Rand Paul Is Right: Censoring The Internet Doesn’t Protect Kids

from the a-good,-clear-explanation dept

Last month, we shared the details of a really good “Dear Colleague” letter that Senator Rand Paul sent around urging other Senators not to vote for KOSA. While the letter did not work and the Senate overwhelmingly approved KOSA (only to now have it stuck in the House), Paul has now expanded upon that letter in an article at Reason.

It’s well worth the read, though the title makes the point clear: Censoring the Internet Won’t Protect Kids.

It starts out by pointing out how much good the internet can be for families:

Today’s children live in a world far different from the one I grew up in and I’m the first in line to tell kids to go outside and “touch grass.”

With the internet, today’s children have the world at their fingertips. That can be a good thing—just about any question can be answered by finding a scholarly article or how-to video with a simple search.

While doctors’ and therapists’ offices close at night and on weekends, support groups are available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, for people who share similar concerns or have had the same health problems. People can connect, share information, and help each other more easily than ever before. That is the beauty of technological progress.

He correctly admits that the internet can also be misused, and that not all of it is appropriate for kids, but that’s no reason to overreact:

It is perhaps understandable that those in the Senate might seek a government solution to protect children from any harms that may result from spending too much time on the internet. But before we impose a drastic, first-of-its-kind legal duty on online platforms, we should ensure that the positive aspects of the internet are preserved. That means we have to ensure that First Amendment rights are protected and that these platforms are provided with clear rules so that they can comply with the law.

He points out that the law empowers the FTC to police content that could impact the mental health of children, but does not clearly define mental health disorders, and those could change drastically with no input from Congress.

What he doesn’t mention is that we’re living in a time when some are trying to classify normal behavior as a mental health disorder, and thus this law could be weaponized.

From there, he talks about the “duty of care.” That’s a key part of both KOSA and other similar bills and says that websites have a “duty of care” to make efforts to block their sites from causing various problems. As we’ve explained for the better part of a decade, a “duty of care” turns itself into a demand for censorship, as it’s the only way for companies to avoid costly litigation over whether or not they were careful enough.

Just last week, I got into a debate with a KOSA supporter on social media. They insisted that they’re not talking about content, but just about design features like “infinite scroll.” When asked about what kind of things they’re trying to solve for, I was told “eating disorders.” I pointed out that “infinite scroll” doesn’t lead to eating disorders. They’re clearly targeting the underlying content (and even that is way more complex than KOSA supporters realize).

Senator Paul makes a similar point in the other direction. Things like “infinite scroll” aren’t harmful if the underlying content isn’t harmful:

For example, if an online service uses infinite scrolling to promote Shakespeare’s works, or algebra problems, or the history of the Roman Empire, would any lawmaker consider that harmful?

I doubt it. And that is because website design does not cause harm. It is content, not design, that this bill will regulate.

As for stopping “anxiety,” Paul makes the very important point that there are legitimate and important reasons why kids may feel some anxiety today, and KOSA shouldn’t stop that information from being shared:

Last year, Harvard Medical School’s magazine published a story entitled “Climate Anxiety; The Existential Threat Posed by Climate Change is Deeply Troubling to Many Young People.” That article mentioned that among a “cohort of more than 10,000 people between the ages of 16 and 25, 60 percent described themselves as very worried about the climate and nearly half said the anxiety affects their daily functioning.”

The world’s most well-known climate activist, Greta Thunberg, famously suffers from climate anxiety. Should platforms stop her from seeing climate-related content because of that?

Under this bill, Greta Thunberg would have been considered a minor and she could have been deprived from engaging online in the debates that made her famous.

Anxiety and eating disorders are two of the undefined harms that this bill expects internet platforms to prevent and mitigate. Are those sites going to allow discussion and debate about the climate? Are they even going to allow discussion about a person’s story overcoming an eating disorder? No. Instead, they are going to censor themselves, and users, rather than risk liability.

He also points out — as he did in his original letter — that the KOSA requirements to block certain kinds of ads makes no sense in a world in which kids see those same ads elsewhere:

Those are not the only deficiencies of this bill. The bill seeks to protect minors from beer and gambling ads on certain online platforms, such as Facebook or Hulu. But if those same minors watch the Super Bowl or the PGA tour on TV, they would see those exact same ads.

Does that make any sense? Should we prevent online platforms from showing kids the same content they can and do see on TV every day? Should sports viewership be effectively relegated to the pre-internet age?

Even as I’ve quoted a bunch here, there’s way more in the article. It is, by far, one of the best explanations of the problems of KOSA and many other bills that use false claims of “regulating design” as an attempt to “protect the kids.” He also talks about the harms of age verification, how it will harm youth activism, and how the structure of the bill will create strong incentives for websites to pull down all sorts of controversial content.

There is evidence that kids face greater mental health challenges today than in the past. Some studies suggest this is more because of society’s openness to discussing and diagnosing mental health challenges. But there remains no compelling evidence that the internet and social media are causing it. Even worse, as Paul’s article makes abundantly clear, there is nothing out there suggesting that censoring the internet will magically fix those problems. Yet, that’s what KOSA and many other bills are designed to do.

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Anonymous Coward says:

I hope, and I do mean I hope and pray to literally whatever god that would listen, that other lawmakers, other senators, read this and come to realize the harms KOSA would cause.

While it may not survive the court on first amendment grounds, it shouldn’t even get that far in the first place.

You can’t protect kids by sheltering them from everything that might make them feel some kind of negative emotion.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re:

Unfortunately we already know that most lawmakers will not read this.

Most lawmakers know what they know and aren’t interested in the facts. And they’re definitely not going to be talked out of a performative vote ‘for the children’.

Maybe we should pass a law to force lawmakers to pay attention to stuff like that?

Anonymous Coward says:

I pointed out that “infinite scroll” doesn’t lead to eating disorders.

But perhaps the ubiquity of fast-food and junk-food advertising has something to do with it. If people are using sites with advertisements—which I guess are the big social media sites, because ads seem to have disappeared from most of the internet—it might be a good idea to use an ad-blocker. The USDA could join the FBI in recommending that.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

I want to know what internet you’ve been using, because I’m seeing just as many ads off major platforms as I was 10 years ago.

Well, just as an example, I see three external links in this story: to Reason, Harvard Medicine Magazine, and Daily Wire. The first two don’t have ads (and I’ve got no ad-blocker), unless you count the “sign up for our newsletter” links. Daily Wire does have a banner right at the top with a picture of a person and a button to buy tickets for something; I guess I didn’t notice at first, or assumed it was just a picture of the author.

Other sites linked from the Techdirt front page with no obvious ads: bbc.com, apnews.com, edition.cnn.com, cbsnews.com, cnet.com. Except, looking closer, CNN does have the text “video ad feedback” under the first image, so I guess that’s an ad unrelated to the story (again, I assumed it was one of the athletes said to be speaking out in that story).

Anonymous Coward says:

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Figured that sounded odd, thought I’d check that myself.

Pulled up the Reason link. 10 seconds in, it looked like there were no ads. But once I started scrolling, I got a hovering banner ad at the bottom of the window, and two separate embedded video ads, one of which will detach and start hovering in the bottom right corner. Both muted so you probably just assumed they were meaningless addditional context on the article. 3 ads, And I didn’t finish the article. 2 of them hovered and had to be closed.

Harvard doesn’t appear to run ads, unsurprisingly. Their subscription button is not what i would qualify an ‘ad’, but since I include the daily wire subscribe today banner ad, you might consider the existence of the button an ad.

Daily wire however….Top of page banner ad for tickets to matt walsh film (stand up show? idk, im not watching an ad for it), hovering bottom of window subscribe now banner ad (full window width!), and 4 separate ‘advertisement’ blocks for programmatic ads.

No ads? Either you have a browser blocking something (maybe not ads, maybe the javascript?), or you have successfully trained yourself to mentally filter out ads.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:2

Either you have a browser blocking something (maybe not ads, maybe the javascript?)

Well, I’m not running Javascript. Whether you call that “blocked” or “disabled” doesn’t really matter, I suppose; it’s a fairly standard Tor Browser installation in “Safest” mode, with no extensions added.

So I guess the ad companies stopped trying to advertise to people with Javascript disabled, and none of their clients really cared? But it explains why people are so obsessed with ad-blockers.

I’ve only occasionally seen the JS-enabled web. It reminds me of the animated-GIF and marquee-tag days, when every site was constantly moving and often too distracting to be usable. If there were ads, they were just a minor part of that chaos, and weren’t the reason I disabled JS.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Well, just as an example, I see three external links in this story: to Reason, Harvard Medicine Magazine, and Daily Wire. The first two don’t have ads (and I’ve got no ad-blocker), unless you count the “sign up for our newsletter” links.

How to tell us you’re a liar without saying you’re a liar? I clicked through to the Rand Paul article on Reason, and saw the gray spaces declaring “AD” where four adverts would have been were it not for the ad blocker I’m using.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:2

I clicked through to the Rand Paul article on Reason, and saw the gray spaces declaring “AD” where four adverts would have been were it not for the ad blocker I’m using.

I see just one gray space, between the “show comments” link and the footer. It does not say “AD”, a word found only in the article itself (“gambling ads… those exact same ads”).

Referencing the other reply, I do have Javascript disabled, so that’s a plausible explanation. Some sites don’t work with it disabled, but Reason seems to; is there any benefit to letting that site run it?

ECA (profile) says:

Taking away the responsibilities?

So, who do we Sue, when the gov. Does Nothing?
When parents do nothing, there is a recourse. There are Lawyers and things to FIX, and it can be done quickly.

Our gov. has thrown its own responsibility away with every Short handed dept. Under monetized agency, Undermanned Agency. That we have now.

If our policing agencies had any power, they wouldnt NEED orders to Do the deed. Just walk into a corp See whats WRONG and Arrest the Owners and managers.
NOPE cant do that,

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Tdestroyer209 says:

I’ve read Rand Paul’s article about KOSA and even though I’m no fan of his he nailed the issues with KOSA really well.

Problem is senators like Blumenthal use bills like KOSA to act like they give a shit about the children but in reality they don’t and use that same bill to censor content in order to “protect the children”.

Plus these advocacy groups pushing for KOSA use dead children to promote the unconstitutional bill while ignoring children who are alive who have many issues with the bill (Looking at you FairPlay).

Tdestroyer209 says:

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Definitely true on that and it’s kinda wtf when they claim the dead children would be alive if KOSA were in effect today and I highly doubt that considering these neglectful parents gave them a device with unrestricted access to the internet and didn’t prepare them for what’s on the internet and instead of blaming themselves for their failure of being a parent they blame everyone else.

Tdestroyer209 says:

Re: Re: Re:2

I agree with you there.

Isolation is never a good thing for your mental health and during when I recuperated from stage 4 tongue cancer the internet kept me going and seeing all sorts of interesting stuff and such.

Seeing Blumenthal try to pass KOSA and acting like it will protect children just pisses me off like this pos is nearly 80 years old and he acts like he’s a moral savior to children but in reality he prefers using dead children to further his crusade to kill the internet like ffs.

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TKnarr (profile) says:

The good thing is that, with the Internet, today’s children have the world at their fingertips. Just about any question can be answered with a simple search.

The bad thing is that, with the Internet, today’s children have the world at their fingertips. Just about any question can be answered with a simple search.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Mexico or the Bahamas

I can drive to Mexico from here in a few hours

Or move to Florida and learn to drive a boat and go back and forth to the Bahamas to maintain a machine there

I am getting ready for prigecr 2025.

If you think their porn ban will stop at porn, you are mistaken

By having encrypted relay to either Mexico or the Bahamas, I can evade any age all censorship.

You can’t prosecute what you can’t read.

You need to prepare now for project 2025 Internet censorship by having some way to avoid censorship

Anonymous Coward says:

Re:

Jack Ma, rich Chinese businessman, member of the Communist Party of China and very famous banker within China, still got “arrested” for making very public criticisms of his Party’s economic and banking policues.

Him getting a Mullvad account on a burner phone/PC isn’t gonna change the fact that he was a public figure when he made those comments.

And that’s just one example.

Arianity says:

It’s well worth the read, though the title makes the point clear: Censoring the Internet Won’t Protect Kids.

The title mentions censorship, but most of the article is about side effects. It doesn’t really talk all that much about censorship and how it affects kids directly, for the most part.

They’re very different arguments. When it comes to KOSA specifically, there’s a lot of overlap, since KOSA fucks so many things up, but the distinction is worth making.

that the KOSA requirements to block certain kinds of ads makes no sense in a world in which kids see those same ads elsewhere:

Honestly, that’s just as much an argument to block those ads elsewhere.

Kevin P. Neal (profile) says:

Wait, so does this mean KOSA "incorporates" the DSM V?

Because if KOSA becomes law, and KOSA incorporates the DSM, then wouldn’t that mean the copyright on the DSM would be eliminated?

No one can own the law, and knowing what the DSM says would be required to know the law, so wouldn’t that imply the DSM becomes public domain?

Has anyone told the organization that maintains the DSM about this?

Anonymous Coward says:

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Because if KOSA becomes law, and KOSA incorporates the DSM…

How to tell us you lack reading comprehension without saying you lack reading comprehension? KOSA only references the DSM-5 which means you’re making a strawman argument equivalent to “This paywalled research paper references an open access paper, meaning the open access paper has to go behind a paywall.”

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Valis (profile) says:

Protecting children

If they really want to protect children, then why don’t they pass legislation regulating guns? Limiting guns will save the lives of thousands of children a year!

If they want to protect children then why don’t they feed them? Passing legislation for universal free school lunches will protect millions of children from going hungry!

If they want to protect children then why don’t they pass legislation that allows women the right to reproductive health care? Assuring women have access to reproductive health care will save thousands of children’s lives every year!

If they want to protect children then stop passing anti-LGBTQ legislation. Instead, pass legislation supporting and protecting gay and transgender kids instead of attacking them!

And most of all, if they want to protect children, then stop dropping bombs on them! Stop blowing Gazan children into bloody chunks of meat! Stop starving children in Gaza! Stop murdering children in Gaza! They don’t even need to pass new legislation, they just need to adhere to the Leahy law!

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