Our Inability To Recognize That Remixing Art Is Transformative Is Now Leading To Today’s AI/Copyright Mess

from the everything-is-a-remix,-even-ai dept

If you’ve never watched it, Kirby Ferguson’s “Everything is a Remix” series (which was recently updated from the original version that came out years ago) is an excellent look at how stupid our copyright laws are, and how they have really warped our view of creativity. As the series makes clear, creativity is all about remixing: taking inspiration and bits and pieces from other parts of culture and remixing them into something entirely new. All creativity involves this in some manner or another. There is no truly unique creativity.

And yet, copyright law assumes the opposite is true. It assumes that most creativity is entirely unique, and when remix and inspiration get too close, the powerful hand of the law has to slap people down. As such, copyright is often anti-creative. It is designed to slap down those whose creativity reveals just a little too openly how the sausage is made.

Most often, the slapping down of creativity targets marginalized creators who don’t have the power to stand up and speak out. This is why the recording industry only seemed to really get worried about copyright law locking down entire styles of music once popular white artists started getting sued.

Of course, back in the 80s and 90s, when it was mostly black hip hop artists getting sued for sampling, there was much less concern outside of specific music communities, and we’d get ridiculous court rulings that refused to consider things like fair use at all.

It would have been nice if society had taken this issue seriously back then, recognized that “everything is a remix,” and that encouraging remixing and reusing the works of others to create something new and transformative was not just a good thing, but one that should be supported. If so, we might not be in the utter shitshow that is the debate over generative art from AI these days, in which many creators are rushing to AI to save them, even though that’s not what copyright was designed to do, nor is it a particularly useful tool in that context.

However, as we’ve explained, the legacy gatekeeper middlemen (whom copyright was designed to benefit over the actual creatives) have spent so many decades pushing propaganda and nonsense about how copyright was the only tool by which creatives could protect themselves (all while using that strengthened copyright to enrich the gatekeepers, while exploiting the creatives) that many people don’t quite realize how they’re playing into the hands of the biggest companies by demanding copyright come to the rescue.

I was thinking about all of this in reading a recent piece by musicologist Toni Aittoniemi, highlighting how AI art is also a form of remix, while similarly noting that if we had properly established that remixing to create art is not only legitimate, but basically a necessary piece of how culture works, that these debates wouldn’t be so fraught.

The moral panic is largely an epistemological crisis: We don’t have a socially acceptable status for the legibility of the remix as art-in-it’s-own-right. Instead of properly appreciating the remix and the art of the DJ, the remix, or the meme cultures, we have shoehorned all the cultural properties associated onto an 1800’s sheet music publishing -based model of artistic credibility. The fit was never really good, but no-one really cared because the scenes were small, underground and their breaking the rules was largely out-of-sight. In the case of Hip-Hop music, the issues of licensing beats were pushed into the background, while the rapper took the mantelpiece of ”the original artist”. Controversies with sampling were discussed as anomalies, from which culture largely rubber-banded back into the old model.

As Aittoniemi notes, perhaps this is a chance for us to correct the wrongs of what happened with copyright in the past few decades:

I concur that the AI art tools are simply resurfacing an old problem we left behind unresolved during the 1980’s to early 2000’s. Now it’s time for us to blow the dust off these old books and apply what was learned to the situation we have at our hands now.

We should not forget the modern electronic dance music industry has already developed models that promote new artists via remixes of their work from more established artists. These real-world examples combined with the theoretical frameworks above should help us to explore a refreshed model of artistic credibility, where value is assigned to both the original artists and the authors of remixers, who use their originals to tell a new story, fitting the particular life-story of the particular viewer. Like a deejay spins just the tracks you needed to hear at that particular night of your life at that particularly important moment, the value of the experience encapsulates both the original artform and it’s application to the particular context.

To fully appreciate and integrate AI art in our culture, we cannot rely only on our established models of artistry and credibility. From what was once only a fringe endeavor of collague or plunderphonics artists, mass production tools have forged a mainstream phenomenon. This is however, not our first contact with art like this, and we do have the theoretical frameworks available to form a new class of art, if we reach just a little further into the long corridors of university libraries and humanities departments for them.

From there, the suggestion is that rather that the focus should be on the transformation and how it adds value:

Art, especially popular forms of it, has always been a lot about transformation: Taking what exists and creating something that works in this particular context. In forms of art emphasizing the distinctiveness of the original less, transformation becomes the focus of the artform instead. In electronic dance music, the songs do sound good by themself but the complete artform only becomes visible when hundreds to thousands of people assemble together in a remote location and set up a festival. In the context of the festival’s (or a techno club’s for that matter) transformation function all the artforms meet and become more than the sum of their parts. And should we then assign the transformation function artistic value itself, we can also see that the festival itself is an artform that keeps repeating and transforming previous festivals to best fit to the current particular situation, and that the repetition of this process is the lifeblood of all the artforms that make it up in return.

The process above is healthy when the transformation function adds value.

There are a lot of questions about how that would actually work in practice, but I do think this is a useful framework for thinking about some of these questions, challenging some existing assumptions, and trying to rethink the system into one that is actually helping creators and helping to enable more art to be created, rather than trying to leverage a system originally developed to provide monopolies to gatekeepers into one that is actually beneficial to the public who want to experience art, and creators who wish to make art.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Is it remix, or is it the lack of copyright protection for AI generated works that is causing the publishers to panic. Despite the existence of public domain works that they are still making money from, that seem to think that copyright is necessary for their profits. Alternatively, do the publishers see AI generated art as further eroding their control of culture by allowing more people to generate interesting art.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Is it remix, or is it the lack of copyright protection for AI generated works that is causing the publishers to panic

It’s not so much the lack of copyright protection for remixes or AI-generated works as it is the complete lack of control publishers have over them. Or rather, the inability for them to monetize it, since they can’t claim ownership over something they didn’t publish.

Which is why they’re leaning so hard on the copyright angle to fight AI works, because historically courts have been at least somewhat sympathetic to the “remixes is copyright infringement” angle. The problem with that approach is that the bulk of current AI generated art is like fanfiction: of varying levels of dubious quality and not done for profit. Going after end users is probably not going to be any more profitable for publishers as going after grandmothers was for the RIAA.

Alternatively, do the publishers see AI generated art as further eroding their control of culture by allowing more people to generate interesting art.

Oh, absolutely. I remember the days when John Smith, under his monikers of “Whatever” and “horse with no name”, bemoaned the existence of YouTube and home video editing software allowing the common folk to make content that could be published on open platforms. Publishers aren’t interested in the quantity of art being produced, just what they can profit off of.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Publishers aren’t interested in the quantity of art being produced, just what they can profit off of.

Or the quality for that matter. If people started giving millions of pixelated views to videos of paint drying, publishers are going to try to figure out a way to profit off of that. Any quality or actual “art” being published is incidental to their profit motives.

Anonymous Coward says:

The purpose of copyright, now long forgotten, was to encourage creativity and allow the creator to, briefly, prosper from the creation. Like pretty much every legal concept, copyright was redefined to be about money, but not about money for the creators, and the copyright period was extended to ridiculous periods, far beyond when the creator could enjoy the fruits of their creation. He who already has the gold gets to buy the rules…and get more gold.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Copyright is a basic tenet of fascism

Copyright is censorship. Copyright has led to US corporations controlling speech, even speech in democratic countries, like here in Africa. Even though we are the most democratic country in history, the massive military might of the USA has even forced their censorship onto us. It’s disgusting, disgraceful and vile! Stop doing it!

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Arijirija says:

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I wonder what copyright would look like if Accountancy was treated as a creative subject? (On second thoughts, don’t bother replying. If you wish to know what the world at large would look like if Accountancy was accepted as a subject in which one was encouraged to exercise one’s creative instincts, just think “the year 2008 and Financial Meltdown”.)

Anonymous Coward says:

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If you want to actually go after techbros for this, copyright law is not the means for you to go about it.

You cannot claim the copyright to something you not only had no hand in creating, but would never create out of your own volition.

People have always remixed and modified art and culture regardless of techbros. Going after the likes of Musk and Zuckerberg, at best, indicates that you are willing to go after easy targets regardless of their relevance to your cause.

Arijirija says:

In his little book “Right where you are sitting”, Robert Anton Wilson comes clean and confesses that that is exactly how he and collaborator Robert Shea came up with much of their “Illuminatus!” trilogy. After reading that I discovered the joys of emacs-based travesty generators – though there are free-standing ones as well. (This needless to say, ignores the remising that went on in the creation of works of fiction such as the Lord of the Rings, remixed from largely Old English and Old Norse sources, but surprisingly, after re-reading King Solomon’s Mines, I figured the Prof had remixed the Battle of the Five Armies from the battle scene in King Solomon’s Mines.)

Plus, there are more than enough biographies of composers that mention their inspirations aka sources, and you finish the biography with the feeling that their compositional life was one big orgy of remixing. Few of which got credited, particularly if they originated in the lower strata of society.

Rihilism says:

“There is no truly unique creativity.”

That’s simply not true. Both “original” and “derivative” art can be uniquely creative. Many works of art are built on the foundations of the work that proceeded them. Some works are truly transformative. In both cases the output can be uniquely creative and can involve unique creativity. It’s likely that there were many who preceded Shakespeare who wrote works that were similar to his. After all, there are only so many universal themes and there’s a finite numbers of words. But that does make Shakespeare any less uniquely creative?

“There are a lot of questions about how that would actually work in practice, but I do think this is a useful framework for thinking about some of these questions, challenging some existing assumptions, and trying to rethink the system into one that is actually helping creators and helping to enable more art to be created, rather than trying to leverage a system originally developed to provide monopolies to gatekeepers into one that is actually beneficial to the public who want to experience art, and creators who wish to make art.”

So that first phrase is doing a lot of work. But it’s the last sentence that has me confused. In most of these copyright discussions we are told about the onerous system that has been in place since the 1800’s. I agree that that system is flawed. We also given innumerable examples of the manner in which copyright law is used and abused. Couldn’t agree more.

But the assumption seems to be that most artists wish only for more opportunities to be creative or perhaps to be a mentor to someone that they will ask to build upon their own creation.

What most artists want is to get paid for their work without someone claiming their work and selling it themselves. They will continue to be creative regardless of whether copyright exists or not. They will continue to be creative whether or not Techdirt’s hypothetical avenues for replacing copyright with “something” come to fruition. And they will continue to be creative even if others steal their work and sell as their own. Despite it’s sordid history and abuse I don’t think the ownership part of copyright law is something that artists dislike. And I’m not clear on how telling them that no one is “uniquely creative” is going to sell them on why they should relinquish that ownership.

Mostly what I seen expressed on this website is how the copyright laws effect the public. Most of these discussions revolve around things that are copyrighted and so not accessible to the public. But the assumption is that artists and creators have a duty, of some kind, to make their work accessible to the public. I’m sorry, but no. People, companies, institutions have the right to be a dick. They have a right to share what they own in any manner they see fit. Everyone’s free to sue them and claim they don’t own it but they’re not obligated in any way to share it if they do own it just like you’re not obligated to share your property just because it might be beneficial to someone else.

Techdirt makes good points about how great it would be if everyone had free access and use of everything on the internet. I don’t disagree. What Techdirt does not explain is how relinquishing control over their own work would make artist’s lives easier other the character building they’d accomplish by overcoming their selfishness and unwillingness to share for the public good, followed by a kumbaya to a “free and open internet”, and a hand wave in the direction of “EVEN MORE CREATIVITY” for artists.

Ninjasaid (profile) says:

“Copyright and Fair Use: Copyright laws vary by jurisdiction, but they generally grant creators exclusive rights to their original works. Fair use provisions, however, allow limited use of copyrighted material for purposes such as criticism, commentary, education, and transformative works. Determining whether a specific use constitutes fair use can be subjective and context-dependent.”

This might not even need fair use because infringement hasn’t occurred at all.

“If an AI creates content that is heavily influenced by existing works, is it truly original?”

This post says nothing we do is truly original. Not sure why we should hold AI to higher standards.

“Additionally, who holds the copyright when AI creates something?”

this was already answered by the courts not long ago, it’s public domain unless you added your own touch to it.

Wait a minute, was this text generated by ChatGPT?

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