Good News: Violating Terms Of Service Is Not Hacking; Bad News: Circumventing Weak Tech Blocks Might Be
from the some-good,-some-bad dept
We've been covering the ridiculous lawsuit that Facebook has been pursuing against Power.com for a while now, specifically worrying about how, if Facebook prevailed, it could mean that violating an online terms of service in accessing your own data, could make you a criminal. That outcome seemed ridiculous, but the way Facebook read federal computer fraud statutes, it was possible. Thankfully, the court has shot down that argument.
But it's not all good news. In the same ruling, the court did say that Power.com (an aggregator of data from various social networks) still may have violated computer hacking laws by changing its IP address. That's because Facebook had blocked Power.com's old IP address to try to block the site from accessing user account data. As the EFF explains:
In other words, it may be a crime to circumvent technological barriers imposed by a website, even if those measures are taken only to enforce the terms of service through code. There's nothing inherently wrong or unlawful about avoiding IP address blocking, and there are valid reasons why someone might choose to do so, including to sidestep anticompetitive behavior by other Internet services. As long as an end user is authorized to access a computer and the way she chooses doesn't cause harm, she should be able to access the computer any way she likes without committing a crime.Of course, given the way the DMCA handles circumvention for copyright (it's not legal even if for legal uses), perhaps there's some precedent for this kind of ridiculous, totally counter-intuitive outcome.
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Can people look at the software used in medical equipment to make sure it is safe? would that be a crime?
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One could peel off the sticker with no effort (in order to show it to somebody and say "what's this supposed to be?") and they've magically broken the law with no effort on their part.
There's a word for that, it's called "entrapment" if you're a law-dog, or a "shake down" if you're a mafioso. Both are, allegedly, illegal.
Therefore, logically, slapping an entirely ineffective lock on something is "entrapment" and bitching to your congress-lapdog about how it's not working deserves a bitch-slap and a "buy a real fucking lock" NOT new laws to make circumventing your pathetic excuse for "security" even more illegal.
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Likewise, I challenge anyone to prove that the tooth fairy *doesn't* exist.
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Good news on the other part of the ruling though.
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You don't even have to go that far to implement a technical restriction. The mere omission of a "download" button does it. Obviously, if a web page wanted to allow downloads it would have one. Using a software circumvention tool, whether it's DECSS or the "save" feature of Firefox is then clearly a DMCA violation. There has even been discussion in some circles of prohibiting the distribution of browsers in the US with "save" features on the grounds that they are circumvention devices. Future browser versions for distribution in the US would then come without a "save" capability.
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Source citation please!
I find this level of idiocy very interesting....
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with the (intended sarcastically) "I challenge" statement, the evidence is included. It is a simple contradiction. We are not talking bout hacking, but about circumventing protection methods. The original argument was that it isn't circumvention because of the ease in which protection method was circumvented. A contradiction.
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DRM is a wax seal
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