Sarah Palin Joins Al Gore In Not Realizing That Everyone's A Reporter These Days

from the something-in-the-veep-sauce? dept

Last year, we wrote how odd it was that former VP Al Gore banned reporters from a speech he gave, where all audio-video equipment was also banned. These days, such "no reporters allowed" speeches make no sense -- because anyone can be a reporter. Yet, it seems that there's something in the veep sauce (or veep wannabe sauce) that leads to these sorts of positions, as former VP candidate, Sarah Palin, is trying to do the same thing, barring "reporters" along with any kind of recording devices from a talk that she is giving. You can understand, perhaps, why politicians like to do this, but it seems both out of touch and completely pointless. Every single person in that room can be a reporter in one way or another -- and it doesn't take a recording device, but a pencil and some paper (or a decent memory). Trying to block out the "official" press is just a waste of time.


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    Anonymous Coward, Nov 6th, 2009 @ 7:20pm

    Deniable

    But if there is no actual recording then there is deniability.

     

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    The Groove Tiger (profile), Nov 6th, 2009 @ 7:41pm

    Re: Deniable

    Not if there are multiple witnesses.

     

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    Mr Big Content, Nov 6th, 2009 @ 8:23pm

    Not All Recording Devices, Only Socialist Ones

    I’m sure Sarah Palin will be happy to allow patriotic recording devices that won’t twist her words into some kind of irrelevant “meaning” and meaningless “context” that has nothing to do with what she was thinking when she spoke. The trouble is, none of these gadgets are made in the good old US of A any more, so you simply cannot depend on their loyalty. I don’t think she’s blaming the reporters at all, just their use of electronic products made in atheist-socialist countries.

     

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    K. O., Nov 6th, 2009 @ 8:34pm

    Re: Not All Recording Devices, Only Socialist Ones

    Yeah, freakin' liberal media bastards.




    Hey where the F are my sarcasm tags?

     

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    cryptozoologist (profile), Nov 6th, 2009 @ 8:53pm

    nothing new here

    sarah palin has never been adept at managing the media. after she was nominated for vp, it was several days before she gave any interviews at all. the result was complete abdication of her message to the media feedback chaotic amplification loop. when she finally did give interviews, the scrutiny was so intense that her actual message was lost.

    sarah, if you've got something to say, get out and say it. if you make a foolish remark from time to time, that is ok as long as it is a small percentage of what you've said. jesse jackson, joe biden, and a whole pantheon of public figures have said something difficult to explain, but since it is a small percentage of their total verbal output people are willing to cut them a little slack.

     

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    S P, Nov 6th, 2009 @ 8:57pm

    Aww Not Again

    I can see Russia from my house

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Nov 6th, 2009 @ 9:00pm

    Re: Aww Not Again

    I said "thanks but no thanks" to my sanity after listening to her interview(s).

     

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    Trails, Nov 6th, 2009 @ 9:03pm

    Re: nothing new here

    Not sure I agree. She came out swinging, she had huge momentum after the debate. What really killed her was the interview with Katie Couric.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Nov 6th, 2009 @ 9:21pm

    Re: Re: nothing new here

    Actually, what killed her was that she had to spend all her time reading newspapers. You know, all of them.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Nov 7th, 2009 @ 1:28am

    So, she might have been being dumb. But might she have also been trying to get publicity? Secrecy is seductive. People might pay more attention to her words if they came from a "no reporters allowed" event.

     

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    Blatant Coward (profile), Nov 7th, 2009 @ 5:37am

    If a tree falls in Russia, can she see it?

    Anyone can be a reporter, but who would want to care what she says.

     

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    AlleyTrotter, Nov 7th, 2009 @ 5:49am

    It josu thrills me how everyone fears Sarah

     

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    revolted voter, Nov 7th, 2009 @ 7:02am

    Re: Re: nothing new here

    Gotja journalism, asking questions about the Bush Doctrine ... a real patriot would've been throwing softballs. /s

     

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    Not a TeaBagger, Nov 7th, 2009 @ 7:07am

    Re:

    Yeah, especialy when people in the crowd shout things about killing candidates and the speaker does nothing about it.

    That sort of thing is really thrilling, isn't it?

     

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    Big Mook, Nov 7th, 2009 @ 9:20am

    Re: nothing new here

    Can't agree with you on the Biden comment. Joe Biden says something nonsensical and/or stupid virtually every time he opens his mouth. He actually makes Sarah Palin look really smart in comparison, and she's about as intelligent as a bag of hammers.



    Hail Xenu (and Seth) !!

     

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    mobilemike (profile), Nov 7th, 2009 @ 9:39am

    It comes down to trust...

    We recently ran a customer, partner and prospect event and while we know that some of the content we presented might be regurgitated, even misquoted... we know it would be more so if journalists were present...and eager to get a "controversial" story that sells more pages!

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Nov 7th, 2009 @ 10:40am

    Is there a ban on cell phones too? Wouldn't be hard to record the speech on a cell phone.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Nov 7th, 2009 @ 11:04am

    Please stop mentioning her name. She needs to fade into history, forgotten.

     

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    Charlie Potatoes, Nov 7th, 2009 @ 1:28pm

    That time of the month ...

    I can see the moon from my house ... wheeee ... I guess that makes me an Astronaut. Ummm ... mention whose name?

     

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    Rekrul, Nov 7th, 2009 @ 3:30pm

    With no recording devices allowed, people can mis-quote her all they want and there's no proof that she didn't say it.

     

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    Kraig, Nov 7th, 2009 @ 3:40pm

    Sarah Palin is an idiot

    Sarah Palin is an idiot

     

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    interval, Nov 7th, 2009 @ 5:16pm

    Re: Re: nothing new here

    "What really killed her was the interview with Katie Couric."

    Not being able to name a news paper she reads looked pretty bad, even though fewer and fewer people are reading the damn things. The interview with Charlie Gibson though, that made her look like an infant. The way he looked at her down his nose and throgh his glasses at her after asking her about the Bush Doctrine... brutal.

     

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    interval, Nov 7th, 2009 @ 5:19pm

    Re: Sarah Palin is an idiot

    @Kraig: "Sarah Palin is an idiot"

    You, by comparison, however... whew. Pure genius.

     

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    dictionary, Nov 7th, 2009 @ 6:16pm

    Re: Sarah Palin is an idiot

     

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    Triatomic Tortoise, Nov 7th, 2009 @ 6:29pm

    Re: Re: nothing new here

    Ha ha, finally a Hot-Palin fan :)

     

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    Triatomic Tortoise, Nov 7th, 2009 @ 6:31pm

    Re: If a tree falls in Russia, can she see it?

    Good point, amazing that people still are talking about this clown.

     

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    Triatomic Tortoise, Nov 7th, 2009 @ 6:34pm

    Re: Sarah Palin is an idiot

    Nice! I like candid comments :)

     

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    err, Nov 8th, 2009 @ 8:30am

    Re: Re: nothing new here

    Do not confuse foolishness with ignorance

     

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    DEO, Nov 8th, 2009 @ 9:17am

    Fabio as running mate

    Yeah, well, Scarah is pretty much a waste of time....

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Nov 8th, 2009 @ 10:12am

    Re:

    Palin's problem is if a quote sounds stupid enough there is no way that some people could ever believe that she couldn't have said it.

    She probably just wants to be able to give the same speech over and over again. If a tape gets out she is like the comic who just did the HBO special and needs all new material.

     

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    some other guy, Nov 8th, 2009 @ 4:15pm

    Banning reporters

    The only reason a politician would want to ban reporters is to get all the free publicity that goes along with a ban on reporters. Reporters just love to report that stuff. And it's the only way Palin can get anybody to listen to her.

     

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    KulganVaslor, Nov 8th, 2009 @ 4:21pm

    Its not about secrecy or privacy its about freedom of speech

    It is her right to make that request. I see no difference between this event and event where a small group of people sit around the dinner table, in her home, having a conversation over a good meal. Denial ability or not, she is allowed her privacy.

    Just because other people in the group can report on it doesn't mean they have too or even would want to, nor does it imply that what she is saying is private, confidencial or even secret. She has a right to ask its her condition for participation. Compliance to that request is the freedom to participate.

     

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    Steve, Nov 8th, 2009 @ 6:08pm

    Re: Deniable

    And THAT's when you upload the video to YouTube. Hanging morons with their own words has never been easier.

     

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    Lonzo5, Nov 8th, 2009 @ 8:29pm

    Re: Its not about secrecy or privacy its about freedom of speech

    I think that any citizen should be able to record anything that anyone says at any time for any reason, in the medium of their choice with or without permission from the party concerned. As president or vice president, Palin (along with our great nation of laws) would consider herself justified in recording any of her subjects at any time, for any reason, in the medium of her choice, so I believe that if she prefers not to be recorded, she should refrain from speaking. Wiretap laws and the like should be abolished. I am anti-patriot act, but if it must exist, it should be a two-way street.

     

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    Gregory, Nov 8th, 2009 @ 8:59pm

    Oh, please

    There is a difference between what is essentially a public servant hosting townhalls and whatnot (and hence should have 1st Amendment rights to have stuff on public record) and private citizens giving commercial speeches.

    Al Gore and Sarah Palin both have the right to restrict whatever they want in terms of recordings, because they are private citizens. Despite Al Gore being a blowhard spewing forth mass ignorance and nonsense every time he speaks on so-called AGW using crap data, I will defend to the death his right to restrict his speeches to those who paid to hear him speak. Similarly for Sarah Palin and her $100,000 per speech.

    This is no different from people banning a/v capture equipment to circus shows or plays or concerts or whatever.

    Now, what's up with all the hatin' Palin stuff? What does that have to do with anything? I happen to think that President Palin would have been a 100x better choice than President BHOmbastic, but so what? Neither my opinion nor anyone else's on this matter has anything to do with whether or not Palin or Gore are acting within reason in banning such a/v capture devices.

     

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    technomage (profile), Nov 9th, 2009 @ 3:30am

    Re: Oh, please

    Except she is not a private citizen, she is former VP candidate and actively lobbying for supporters for a later bid. She is lobbying for people, she is using her notoriety to boost people. That makes her a "public servant". So, as she is doing this for a public lobbying group "Right for Life". This stops it from being a "private" meeting. If she wants privacy then she need to drop out of ANY governmental or public speaking.

     

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    Big Mook, Nov 9th, 2009 @ 4:24am

    Re: Re: Re: nothing new here

    So you're saying Biden's actually intelligent, but also a fool? The man is a walking gaffe machine, and has been a source of embarassment to this country for decades. At least Obama has the good sense to keep him pretty much under wraps most of the time, although that's probably the only good thing Obama has done to this point.

     

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    err, Nov 9th, 2009 @ 5:16am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: nothing new here

    "So you're saying Biden's actually intelligent,"

    Where, exactly, was that stated?
    You compared two people, one foolish and the other ignorant.

     

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    Hephaestus (profile), Nov 9th, 2009 @ 8:20am

    Oh leave poor sarah alone .....

    She is like the only politician I would do ..... what a GILF ... Big Ole Icky GRIN

     

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    james, Nov 9th, 2009 @ 8:46am

    Yeah, Sarah never had a chance, with her extinct running mate, that really screwed it for the GOP. http://bit.ly/39oJo

     

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    ChimpBush McHitlerBurton, Nov 9th, 2009 @ 10:04am

    Re: Not All Recording Devices, Only Socialist Ones

    "...what she was thinking when she spoke."


    That's a good one.

    CBMHB

     

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    ChimpBush McHitlerBurton, Nov 9th, 2009 @ 10:07am

    Re: Re: nothing new here

    Um...

    There's a big difference between swinging and connecting.

    Gotta do both; otherwise you look like a retard. Which she did spectacularly.

    CBMHB

     

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    Derek Kerton (profile), Nov 9th, 2009 @ 1:23pm

    Re: Re: Deniable

    No. Deniable is right. It doesn't go viral when there is no recording to put on YouTube. Multiple witnesses be damned.

    Witness testimonials of a gaffe or a dumb statement are simply not sensational, there is no schadenfreude, and it doesn't spread as widely.

     

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