforcement discussed the possibility of a hack and Leak campaign in the lead-up to the election and in one of those meetings it was discussed I Believe by another company that there was a possibility that that hack and leak could relate to Hunter Biden and Burisma I don’t believe that perspective was shared by law enforcement they didn’t endorse it they didn’t provide that information in that.”

And also https://www.youtube.com/live/quSlqj7v1no?feature=share&t=21568

Q: “Mr Roth I want to go back to your statement in your declaration FEC: “I learned that a hack and leak operation would involve Hunter Biden.” Who did you learn that from?” [12]

Roth answers: “From my recollection it was mentioned by another technology company in one of our joint meetings, but I don’t recall specifically whom.”

So, at three different moments in the hearing, Roth highlights that the FBI did not bring up Hunter Biden. It might be worth adding these statements to your other piece: https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/07/hello-youve-been-referred-here-because-youre-wrong-about-twitter-and-hunter-bidens-laptop/

Anonymous Coward says:

Nationalize Social Media?

Nationalize Social Media? Great idea! Let’s get Congress write some laws to make the feds buy Twitter from Elon Musk.

Twitter becomes the true town hall as it has to abide to First Amendment. Elon gets what he wants with Twitter, plus some pocket change. We don’t lose anything as Elon is about to bankrupt Twitter anyway.

Republicans get all the free speech they need. I am sure they will approve a higher debt ceiling to make this happen.

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Matthew M Bennett says:

Yeah, this isn't true at all.

Who gives a fuck about Trump’s fragile ego? The hearings are revealing coordinated liberal political advocacy and caving to government demands to suppress information disfavorable to the government. Some politicians hurt feelings (in basically a private capacity) doesn’t compare to the FBI telling Twitter who to ban or CDC requesting actual doctor’s medical opinion.

Blocking the laptop story HAD EVERYTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS YOU FUCKING TWIT. Jesus fuck.

You are either watching a completely different set of hearing to the rest of us or you’re just an outright partisan (and FBI friendly) shill. Seriously, DNC “strategists” don’t even try to spin it this hard. Get fucked dude, your entire coverage on this is a disgrace.

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Strawb (profile) says:

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The hearings are revealing coordinated liberal political advocacy and caving to government demands to suppress information disfavorable to the government.

No, that’s your drugs talking.

Some politicians hurt feelings (in basically a private capacity) doesn’t compare to the FBI telling Twitter who to ban

They didn’t.

CDC requesting actual doctor’s medical opinion.

Yes, how dare they ask for expert advice!

Blocking the laptop story HAD EVERYTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS YOU FUCKING TWIT.

[hallucinates facts contrary to available evidence]

You are either watching a completely different set of hearing to the rest of us or you’re just an outright partisan (and FBI friendly) shill.

Boy, the hallucinations are going strong today.

You’re accusing Masnick of being a partisan shill while simultaneously regurgitating a partisan propaganda point about the Biden laptop story, and calling him “FBI friendly” despite pretty much every article about the FBI on this site lambasting them.

Your ignorance would be hilarious if it wasn’t so pathetic.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Who gives a fuck about Trump’s fragile ego?

Apparently, you do.

First Trump fails to save the US from the libs, then Musk fails to save Twitter from the libs.

You keep knowing how to pick winners don’t you Bratty Matty?

You would know how to get fucked, you keep shilling for Chozen’s baby batter on a regular basis.

Anonymous Coward says:

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I guess it’s easier to have hearings about shit people don’t care about than to worry about inflation, the border, fentanyl, or anything else that was at critical mass last November.

You’ll end up the same place you were after Benghazi. No convictions, nothing of value, looking like the fool. It’s what happens when all you know how to do is complain.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Blocking the laptop story HAD EVERYTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS

What’s hilarious is that you think Twitter blocking the one tweet from(/one link to) the New York Post for however long it did had the effect of “blocking” the story when, as the Streisand Effect so graciously proved, more people started talking about the story thanks to the block itself. Like, dude, how the fuck do you still think anything was “blocked” when you could still see the original story on the Post’s website and people were talking about the story on Twitter even before the block was undone?

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Matthew M Bennett says:

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Twitter blocking the one tweet from(/one link to) the New York Post

You’re downplaying the drastic nature of the action. They blocked basically all reference to it, using the same tools they use for child porn.

Whatever effect it had (and no, I don’t think it brought more attention rather than less, but that’s at least a plausible argument) is completely different than the intention which was very clearly driven by partisan politics.

Even after it was no longer blocked it aided the plausible deniability factor which led to lots of liberal asshats (like you and some of your friends) pretending until….well basically last week that the laptop still was not “verified”.

Whatever, arguing that the motivations were pure is just outright bullshit.

Anonymous Coward says:

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I’m sorry you’re a traitor to America.

No one’s arguing intent. Twitter merely blocked one tweet linking to a “domestically important” yellow journalism filth article from a site known to produce such filth, and only reinstated when they could prove that it was Hunter’s Laptop.

I’d also like to restate that even Fox News, Murdoch’s propaganda news network, the most popular news network in America, did not cover this UNTIL the NYT did. Oh, and WaPo, because Murdoch wants to pretend he supports the First Amendment.

Toom was right, I’d rather be American than Republican, and I’m not American.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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They blocked basically all reference to it,

…for a brief period of time, and during that period of time, people were still actively discussing the story on Twitter without being suspended or banned. Also, the original story was⁠—as it is even today⁠—still on the New York Post website for everyone to see. But please, keep going on and on about how the story and all discussion of it was censored on Twitter, see how far that keeps gettin’ ya here.

I don’t think it brought more attention rather than less

Hardly anyone was talking about the story until Twitter’s actions. After Twitter took action, the story (and Twitter’s actions) became the talk of the day. Hell, how big would the story have gotten if Twitter hadn’t done anything, considering that even Fox News wasn’t willing to say much about it until after Twitter did what it did?

the laptop still was not “verified”

Even if the laptop was proven to have been Hunter Biden’s (and I’m still not totally sold on that), the chain of custody is so irrevocably broken from the get-go⁠—the guy who got the laptop can’t even confirm that Hunter Biden dropped off the laptop!⁠—that any information on the laptop is tainted by that broken chain.

arguing that the motivations were pure is just outright bullshit

Arguing that the motivations were 100% political, and arguing that the political motivations were driven only by love for Biden/hatred for Trump, is also bullshit. The “Twitter Files” themselves showed a robust discussion of what to do about the story that didn’t delve into pure partisan hackery. Considering all the times you’ve kissed Elon’s ass, that you’d try to discredit journalists he personally handpicked to show off the information he personally gave to them⁠—and the information itself⁠—as being less than credible to bolster your argument is…well, it’s darkly hilarious, really.

Anonymous Coward says:

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The hearings are revealing coordinated liberal political advocacy and caving to government demands to suppress information disfavorable to the government.

And once the hearings are done, I’m betting you SJW’s will do absolutely nothing about it. Just like you did about Hillary’s email server and Benghazi. All those hearings, and nothing. Absolutely nothing.

So forgive me if I don’t make a big deal about your hearings. They’re just another means for you to complain, pretend you’re doing something, while ultimately, you do nothing.

Next election cycle, you’ll complain about the same things you did nothing about like inflation, health care, the debt, and the border. And if you do win control, you’ll go right back to your hearings and the cycle continues. It’s been like that for nearly 12 years now.

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Matthew M Bennett says:

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“the fbi paid twitter to censor!”

Well, bit of a strawman there, the FBI paid twitter for a warrantless search. ALSO a huge problem.

They just ordered them to censor.

Which is a fact based claim, btw. There were many other facts on display. You just don’t like the facts. (Masnick doesn’t either)

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