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Forget Identity Fraud, What About Facebook Identity Fraud?

from the the-next-problem? dept

There have been plenty of stories over the past few years concerning the problems associated with identity fraud -- but with more and more of an individual's "identity" moving online, it was only a matter of time until the problems of identity fraud moved online in a more complete way (beyond just accessing the data and buying things as someone else). For example, Moroccan authorities have arrested a guy for identity fraud in taking over a Morrocan prince's identity on Facebook. The details aren't clear (at all). It could be just that this guy set up an account pretending to be the prince, or he could have accessed the prince's actual site, somehow (though, the article does suggest that the prince doesn't have much of a real presence). This raises some interesting questions. If you're simply creating a profile of a real person and acting as that person -- is that identity fraud?

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    Feb 7th, 2008 @ 6:46am
  • Yup

    If you're simply creating a profile of a real person and acting as that person -- is that identity fraud?

    Isn't that the definition of identity fraud?

    Although there's the possibility that it was a parody site (ala fakesteve.)

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  • Feb 7th, 2008 @ 6:55am
  • When in Morroco

    by OKVol

    It's good to be king. And thou shalt not make fun of the king. In the US, you just wind up in Gitmo.

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  • Feb 7th, 2008 @ 7:07am
  • by Anonymous Coward

    OKVol, here in the US we don't have Kings although we do have someone auditioning for Queen.

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  • Feb 7th, 2008 @ 7:10am
  • Yes, pretending to be someone you are not is identity fraud.

    Lots of love,
    M.

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    • Feb 7th, 2008 @ 7:15am
    • Re:

      by Charming Charlie

      Yes, pretending to be someone you are not is identity fraud. Have you put any thought into how broad this rule is? It incriminates me for doing a George Bush impression in a restuarant for my friends.

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      • Feb 7th, 2008 @ 7:20am
      • Re: Re:

        by DanC

        "It incriminates me for doing a George Bush impression in a restuarant for my friends."

        It should probably depend on how good the impression is, I guess.

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      • Feb 7th, 2008 @ 7:51am
      • Re: Re:

        by Willton

        Have you put any thought into how broad this rule is? It incriminates me for doing a George Bush impression in a restuarant for my friends.

        Well, are you actually representing yourself to be George Bush? I imagine you're not, considering your impression is designed to mock or parodize George Bush, not so that one would actually believe you are George Bush.

        Fraud is a misrepresentation of fact. Identity fraud is a misrepresentation of one's identity. If you are not actually representing yourself to the world that you are in fact George Bush, then you are not committing fraud.

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    Feb 7th, 2008 @ 7:13am
  • by Ed McMahon

    Yes! You are correct sir.

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  • Feb 7th, 2008 @ 7:40am
  • I'll bet....

    by bored now

    ... that Fake Steve Jobs has an opinion on this!

    Incidentally, @ OKVol - In France, truth is not a defence to the charge of defamation of a head of state!

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  • Feb 7th, 2008 @ 7:50am
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Legally, a fraud is a deception made for personal gain (perhaps but not necessarily at the expense of other parties). Hence, it's not identity fraud unless you're doing it for gain. It could be applicable to this case; we don't know specifics. As far as making people believe that person X has opinion Y by pretending to be X on Facebook, there are libel and slander laws to deal with that.

    There now, that wasn't hard and your resteraunt Bush impression is still good :)

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  • Feb 7th, 2008 @ 8:08am
  • by Why?

    Why the hell would anyone want to represent yourself as George Bush? That's probably the last ape on this planet I would represent myself as.

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  • Feb 7th, 2008 @ 9:26am
  • by nipseyrussell

    wait, am i committing identity fraud???
    even if nipsey russell is dead? (long live nipsey russell)
    cant be

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  • Feb 7th, 2008 @ 10:12am
  • Hi

    by Heath Ledger

    I like to take drugs and die.

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  • Feb 7th, 2008 @ 12:59pm
  • No!!!

    by George Bush

    Cause if...uh...identity fraud is bad, then, uh, it can't be good! And its not something people should do to me..! I mean...of me. For me, no, instead of me...
    No bad stuff!
    9/11!

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

  • Feb 8th, 2008 @ 1:03pm
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Cause if...uh...identity fraud is bad, then, uh, it can't be good! And its not something people should do to me..! I mean...of me. For me, no, instead of me...
    No bad stuff!
    9/11!

    Don't quit your day job.

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

  • Feb 10th, 2008 @ 6:10pm
  • Blog and Gmail Address That Were Created In My Nam

    I reported it to Google and they did fuck all about it. It was pretty nightmarish, actually. The site was a parody site, and I'm all for free speech and parody -- in fact, I would've linked to the site if it had been titled AmyAlkonSucks.com or something. But, it wasn't. It was advertised on various blogs as my official site, and the asshat who did it even posted comments on my own site, driving people from my site to the fake site. I got control of it, no thanks to Google. It sucked hours and hours of my time in writing appeals to Google, etc., asking them, not to shut down the site, but to make the guy stop making it look like it was my personal site and instead call it AmyAlkonIsABitch or whatever, and move the content there.

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

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