IFPI Complains That Canada's New Copyright Bill Not Draconian Enough

from the make-it-worse! dept

Perhaps not a surprise, but Michael Geist points us to the news that the IFPI is complaining that Canada's new copyright bill doesn't go far enough in protecting its obsolete business model:
"The publishing of this bill is only the beginning of a process, and some of its provisions must be amended in order to bring Canada in line with its international treaty obligations as well as evolving international norms. As it is, it simply does not go far enough to protect creators and producers in the digital environment."
This is despite the fact that Canada already has numerous draconian copyright provisions, extremely limited exceptions and a blank media tax that already assumes most Canadians are criminals. But, this is the recording industry we're talking about. They won't be satisfied until absolutely everything it doesn't control is locked down.


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    Simon, Jun 10th, 2010 @ 5:38am

    The IFPI really do want to bomb us back into the dark ages.

     

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    fogbugzd (profile), Jun 10th, 2010 @ 6:02am

    P2P still isn't a capital crime

    IFPI will continue to demand more and more protection until saying "P2P" is a capital offense.

    Of course, none of these laws are going to make people buy more music CD's. The lack of laws does allow IFPI to continue to justify its existence and give industry execs a scapegoat for running their businesses into the ground.

     

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    out_of_the_blue, Jun 10th, 2010 @ 6:04am

    "obsolete business model"

    To the contrary, what IFPI is setting up is tried and true: a government granted and enforced monopoly. Works for Major League Baseball, National Football League, doctors, lawyers, and probably for the Rutabaga Association if we but knew details. So don't expect them to fail anytime soon.

    It's *you* who haven't got your "models" right. We no longer live in a country where civil rights are even preserved; those are all being monetized in standard statist ways: prisons, police, "security" agencies, copyright holders with granted "rights" that the government enforces, all rely on unlimited force being turned against individuals.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 10th, 2010 @ 6:12am

    "IFPI Complains That Canada's New Copyright Bill Not Draconian Enough"

    If you give a thief an inch he will take a mile. A criminal always wants more. No amount of legislative subsidies is enough to satisfy these criminals.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 10th, 2010 @ 6:15am

    Re: "obsolete business model"

    "Works for Major League Baseball, National Football League, doctors, lawyers, and probably for the Rutabaga Association if we but knew details."

    Of course, monopolies work for the monopolist. I would love a monopoly on the sale of hamburgers. Do you know who it doesn't work for though? The consumer.

     

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    Dark Helmet (profile), Jun 10th, 2010 @ 6:21am

    Okay...

    I'm finding it hard to conjure up much anger today (given where I'm from, you can probably guess why!), but let me give it a shot:

    "The publishing of this bill is only the beginning of a process, and some of its provisions must be amended"

    Interesting. I've never actually heard an evil motherfucker come right out and SAY they were engaged in a feature creep. Awesome. Because that's all this can be. You draft and pass legislation based on a negotiated medium between many sides and many other sides....and then one side says, "this is only the start, we're going to change much of this to the way we want it"? WTF? What would they say if those representing consumer rights said, "Yeah, this bill passed, but no worries cuz we're going to strike most of this bullshit in a couple of years"?

    "to bring Canada in line with its international treaty obligations"

    BWHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAH.....ass hats....

    "as well as evolving international norms."

    Sigh, sanity, finally! That's what international law SHOULD be, a representation and enforcement of what is normal throughout the world. Which means, of course, that copyright laws should be reviewed and mostly gutted, because the international norm is for people with the means to do so to pirate music, movies, and games.

    "As it is, it simply does not go far enough to protect creators and producers in the digital environment."

    Back to the feature creep, because otherwise they never would have signed on to this supposedly inadequate law.

    Okay, enough anger, I've got a parade to prepare for tomorrow. Wait...what's that next story coming up? an H1N1 government and industry collusion on a level far beyond Rumsfeld and his FDA bullshit? Uh oh....

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 10th, 2010 @ 6:53am

    Re: Re: "obsolete business model"

    "I would love a monopoly on the sale of hamburgers."

    You've probably innocently mentioned a wish that set me off, so I'm going to violate my own rule of not commenting more than once a day on a topic. -- And to an Anonymous Coward.

    Your longing for a monopoly is reprehensible. It's stating you wish government *force* to be used against your fellow humans for your *unearned* benefit. I could go on, but doubt that you're serious. -- However, others *are* serious and actually *do* more than wish, and if successful, overcome all civilized inclinations so that conscience doesn't nag them, and turn blind eyes to the suffering they inflict. Money and power are corrupting, and doesn't take much of either to be *absolutely* corrupted.

    As said, I'm a Populist. I only want reasonable limits placed on what I *know* by all human history are corrupting to anyone's soul, and consequently, a direct hazard to me and all decent people who just want to *trade* labor with equals, not be exploited for the gain of a few who crave only POWER. History is mostly a record of tyranny. We've been living in *the* most unusual period of human history ever, due to freedom won from tyrants, but new ones (and many of the old ones) are now turning otherwise wonderful technology into computerized control of slaves.

     

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    Steve R. (profile), Jun 10th, 2010 @ 7:18am

    Re: Okay...

    Dark Helmet beat me to "international norms". As an add on, what about the consumers rights? Seems that the discussion of international treaty obligations and international norms is based on the faulty premise that only the content creators have any so-called "rights". The reality is that the content creators have been lobbying the government(s) to continue to strip the consumer of their rights. So - until the consumer is stripped of all rights; existing law is out of "norm" and unjust? Give me a break.

     

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    Comboman (profile), Jun 10th, 2010 @ 7:22am

    Re: Okay...

    I'm finding it hard to conjure up much anger today (given where I'm from, you can probably guess why!)

    By any chance are you from Chicago? Congratulations. Hey maybe the Cubs will win the world series too? :-)

     

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    Dark Helmet (profile), Jun 10th, 2010 @ 7:24am

    Re: Re: Okay...

    Yes, from Chicago, and what's awesome is that my office is about 3 blocks from where the parade is going to start. Tomorrow is going to be ridiculous....

     

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    Mike, Jun 10th, 2010 @ 7:44am

    Who cares?

    As if they have any actual power over us. What if we don't meet "international standards"? They can't keep the movies from us, we have the internet.

     

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    Jeff Rivett (profile), Jun 10th, 2010 @ 7:47am

    A thought experiment

    Whenever I read this kind of thing, I try to imagine what the world would be like if these bozos got everything they wanted. The only real winners in the resulting Orwellian landscape would be - as usual - lawyers. Every other person would be a lawyer. ::shudders::

     

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    Sean T Henry (profile), Jun 10th, 2010 @ 7:51am

    I think this sums it up

    John Jackson: "I say your three cent titanium tax goes too far."
    Jack Johnson: "And I say your three cent titanium tax doesn't go too far enough."
    -Futurama

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 10th, 2010 @ 8:32am

    i say

    FUCK OFF
    fic your own regions problems and don't interfere

    I vote we have new lobbying law that anytime a foreign organization mouths off like this , we execute all people they are associated with....yea GREEN PEACE it also means you

    only canucks have a say in there own affairs, so once again

    FUCK OFF

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 10th, 2010 @ 8:35am

    what intenet spee ddid you have 14 years ago in canada

    me
    675Kbytes down and 400Kbytes up with rogers

    its of course unlimited but now today what do we have ?

    500Kbytes and 80Kbytes upspeed


    canada is doing far less and when you consider were a meager nation of 33 million
    ifpi is all so upset at us when they have 500 million and th eusa has 350 million

    take all there "pirates" combines and it prolly more then canada total population times 5

     

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    crade (profile), Jun 10th, 2010 @ 10:56am

    Well, the major labels aren't getting saved, so obviously we haven't gone far enough on restrictions, punishment, and monitoring.. right?

     

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    Chuck Norris' Enemy (deceased) (profile), Jun 10th, 2010 @ 11:54am

    Re: Re: Re: Okay...

    Sorry to rain on your parade.

     

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    kellythedog (profile), Jun 10th, 2010 @ 12:58pm

    "At a news conference to announce publication of the Bill, Industry Minister Tony Clement said: "From the computations that we've done, (piracy) destroys billions of dollars of value per year."

    I would like to know what Phantom mathematics they use to get those numbers.

     

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    packrat (profile), Jun 11th, 2010 @ 4:07am

    Re: Okay...

    geist, et al on more more more

    they are' guilty guilty guilty.!"

    well said.

    for or agisnt us, manitory or forbideen and guilty,

    g,g g! ( as comnpared to iii and ooo. immortal, invun, invic,/ omi coznat, present and potant)

    luckers with the pararde.

    death to the gammar nazguls.. (what's a nazgul like you, etc)

    packrat

     

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