I love the lies you guys spread.
So your DDOS is by bot-netting? ACTUALLY thats generally used for spamming. This DDOS is performed by people willingly using their computer systems.
A DDoS is an automated way of achieving your "refreshing the page".
To consider a DDoS anything other than a form of protest, is a logical dead end. (there you go mate, fixed that for you)
What about wikileaks, they can no longer recieve donations for their site via two commonly used CC's. If you think this censorship is harmless and only effected the big bad Julian Asasnge, you are dead wrong.
You know thousands of people, not by just a ''hi bob'' as you walk past, but personally enough that they tell you of their finanical troubles? And you have time to post on a forum? Damn you must have at least 30 fingers there mate.
Did you consider phoning paypal? Perhaps organising something in a non-internet fashion?
Sometimes the lack of commonsense of trolls astounds me :s
Ahh just read your comment dan, well i have no problem not using the credit function :) Now to point it out to my fiancee haha. (And wikileaks thought it had a difficult time explaining things!)
Damnit, now i have to make a new bank account(my credit-debit card is visa, and they dont offer any others...) So mastercard is out as well, this is going to take some headscratching to figure out whats next lol.
So does that mean now their picutres are of coding saying "if anal -> Contine, If vaginal -> Continue, If Penil -> Fail" i cant put that on a T-Shirt?
And seriously where's the unique thought behind this?
Spooling up ye-old pc now. Time to get ze server running, ill host some files temporarily :)
Next step, build torrents of all the latest backups *sigh* there go's my saturday haha.
Ok to those who keep insisting that this is risking lives. Get off your high horse, READ the damn documents, you show me where any of these risks someones life?
Not maybe, definatly, as in has put them in danger. Not "if it angers a country we could goto war", thats not valid reasoning, thats a failure on your diplomats to actually do their job.
Until then, try something new, get a real argument.
And as for charging him, ive seen the trumped up charges that were released today, arrest him, ill step up, many of us will, we will host everywhere, ill put my name to it.
Scare tactics wont bow us, you cannot stop us.
So grow up, grow a pair of balls, whatever it takes but learn to live with your own system. Dont blame us for showing it for what it is.
How is Julian Assange a criminal? He's posting documents given to him, he's not an American, so your laws do not apply to him.
Your feds better not start touching my hosted sites :S
Has your govt suddenly lost all rational thought during that holiday you had recently? Too much beer? :s
Wow... Just wow...
I hope anon steps up and has a go at amazon now. ;)
For once im not that annoyed... and yet at the same time am... I think something inside me just broke :s
So who's going to sue about the devil being in it(assuming it is from a version my little sister plays). The church?
Actually did some more thought on it, if they took the domain(not just the DNS) then that would explain the msg. Someone who knows more about networking should chime in on this.
Now im not a yank, but wouldnt this come under a freedom of speech? Not all of those sites were/are "counterfit", there was a couple of rap sites.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." From wiki
So because there's no law your saying that its not against the amendment? If thats the case, how are they taking it down?
Err guys been reading a little more about this story from other places, and got an intersting link.
http://74.81.170.110/
Thats one of the sites actual ip's - when you goto it, yup you got the taken down message. Thats not a domain name seizure, thats a server seizure(i havnt tracert'ed it yet... actually doing it now...)
Wow getting some weird results, someone who knows more about networks will have to look at that(not my field).
So it seems like they have seized more than just the domain name...
Despite the risks, some people will continue to release these documents as they are found.
Its not like he didnt know the risks going into this, and while i think it was foolish of him to use his name freely, its his decision at the end of the day.
Back to the subject though, your president cannot bring legal action against this site, not without everything blowing out of proportion, and just a large game of wack-a-mole.
The full power of the federal government.
So let me get this straight, you want to ruin your ties with my country, because someone posted something leaked by your own countryman?
Over-reacting much? Did you stop to think of what those consequences would be, if you started making ill-thought out demands of your allies?
They cant shut down wikileaks because its not US based guys. Its run by an aussie, but last i checked, it was hosted somewhere else.
Also as Mike notes, some of us are mirroring the Wikileaks site, if it go's down, were going to put it back up somewhere else. (on a side note, im going to need a new HD soon if they release much more roflol).
Hephaestus, do you mean this one?
http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/2466654/4932480/
As much as i dont want to derail this conversation(even aussies find this interesting, might be happening to you guys across the pond, but it shows us what to look out for over here).
Non compatible version? What the hell are you smoking?
Unless some hacker installs it on your computer... SQL injection attacks, email scams(with links to infected webpages) etc sound familiar?
As for the danger of using torrents, id strongly argue that more stupid users get infected from clicking bad links or from bad direct downloads than torrents(because they are that stupid).
BTW your writing style makes you seem like a damn 4yo who cant control his voice, save the rest of our eye's eh? If you really want to emphasise use a damn * around the world.
And aside from all that, what was the entire point of derailing this thread for your not-exactly coherent ramble?
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Cant get the basics right? I know quite a few people working with the loic, i definatly know what im talking about.
As for being arrested, they actually have the argument of "i was hacked and put on a botnet" setup already. Difficult to prove they were doing it themselves.
So back to my point, and as others have pointed out, the loic is generally done from normal every day computers, some run under protection, i know many who do not. Frankly quite a few are hoping to get arrested for it, then it gives them a much better platform from which to protest.