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   Perfect Opportunity

   

   Oliver Wendell Jones, Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 12:10pm

   
   

   Finally, a perfect opportunity for someone to fight back, refuse to pay the "fine" and take it to court.
   
   In this case I'm sure the MPAA will immediately back down as they have an extremely weak case that they could very easily lose *and* set precedent for future "lawsuits".
   
   Let's hope someone takes this one on...

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   Re: Perfect Opportunity

   

   Joe Me, Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 12:43pm

   
   

   You can sue whomever you want for whatever you want...but maybe tort reform would cause the MPAA to think again about how they approach people.
   
   They may very well expect to lose this case and others like it, but it could still bode well for them by building a "quiet momentum" to persuade Congress.

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   No Subject Given

   

   Mousky, Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 12:52pm

   
   

   They may not necessarily be guilty, but they could be partially liable. It is all a matter of how the lawsuit is worded. The 'sympathetic' case you cite in no way shows that the "law would certainly suggest otherwise" - you are stretching the truth with the case in Michigan.

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   No Subject Given

   

   Anonymous Coward, Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 12:54pm

   
   

   Frankly I am holding out for someone to sue the MPAA and tear the whole damn thing apart.
   
   Maybe we should start suing them for low grade quality product being released and price fixing with the movie theatres.
   

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   Sued for offering for download

   

   Wayne, Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 1:07pm

   
   

   The story mentions that the files were offered for download. I suspect than P2P programs automatcially "share" files that are downloaded and that the user has to do something not to share the files. In sounds like the kid didn't really know what he was doing so I suspect he didn't even know he was sharing the files after he downloaded them.
   This imporves their case against the kid, but they still have the problem that the person they are suing didn't do anything.

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   Re: No Subject Given

   

   Mike (profile), Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 1:14pm

   
   

   You're saying that the law says it IS okay to go after someone who didn't commit the crime?

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   This stupid

   

   Patrick, Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 1:17pm

   
   

   I cant believe they are tryin to hold an old man responsible. Can we get a petition together to force the MPAA to disband?

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   Re: This stupid

   

   Matt, Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 1:26pm

   
   

   So if someone shoots a person with my gun (metaphorically), i am responsible?

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   Re: This stupid

   

   dave, Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 1:35pm

   
   

   Yes you can, although the gun industry is trying to stop it.
   e.g. http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/04/07/as_gun_makers_seek_to_limit_liability_a_family _stands_opposed?mode=PF

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    Petition

    

    petition, Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 1:41pm

    
    

    Although it MAY never amount to anything. Let's see just how far we can make this go.
    http://www.petitiononline.com/mpaapet1/petition.html

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    Re: This stupid

    

    Anonymous Coward, Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 1:51pm

    
    

    If you leave the gun laying around the house, yes. But if they broke into your house, got into your closet, no.

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    Re: This stupid

    

    jg, Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 3:04pm

    
    

    Well, no - the gun industry is trying to stop lawsuits attempting to hold the gun manufacturer liable for crimes committed with guns they manufactured. The referenced article is quite clear on that.
    
    The analogy here: should the MPAA be able to sue Dell when a computer bought from them is used to make illegal downloads?
    
    I'm not sure whether the poster originally raising the gun analogy was being ironic or not, but states such as California have laws making adults responsible for crimes committed with their guns by minors, if the adult was negligent in their storage precautions.

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    It's about liability..

    

    QuantumG, Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 4:17pm

    
    

    Claiming that he isn't liable because his grandson was the one doing it, not him, is about as rediculous as saying that he's not liable if someone cracks their head open on faulty steps in his house because his grandson lives there, not him. He owns the line, he's liable for any copyright infringement performed from that line. And no, it doesn't matter if it wasn't his son but some hackers who broke into his computer; if a burglar breaks into your house and puts his back out trying to lug away your safe, you're still liable. Much like copyright law in general, personal liability is insane and should be abolished.

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    share share share!!!!

    

    bmg, Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 7:05pm

    
    

    they make PLENTY of money, everyone should keep doing what theyre doing SHARING.

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    share share share!!!!

    

    bmg, Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 7:05pm

    
    

    they make PLENTY of money, everyone should keep doing what theyre doing, SHARING.

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    Re: This stupid

    

    Tim, Nov 3rd, 2005 @ 6:05am

    
    

    Run a tarpit. Not hard. Then when you get an offensive email, forward it to the FCC to investigate as UCE.

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    Down with MPAA

    

    Jim Terwiliger, May 27th, 2008 @ 4:29pm

    
    

    Maybe instead of sueing, we should start shooting. One day things will go to far and violence will result. I for one would cheer anyone that does this. Time to show what the poor can do.

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    Re: Re: This stupid

    

    Anonymous Coward, May 27th, 2008 @ 4:31pm

    
    

    Maybe instead of leaving the gun around the house they leave it with the bodies of the corporate whores who protect these rich bastards

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