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by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
scott richter, spam

Companies:
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MySpace Wins Another Lawsuit Against Another Famous Spam King

from the richter-goes-down-again dept

Just a month after MySpace won a huge fine against famed spam king Sanford "Spamford" Wallace, it's now won its lawsuit against another big name spam king: Scott Richter, who it sued a year and a half ago. Richter and his father (who runs the company) are claiming victory in that the fine is only $6 million -- when MySpace had been asking for much more. You may notice that I'm not linking to coverage of this story, since right now it appears that only the Associated Press is writing about it -- and, as you may have heard, the AP has decided it doesn't want bloggers linking to its stories. Fair enough. Update: Here's the News.com coverage.

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    Jun 16th, 2008 @ 11:42pm
  • by Ulle

    I really do not understand the reasoning behind APs actions, I would have thought that they would want the extra exposure that linking provides, after all they do want people to read their articles right, or am I missing something important here?

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    • Jun 17th, 2008 @ 2:51am
    • Re: AP Business Model

      by Anonymous

      The Associated Press essentially makes money selling RSS feeds. If they give it away, how can they stay in business?

      (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

      • Jun 17th, 2008 @ 5:05am
      • Re: Re: AP Business Model

        by Anonymous Coward

        TBH, selling an RSS feed doesn't strike me as a sound business plan. Not as a core component anyways.

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    Jun 17th, 2008 @ 1:20am
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Free negative publicity with every blog newspost?

    Amazing! You can't even put a price on that!

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  • Jun 17th, 2008 @ 2:07am
  • Money

    I wish I had only $6 million

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

  • Jun 17th, 2008 @ 5:41am
  • by Anonymous Coward

    I didn't really care about this story but I clicked on the News.com link out of spite then browsed their site. Not bad, not bad at all. FU AP.

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

  • Jun 17th, 2008 @ 6:04am
  • by Charles

    Does it strike anyone else odd that 1.2million in legal fees seems to be the norm now-a-days.

    How is the common man to afford 'justice'?

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  • Jun 17th, 2008 @ 6:50am
  • spammers

    by leroy

    Death Penalty for spammers (and scammers). No trial, just move right to execution. (kidding)

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  • Jun 17th, 2008 @ 8:24am
  • Great Job!

    by Dan

    On staying squeaky clean of AP!

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

  • Jun 17th, 2008 @ 10:01am
  • The AP...

    by Tin Ear

    I used to work for a small town radio station and I was strongly warned not to let the print-outs from the AP wire out of the building. Not even for starting the wood stove. Big no-no.

    It's good that spammers are getting their just desserts in court, too.

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  • Jun 17th, 2008 @ 10:31am
  • This is meaningless

    by Rich Kulawiec

    They'll never collect. The spam won't stop. This is a waste of the judicial system's resources.

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  • Jun 17th, 2008 @ 1:45pm
  • I agree

    by John

    I agree with poster #11: sure, MySpace "wins", but will they collect? Probably not. If the spammer has a good lawyer (and I bet he does), they'll appeal the case for years and years without having to pay anything to MySpace.

    And is a $6 million judgment really effective against spammers? I would bet that they could just save their money for a few months, pay the judgment, and write it off as a cost of spamming users on MySpace.

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    • Jun 17th, 2008 @ 8:55pm
    • Re: I agree

      by Willton

      I agree with poster #11: sure, MySpace "wins", but will they collect? Probably not. If the spammer has a good lawyer (and I bet he does), they'll appeal the case for years and years without having to pay anything to MySpace.

      No, they won't appeal this decision. First, every day that the spammer delays payment is another day that interest accrues on the award, making it more expensive to pay the $6M. Second, this was a binding arbitration decision under the Federal Arbitration Act, which allows for expedited review. The FAA only allows for vacatur of an award in extremely limited circumstances, such as the arbitrator was fraudulent or exceeded his powers. Thus, if MySpace moves to confirm the award in federal court, they can get judgment rendered pretty swiftly.

      Further, if the spammer refuses to pay, MySpace can order seizure of the spammer's assets, and if that doesn't work, MySpace can take a loss on its tax return, thereby alerting the IRS that the spammer may be committing tax evasion.

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    Jun 17th, 2008 @ 9:37pm
  • Poster #13

    by Alex

    Richter has said he will pay and I bet he will because MySpace won $230 million against 2 of Richter's "affiliates" Wallace and Rines. (I wonder how much these two made for Richter if a Federal Judge determined they owe MySpace $230 million)

    If Richter appealed, he would probably be order to pay more. He got lucky with arbitration.

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  • Jun 18th, 2008 @ 8:19am
  • Boycott

    Congradulations on keeping up the AP boycott. I just love how mainstream media are burying themselves by clinging to old models and pretentions.

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

  • Jun 22nd, 2008 @ 8:19am
  • "spam king" lawsuit

    by Jeannette Basquin

    I don't see what the big deal is...have you ever tried a spamburger? they're pretty good!

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  • Jun 22nd, 2008 @ 8:21am
  • "spam king" lawsuit

    by Jeannette Basquin

    I don't see what the big deal is...have you ever tried a spamburger? they're pretty good!

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

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