Somehow Missing From The Official ‘Twitter Files’: Twitter Had To Continually Respond To Trump’s & GOP Officials’ Demands For Taking Down Tweets

from the something's-missing,-elon dept

So, we already noted that Wednesday’s House Oversight Committee’s grandstanding hearing about Twitter revealed how Trump’s White House asked Twitter to remove a tweet from Chrissy Teigen that mocked the then president by calling him a “pussy ass bitch.” Apparently Trump’s fragile ego couldn’t handle that level of insult, and so he had to ask for it to be taken down.

Soon after that came out, Rolling Stone released a report, quoting a variety of former Twitter employees and Trump officials, noting that this was a regular thing from Republican officials in both Congress and the White House.

But former Trump administration officials and Twitter employees tell Rolling Stone that the White House’s Teigen tweet demand was hardly an isolated incident: The Trump administration and its allied Republicans in Congress routinely asked Twitter to take down posts they objected to — the exact behavior that they’re claiming makes President Biden, the Democrats, and Twitter complicit in an anti-free speech conspiracy to muzzle conservatives online.

“It was strange to me when all of these investigations were announced because it was all about the exact same stuff that we had done [when Donald Trump was in office],” one former top aide to a senior Trump administration official tells Rolling Stone. “It was normal.”

The article does note that some powerful Democrats made similar requests, and Twitter set up a sort of “database” of requests from thin-skinned politicians. The report notes that these very same Republicans who are running around insisting that the FBI flagging some tweets for Twitter to review under its own policies… were doing the exact same thing:

But during both the Trump and Biden presidencies, these types of moderation requests or demands were routinely sent to Twitter by the staff of influential GOP lawmakers — ones with names like Kevin McCarthy and Elise Stefanik.

Oftentimes, requests would demand Twitter stop “shadowbanning” certain conservative accounts, or that the company reinstate banned or suspended right-wing personas. Other times, offices of senior Trump administration officials would send emails seeking to remove tweets that they believed to be “hate speech” or death threats aimed at their principals. And over the years, the knowledgeable sources say, staffers for Republican officials would regularly flag to Twitter content that they believed violated the app’s terms of service or other policies, including on spreading “misinformation” or “disinformation.”

Now, as we’ve explained over and over again, simply flagging content as potentially violating the rules is not a problem, so long as there is no coercion or threats of coercion associated with it. Where one draws the line on that is at least somewhat complicated, but the simple fact is that the very same GOP that is whining about this… was apparently as active, if not more so, in doing the same damn things.

Most people would call that hypocritical.

The obvious irony here is, the sources note, that Republican leaders and elected officials have long been committing precisely the kind of “government interference” that they are now investigating, fundraising off of, and accusing Democrats and the so-called anti-Trump “Deep State” of perpetrating. Some of the loudest conservative and MAGA voices on Capitol Hill — who’ve been endlessly demanding taxpayer-funded, high-profile investigations into Big Tech “bias” and “collusion” — were themselves engaged in the behavior they now claim is colluding.

And, again, all of this seems to raise questions about why none of these requests from Republicans seem to be showing up in any of Elon Musk’s Twitter files?

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

all of this seems to raise questions about why none of these requests from Republicans seem to be showing up in any of Elon Musk’s Twitter files

Given the political leanings of the people who were handed the information and the ostensible political leanings of the person who handed over that information, the question has an easier answer than one might think.

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Bloof (profile) says:

Elon wanted to provide fuel for the rightwing outrage machine, but he put as much thought into it as he did everything else he’s done at Twitter. He didn’t think there’d be any pushback from the former employees he’s thrown under the bus and no additional information made public when they’re questioned by politicians trying to get their 5 minutes on Fox.

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Kevin A. Carson (user link) says:

Well, who’d have guessed Elon was a grifting liar, Taibbi was a hack performing as a “journalist,” and everyone who thought there was anything of significance to the “Twitter Files” was a gullible idiot? Not me, that’s for sure.

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Anon E Mouse says:

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I think there was plenty of significant things in the Twitter Filers. Things like politicians getting preferential treatment regardless of party or nation, and whitelists of do not apply normal rules to these people accounts. Fascinating little windows to how things were ran.

But what was notably missing was everything Elon claimed would be there.

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Chozen (profile) says:

“Somehow Missing From The Official ‘Twitter Files’”

It was literally within hte 1st 10 tweets of the Twitter Files you lying fuck!

Matt Taibbi
@mtaibbi
10.Both parties had access to these tools. For instance, in 2020, requests from both the Trump White House and the Biden campaign were received and honored. However:
2:58 PM · Dec 2, 2022

You just lie through you teeth and your misfits eat it up.

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Bloof (profile) says:

Re: Both sides are bad, now let me tell you why only democrats are bad.'

That However is important: Taibbi would go on to go on to claim that the democrat requests were honoured more because of political bias because nobody who donated to a democrat candidate is capable of treating a republican fairly, when in reality it was because Trump and other republicans were making requests because celebrities and anonymous cow twitter accounts hurt their feelings which is a pretty big lie by omission. Mention what the democrat requests were so the story he was recruited by Elon to tell can be told, and don’t mention at all that the requests from the right ranged from the absurd to flat out censorship that would not be honoured by any fair minded individual whatever the political persuasion of the person making them.

‘Oh my gosh, why won’t Twitter censor the twitter accounts of celebrities that hurt Donald Trump’s feelings?! It’s political bias! Something, something free speech, something something first amendment!’

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Funny how Taibbi and crew has never, not once, described any of those requests from the Trump White House, though?

Doesn’t that strike you as notable?

Mike called it out in his post about Taibbi’s first Twitter files, as did many others. And yet Taibbi has never documented any of them

It seems like that is what this article is calling out.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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From Masnick’s immediately prior article:

“Remember, in the original Twitter Files, Matt Taibbi had insisted that the Trump White House sent takedown demands to Twitter, but in all of the Twitter files since then, no one (not Taibbi or any of the others who got access) have said anything about what Trump wanted taken down.”

I suppose he could’ve stood to reiterate the point for the people with goldfish memories, though.

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David says:

It's not hypocritical if you are the good guys.

Rules are for keeping the bad guys in check.

It’s ok if the good guys show initiative. Like they did on January 6th. With a bit more pizzaz, they might have fixed the voting and counting errors of dozens of million unpatriots.

I can’t wait to see what the committee on government weaponisation will turn up.

HotHead says:

Re: Re: I don't need to call Poe for this one.

David is not being sarcastic. I’m not going to give the benefit of the doubt to the combination of “…show initiative. Like they did on January 6th” + “dozens of million unpatriots” + “I can’t wait to see what the committee on government weaponisation will turn up”.

You can’t call someone an “unpatriot” for voting the wrong way and simultaneously call the vote a “counting error”.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:2 A possible explanation

An accident retroactively disguised as intentional. Or to be specific, a poorly veiled belief that it is morally okay to change the votes of people who disagree with you, that such votes left unchanged are errors.

And even if you later convince me that you aren’t a troll, keep in mind that once your pretending crosses a line, you aren’t merely pretending to be a jerk: you are a jerk. Use sarcasm tags if you’re worried.

Call me trigger happy, call me HotHead, but I hope you’ll forgive me if I overreact about January 6, 2021.

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Matthew M Bennett says:

This was actually in the Twitter Files

Not Teagan specifically, but they noted requests came from the RNC and Trump administration as well as DNC and lots and lots of federal agencies. None of it as nefarious as that coming from the FBI, really. As the Twitter files noted, however, requests from liberal sources were much more likely to be honored. But why you lying? This is just more gaslighting. This was clearly mentioned.

RNC and DNC are private orgs, actually, and not a 1st ammendment issue, tho Twitter should also have told them to go screw. And Trump and other politicians whining that their ego is hurt is a lot less nefarious (as it is clearly on their personal capacity, not official) then the FBI making “requests” that carry assumed threats and the CDC demanding the suppression of “medical information” most of which turned out to be true.

You’re just fucking lying Masnick, you’re an FBI shill covering for actual totalitarian suppression while trying to pretend that’s equivalent to what amounts to petty gossip. What a fuckhead.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Your unwillingness to think beyond your own point of view detracts from your credibility, Mike. Not to mention your apparent unfamiliarity with the science of embryology. You seem to believe it’s okay for a pregnant woman to kill her unborn child because she doesn’t want it despite it being a unique and genetically distinct human being from the moment of conception.

Do you even know what the procedure involves? I doubt you have much, if any, firsthand experience with it and are only coming to your views from a position of idealism which conveniently ignores the brutal reality of the practice. And yes, dismemberment is brutal.

You also don’t seem to realize that there are other options for women who don’t feel they can care for their babies besides killing them. Why do you and others keep insisting that abortion is the only way? Especially when they get almost no support?

The pro-“choice” movement is really about abortion industry profits and nothing else. The alleged choice and freedom are just catchwords used to snare the gullible. I thought you knew better than that. Yet you conveniently fail to apply the same standards of examination and careful thought to them as you do to other things. As if you don’t want to examine the issue too closely.

You don’t have to be religious to be against abortion – that’s a myth perpetuated by supporters of the practice. The reality is that many people, both secular and those of faith, are against it. And rightfully so.

I think you’d agree that the government has a duty to protect the innocent, to prevent such lives from being taken, yes? So, then, by extension, you should also accept that the innocent in question must by definition also include unborn children, who by their very nature cannot defend themselves.

The real question is, Mike, do you believe that an unborn child is human? Yes or no? And if yes, then supporting the murder of such a child (abortion) is wrong no matter the supposed reason for it. Ending a life simply because the mother finds it inconvenient is the height of callousness.

Also, personal freedom ends when it endangers the life and health of another. I think you would agree with this. So why do you apply it elsewhere and yet conveniently not here?

Nearly 80% of women who see an ultrasound of their baby don’t go through with an abortion, did you know that? Because it shows the truth of what they’re contemplating, that what’s inside them is not some clump of cells but rather a living, developing human baby.

You talk often about seeing through propaganda and bias yet fail to apply that principle to the abortion industry and how you view it. I suggest you change that, take a long, hard look at yourself, and ask yourself why you rail against some forms of propaganda while conveniently ignoring others (like those of the abortion industry) when they conform to your biases.

You are human, therefore you can be wrong. Thus, logically, this means that you can be wrong in your position on abortion. If you have any honesty in you at all, you’ll seriously and publicly consider that possibility.

We don’t have the right to choose to harm people or violate their human rights. We don’t have the right to kill innocent human beings. And if that’s what abortion does (which, whether you want to admit it or not, it does), then there is no right to abortion. Abortion is not freedom.

Some people say that the practice frees women to do what they want. But the reality is quite different. And the desire for that “freedom” doesn’t justify taking an innocent life.

We don’t think that infanticide should be legal in order to free parents to live the way they want to live. Human infants have human rights. That’s why infanticide is unjust. If human embryos and fetuses have rights too, then so is abortion.

Nor does abortion provide the liberation some might imagine. A meta-analysis in the British Journal of Psychiatry concludes that abortion increases the risk of mental health problems—including anxiety, depression, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, and suicidal behavior—by 81 percent.

“There is a tremendous sadness and loneliness in the cry ‘A woman’s right to choose,'” author Frederica Mathewes-Green once wrote. “No one wants an abortion as she wants an ice-cream cone or a Porsche. She wants an abortion as an animal, caught in a trap, wants to gnaw off its own leg.”

That’s not freedom. Freedom is found when—through practical support and positive alternatives—a woman never feels like abortion is her only choice.

Defenders of abortion often appeal to a more specific kind of freedom—bodily freedom. Pregnant women, they say, have a right to decide what happens inside their own bodies.

Bodily autonomy is important, but that autonomy must also respect the bodies of others. That’s why we don’t think pregnant women should take substances that cause birth defects. Someone else’s body is at stake.

If unborn children are valuable human beings, then harming them by causing birth defects is wrong. And killing them through abortion is even worse.

Another autonomy argument contends that pregnant women should have the freedom to decline to provide bodily support to their unborn children. After all, we typically aren’t required to provide assistance to anyone else.

But parents do seem to bear responsibility for supporting their own children. And, in any case, abortion isn’t like declining to provide help. Abortion is intentional killing, and it’s usually an active attack on the bodily integrity of that human being, often through a brutal process of dismemberment.

If unborn children have human rights, then killing and dismembering them via abortion is a serious human rights violation.

Whether every human being matters is what the abortion debate is really about.

So again, Mike. Do you believe that an unborn child is human? Yes or no? And if yes, then you must accept that such a child has human rights that must be respected. This isn’t a matter of religion. It’s a matter of principle and humanity. So let’s hear your answer. No caveats, no qualifications. Simply yes or no.

https://www.mccl.org/post/abortion-isn-t-freedom-why-autonomy-arguments-for-abortion-dodge-the-real-issue

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Do you believe that a woman is a human? Yes or no? If yes, then you must accept that such a woman has human rights which must be respected. This isn’t a matter of religion. It’s a matter of principle and humanity. So let’s hear your answer. No caveats, no qualifications. Simply yes or no.

Joe Schmoe says:

Re: Typical

Of course someone who doesn’t believe that women shouldn’t be able to control their own bodies can’t even post his overly long, ranting screed on the right article. “I don’t know how this happened” they says, as if making a stupid mistake is impossible for someone of their calibre of intellect… actually hilarious, though I doubt you will see the irony.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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I think you’d agree that the government has a duty to protect the innocent

Oh sure, as it leaves migrants with children out in the streets to fend for themselves. The government has no duty to protect. That’s a myth they’ve gone to court and argued against many times.

Whether every human being matters is what the abortion debate is really about.

Except the ones that get the death penalty. In states that are anti-abortion, no less. Those human beings seem to not matter.

But you keep right on going with your altruistic bullshit, where taking away a woman’s autonomy is somehow ‘freedom.’ Nobody’s buying it, and that’s why it’s a failing argument.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Nah, you don’t matter. You boring ass straight whites have done nothing but constantly pollute the gene pool. You treat your women so shittily they dive for the BBCs and lesbians and shemales each and every time. Each and every time you open your mouth it’s to be a goddamn loser.

The new world order is coming and there’s nothing you can do to stop it.

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