Re: Re: Re: Exciting reading, but I don't get your point.
"...but this is the data that "they" will work with."
This is the sad truth of how things are. Luckily, some people call these organizations on their bogus statistics as evidenced by one of the Ars Technica writers who examined some RIAA stats on musicians:
Dumping perceived "non-essentials" seems to be a really bad habit for larger corporations.
The same thing happened to several of the big record labels when they cut the promotions and artist development departments. I don't think it's a coincidence that at the same time, music quality began to decline as well.
Or they're really trying to set a precedent to ruin the DMCA safe harbors. That would mean they could go back to padding their wallets with lawsuit money instead of, you know, creating quality content.
Lowestofthekeys (profile), Mar 27th, 2013 @ 9:58am
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I agree and good point.
Chan was quoted as saying: "To be honest with you, I made some stupid posts," Chan told us. "It was certainly unprofessional. I'll be the first to admit it" (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/i-made-some-stupid-posts-anti-troll-site-gagged-after-th reats-against-poet/), which was certainly big of him to do.
Though that doesn't change his original comments, Ellis' escalated response was completely unnecessary. She basically used the courts to file a restraining order and have the content taken down.I don't think that is it's intended use.
Lowestofthekeys (profile), Mar 20th, 2013 @ 6:49am
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Yes, it's a lot of instances of infringement, but that doesn't mean those instances resulted in lost sales. That's my point, but you missed it because you're tangled in your anti-techdirt agenda and refuse to see the details.
Lowestofthekeys (profile), Mar 19th, 2013 @ 12:42pm
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"The woman spelled out in no uncertain terms the economic hardships caused by piracy..."
Here's a tidbit from one of her Huffington Post Articles:
"Those who finance films generally don't view LGBT storylines as box office winners. As a result, filmmakers who want to tell these stories often turn to creative forms of financing. The process can be a long and brutal one."
So using your logic of just "assuming shit", I could say she's losing money from the possible scenarios:
a. Indie filmmakers are experiencing economic hardships like everyone else
b. Indie filmmakers are not going to her to have their films released
c. Popularity of LGBT movies is in decline
d. Wolfe Releasing is losing money to piracy
Any one of these things could be happening and they all effect her business. There may even be a combination of events, but piling it all on piracy is asinine, especially when it feeds your anti-techdirt agenda.
Lowestofthekeys (profile), Mar 19th, 2013 @ 12:26pm
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Wow, you're an idiot. Then again, it makes sense as you seem to completely believe her claim on piracy.
Then again, that's easy enough, right? You don;t have to improve anything if you can blame the downturn of your revenue on something you can;t control.
Lowestofthekeys (profile), Mar 19th, 2013 @ 12:13pm
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Yeah bob because treating matters that could be used in litigation "easy" is a smart move for a company that's already been sued by Viacom for copyright infringement.
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Maybe things have changed, but that was last August.
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Re: Re: As usual, Misleading Mike reads only what fits his template.
I mean, the careful craft of blue's repressed bromance notes scream unrequited love.
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Well, good luck with that.
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Re: Re: Re: Exciting reading, but I don't get your point.
This is the sad truth of how things are. Luckily, some people call these organizations on their bogus statistics as evidenced by one of the Ars Technica writers who examined some RIAA stats on musicians:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/10/have-we-lost-41-percent-of-our-musicians-de pends-on-how-you-the-riaa-count/
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Where exactly did he make excuses?
I'm not being facetious, I'm just trying to wade through your bullshit.
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That or they buy up companies that make great games and subsequently ruin the game franchise by being greedy i.e. mass effect 3.
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The same thing happened to several of the big record labels when they cut the promotions and artist development departments. I don't think it's a coincidence that at the same time, music quality began to decline as well.
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Then again, I can imagine them actually doing that.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mike downplays key point of "red flag" knowledge.
That's a huge assumption. If a company like Veoh takes down authorized content without knowing they're liable to get sued.
As a side note, your analogy of Sam's Club fails because Sam's Club doesn't operate on user-generated content.
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Chan was quoted as saying: "To be honest with you, I made some stupid posts," Chan told us. "It was certainly unprofessional. I'll be the first to admit it" (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/i-made-some-stupid-posts-anti-troll-site-gagged-after-th reats-against-poet/), which was certainly big of him to do.
Though that doesn't change his original comments, Ellis' escalated response was completely unnecessary. She basically used the courts to file a restraining order and have the content taken down.I don't think that is it's intended use.
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Here's a tidbit from one of her Huffington Post Articles:
"Those who finance films generally don't view LGBT storylines as box office winners. As a result, filmmakers who want to tell these stories often turn to creative forms of financing. The process can be a long and brutal one."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kathy-wolfe/piracy-profiteers-time-to_b_1210132.html
So using your logic of just "assuming shit", I could say she's losing money from the possible scenarios:
a. Indie filmmakers are experiencing economic hardships like everyone else
b. Indie filmmakers are not going to her to have their films released
c. Popularity of LGBT movies is in decline
d. Wolfe Releasing is losing money to piracy
Any one of these things could be happening and they all effect her business. There may even be a combination of events, but piling it all on piracy is asinine, especially when it feeds your anti-techdirt agenda.
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Then again, that's easy enough, right? You don;t have to improve anything if you can blame the downturn of your revenue on something you can;t control.
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Re: Re: To Tim it's academic: to her and employees, it's LOST income.
Without any evidence to back this up, I'd more willing to assume she's just having financial issues...like every other company.
It seems like piracy is just an easy excuse.
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Re: If only DMCA notices were easy to send
Oooh right...you're the one who doesn't in the abuse of the current DMCA system.