Spain Says Broadband Is A Basic Right

from the that's-another-one dept

Slashdot alerts us to the news that Spain will be following Finland's lead in declaring broadband as a basic legal right. I'm still not convinced that declaring it as a full legal right makes sense, but it does show how important broadband is becoming to society. It will be interesting to see how this growing trend matches up with the efforts from the entertainment industry to have countries pass laws to kick people off the internet for file sharing. It would certainly appear that the two positions are not compatible.


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    Anonymous Coward, Nov 18th, 2009 @ 6:55pm

    I think it's pretty obvious that the rights of the public, like the right to face your accusers in a court of law, are not as important as the rights of the entertainment industry to take away your interent connection based on an accusation.

    Right? Right? All you young people out there, you're with me? Right?

    The production of entertainment is more important than access to a world of information? Right?

    THEM STEALERS ARE DESTROYING OUR BULLYING INDUSTRY!!!

     

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    BearGriz72 (profile), Nov 18th, 2009 @ 8:04pm

    Re: A/C

    "Wasting sarcasm is a sin."
    - R. Stevens
    "Television has raised writing to a new low."
    - Samuel Goldwyn

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Nov 18th, 2009 @ 8:35pm

    Re: Re: A/C

    "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it."
    - John Gilmore

    He said that back in 1993. And what is enforcing copyright other than a from of soft censorship. Some might call it a moral censorship. That in this one case, removing copies from the internet is acceptable if it deprives an artist, or content creator of valid revenue.

    Now think about copyright lasting for centuries.

    Seriously, good luck in the future.

     

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    Fred McTaker (profile), Nov 19th, 2009 @ 12:06am

    Universal Lifeline

    This is similar to when the U.S. declared telephone access a "right" via the "Universal Lifeline" direct subscriber tax and subsidy scheme. In a sense, U.S. telco regulation is also still structured around the "right" to 9-1-1 call access.

    The main difference seems to be that, in the countries where this Internet access right is being granted, ISPs don't have the same monopolistic stranglehold on the Internet as the U.S. telco market has always had on our communications. In both cases, declaring basic communications access as an equal citizen right makes sense, but only in America can a such "right" unbalance the economy in favor of a few self-chosen monopolists. Instead of solving these equal access problems with Democracy, the U.S. solves everything with "the biggest lobby wins" style Oligarchy.

     

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    anon, Nov 19th, 2009 @ 1:47am

    What you may not know is that making laws in Spain is the same as propaganda for free: No one is going to respect that law, just as the Government is itself violating the Ley de Dependencia, or failed to provide access to affordable housing as a basic right, and no one was held accountable. Free competition in energy or broadband in Spain is plainly a joke: we have the slowest and most expensive internet acces in the EU, and instead of fixing that, the authorities make this law.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Nov 19th, 2009 @ 2:59am

    "I'm still not convinced that declaring it as a full legal right makes sense,"

    From a European point of view I think it does, and definitely from a Scandinavian point of view. General internet savviness is much higher in Europe than in the US, and I say that as a sysadmin/it tech support person that have worked 10 years in Silicon Valley and San Francisco Bay Area, where computer literacy I would assume is much higher than in other part of the US. And having worked 5 years in Sweden and Denmark.

    15 years ago the Swedish government made sure that every house hold had at least one computer through a government program called "home computer". For less than $5 a month, you'd get a state of the art Windows or Mac machine, and the over all incentive was to increase the computer literacy of the population. It worked, and now Sweden has a votable P2P friendly "Pirate Party" on its rosters, and I'd say that is as a result of an advanced computer and internet culture.

    Another drive in Europe since at least 10 years is the ECDL (European Computer Driver's License). Most companies who use computers require that their employees take this test to ensure that their staff can handle the computer equipment made available to them. It teaches basics such as file and folder creation and organization, how to use MS Office, how to use a browser and search engines, etc. People were able to study on their assigned home computers, or on company time (the program is not in effect anymore). Individual companies then followed up with company specific training.

    ECDL is also taught in school, and all kids that leave high school generally leave with an ECDL. Unemployed people that signed up for the equivalent of EDD, the first thing they are taught is ECDL to make them more attractice in the work place. They also teach computers in Senior Citizen's homes so the elderly can reach out to family and access news.

    Enter Internet connections. I used a modem in the early nineties when I lived in Sweden. When I met my wife who's a aerospace engineer working in the heart Silicon Valley with advanced computer simulations and programming, a few years ago, she was accessing the Internet via a 56.6 telephone modem (?). Aside from that modem connections - to my vast astonishment - are still marketed in the US, Northern California relies heavily on over priced DSL connections for private individuals. A slow often filtered DSL connection in the US, cost as much as a 100/mb broadband connection in Sweden. US companies rely on "business DSL" (which would be considered normal DSL in Sweden, where it still exist in some areas), T1 or T3. As comparison, most schools and senior citizen's homes in Sweden have faster Internet connection than your average small business in the US. Why?

    About 12 years ago the Swedish government put in a bid for enhancing its national internet infrastructure and built a nationwide redundant backbone for tax money. The ISPs were then to handle "the last kilometer". The motivation to do this was a combination of having to use less trees for government services, to be able to automate common requests, to support Swedish business and Universities, defense, and other reasons.

    As a result, when I worked for a Swedish University in the mid-nineties I had a 155/MB pipe next door and was accessing the Internet through a 100/MB Switch. I haven't looked lately, but Gigabit has been standard for a while now so I'm sure it's at least ten times as fast as when I left about 10-12 years ago.

    All this to say, after this development and internet evolution in Europe, yes, Internet is seen as a basic right since it is through the Internet you can access your basic citizen services, and largely conduct your personal communication with the world. The vast majority of Scandinavians have done their banking via the Internet for a good while now, and in my step dad's case, that's basically the only thing he does with the computer and internet. He's not into internet culture at all, but when he does use computers and internet it it's to calculate personal finances, pay taxes, and deal with the bank - which I think says a lot about the attitude towards this technology. In the US, dealing with personal finances tend to be something only and "advanced user" would do, and people still write checks and update their notes by hand, something that was outdated before I started using banks, and I'm born in the mid-60s. Every 3rd year, election year, the topic of having people vote via the Internet comes up (but it always fall short of security reasons).

    So there it is. Internet needs to be a basic citizen right in developed nations, to handle personal communication, to interact with schools and universities (schedules, grades, lectures), to conduct business, and to access government services.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Nov 19th, 2009 @ 3:48am

    MAFIAA vs. Peoples of Spain - 0 : 2

     

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    Dementia (profile), Nov 19th, 2009 @ 5:36am

    It might be wise to note that here in the US, even rights can be taken away, although it usually requires a felony conviction of some sort. Of course, that doesn't seem to apply to things the RIAA is involved with either.

     

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    Hephaestus (profile), Nov 19th, 2009 @ 8:20am

    This seems to be inconflict ....

    This seems to be in conflict with where the entertainment industry is trying to go, with sections of ACTA, and it makes me smile ....

    ... Big Ole GRIN

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Nov 19th, 2009 @ 8:26am

    Re:

    It might be wise to note that here in the US, even rights can be taken away, although it usually requires a felony conviction of some sort.

    No problem. We'll just make copyright infringement a felony.

     

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    ZeroCool, Nov 19th, 2009 @ 9:33am

    I am Spanish and I must point out that it is not Broadband which they are making a right but the ACCESS to broadband universally... Having to name it a right to make it happens (i am talking about tons of small towns virtually incomunicated) speaks poorly about our last governments...

     

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    ZeroCool, Nov 19th, 2009 @ 9:33am

    I am Spanish and I must point out that it is not Broadband which they are making a right but the ACCESS to broadband universally... Having to name it a right to make it happens (i am talking about tons of small towns virtually incomunicated) speaks poorly about our last governments...

     

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