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   Anonymous Coward, Oct 6th, 2010 @ 1:59am

   
   

   I hope oracle can build new bridges as quickly as it burns them.

    

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   Anonymous Coward, Oct 6th, 2010 @ 2:23am

   
   

   Google is going full ahead against the suit, including demands for return of cost claiming the case is "exceptional" (baseless).

    

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   Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Oct 6th, 2010 @ 4:35am

   
   

   Oracle Self-Destruction

   Oracle seem to be on a mission to destroy all the value in the open-source acquisitions they got as part of Sun: from the mass defections of OpenOffice, the extermination of OpenSolaris, and the uncertainties around MySQL, how it seems they want to antagonize what few Java loyalists are left.
   
   They haven’t realized that they cannot kill an open-source project; they can only kill their own stake in it. MySQL and OpenOffice have already forked. As for this lawsuit, I expect them to come under pressure from their own customers; many of them would be using open source, and at least some of those will have realized that this is a direct attack on their freedom of choice of competing products.
   
   Let’s see how long this nonsense continues once it starts to have a negative impact on the company’s bottom line.

    

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   Kingster (profile), Oct 6th, 2010 @ 5:24am

   
   

   Re: Oracle Self-Destruction

   As a personal Linux/MySQL/Tomcat user, and a corporate Solaris/Oracle/Weblogic user... I can't wait for Oracle to choke on the Sun acquisition. I've hated them from day one, with their craptastic support system (Sun wasn't much better, mind you), and the mightier-than-thou attitude that they've always taken.

    

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   out_of_the_blue, Oct 6th, 2010 @ 5:57am

   
   

   "While I don't think that actually matters from a legal perspective"

   Then why the devil is Google or you bringing up the point? Of course the previous attitude of a party matters to any reasonable jury, besides public opinion. Perhaps you're saying that legalistic weenies would ignore the point, but that only proves why juries are selected from the people, not those who serve the legal guild.

    

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   Anonymous Coward, Oct 6th, 2010 @ 7:20am

   
   

   Re: Oracle Self-Destruction

   > MySQL and OpenOffice have already forked.
   
   OpenSolaris has already forked too, as Illumos.

    

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   Anonymous Coward, Oct 6th, 2010 @ 10:02am

   
   

   Does Oracle have to finish what Sun Started?

   While Oracle may have changed its position (as Google claims), haven't its responsibilities (e.g. to the JCP and licensees) changed legally? Wasn't Sun already engaged in this issue?
   
   Does Oracle have responsibilities to other members of the JCP.org and to licensees to maintain the terms of the license? When Google forked the code base, they not only harmed Oracle, they impacted every other licensee.
   
   I'm interested to hear Mike's perspective on what responsibilities Oracle might have to other licensees? Nothing? Everything?

    

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