Google Faces Patent Extortion From Russia

from the trying-to-cash-in dept

Google has become a big target for patent lawsuits over the years, as does just about any successful company. Most of the lawsuits seem like more of an attempt to shakedown a successful company, rather than any legitimate complaint, and the latest is no exception. Valleywag points us to the news that a Russian company named Era Vodoleya claims that it invented and patented "contextual advertising" and that Google owes the company $3 billion. It may be a translation issue, but the article falsely claims that Google implemented its contextual ad program in 1999, when it actually came about much later. Also, what's odd, is that no actual lawsuit has been filed. Instead, the company is going public with threats to file a lawsuit and asking Google to settle up. It says it will wait until Spring to file the actual lawsuit.

The concept of contextual advertising was hardly a new idea. In fact, from the early days of web advertising, it was always a target. Plenty of other companies tried to do it, but what made Google so successful was that it actually implemented the process in a way that worked. It was about putting it into practice, not the grand scheme that ended up in a patent somewhere. This seems like nothing more than a company trying to shakedown Google.


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    Brad Hue, Nov 7th, 2008 @ 11:44am

    Not unusual not to sue initially

    It's quite common to notify potential defendant of lawsuit intention, even actual complaint, before suit is filed in court.

    Very commom, particuarly in patent litigation.

     

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    Ima Fish, Nov 7th, 2008 @ 11:49am

    "It was about putting it into practice, not the grand scheme that ended up in a patent somewhere."

    I'm reminded of an episode of the Twilight Zone where a guy thought that if he could go back in time prior to the industrial revolution, with ideas about television, radio, and telephones, he could become rich.

    Of course he was sent back in time, and he had the grand ideas for the products, but he had absolutely no way of actually implementing them. So he ended up poor.

     

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    Evil Mike, Nov 7th, 2008 @ 12:04pm

    Re:

    Now that's a fellow who lacks ingenuity.

    Having traveled back in time, he knows which products (in general) are going to be successful and which are not. Armed with such information, it should be easy enough to buy stock in the right companies; until he's worth a few million in stock; then he can make things happen.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Nov 7th, 2008 @ 12:12pm

    What does this have to do with Obama? ;>)

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Nov 7th, 2008 @ 12:25pm

    How will this threat play out in light of the Bilsky ruling ?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Nov 7th, 2008 @ 12:42pm

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    Nothing to do with Obama just this is Al Gore trying to sue google in Russia under an assumed name. Invented all of the internet and global warming.

     

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    Killer_Tofu (profile), Nov 7th, 2008 @ 1:01pm

    Re: Re:

    Wow, you still haven't moved on from the out of context statement? Don't you have anything new to harass the guy about? I am sure that it is old enough he probably doesn't care about it anymore.

     

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    Killer_Tofu (profile), Nov 7th, 2008 @ 1:04pm

    Prior Art?

    I have a pretty good feeling that could be verified with little research that there is prior art in the form of contextual ads from the very early on days of the printing press.

     

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    Lonnie E. Holder, Nov 7th, 2008 @ 1:25pm

    Maybe it was a grand scheme in a patent somewhere...

    It was about putting it into practice, not the grand scheme that ended up in a patent somewhere. This seems like nothing more than a company trying to shakedown Google.

    Actually, Google patented a related invention in U.S. patent 7,136,875. However, this patent was filed 09/24/2002, much later than Google was supposedly using the original technology, so perhaps this later patent and the seven patent applications pending that depend from this patent are for a different technology.

    The other puzzling item is that various reports either claim copyright infringement or patent infringement.

    Era Vodoleya has no US or EPO patents, so a claim of $3 billion seems unlikely, since Era Vodoleya would be limited to revenue from countries where it holds patents, if it even does hold patents. If Russian law is similar to U.S. patent law, Era Vodoleya would get nothing unless the servers doing the contextual advertising are located within Russia.

    On the other hand, if Era Vodoleya can prove copyright infringement, which seems initially unlikely, then they might have a case.

    All this seems like a ploy to get some money from Google or to get Google to buy the company. Google's attorneys probably had little to do this week anyway, so having to think a little will be good for them.

    Stay tuned.

     

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    Lonnie E. Holder, Nov 7th, 2008 @ 1:28pm

    Re: Bilski

    Anonymous:

    Interesting question. If we actually had a copy of a patent from Era Vodoleya, we might be able to make a determination.

    I read Google's claims for their patent in this area and I think their claims are ripe for elimination if they were re-examined in view of Bilski.

     

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    mike42 (profile), Nov 7th, 2008 @ 2:29pm

    Re: Prior Art?

    Yeah, but this patent has "on a computer" added. Instant innovation!

     

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    Crazy Billy JoBob, Nov 7th, 2008 @ 2:43pm

    Sarah can see Russia, why not...

    Let's send Sarah Palin over to negotiate it.

     

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    angry dude, Nov 7th, 2008 @ 8:00pm

    huy naley

    piss on Mikey's shitty blog
    and this is called "journalism" nowadays...

     

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    Boris, Nov 9th, 2008 @ 10:12am

    Re: Maybe it was a grand scheme in a patent somewhere...

    http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=EA&NR=4528&KC=&FT=E

    1. The information system including at least one user’s device connected via a connection unit to a memory device for storing information, characterized by including into said system a device far generating a set of requested information and advertising information, connected to the memory device for storing information and to the connection unit, and comprising an entry for inputting the advertising information.

    и пояснения к этому пункту

    Additionally an advertising information can be input by the user from the keyboard using an input unit (not shown on the figure). If the user has a possibility to choose the advertising he is interested in, the system can work in a mode of a dialog: the user forms a requested information; the information is to be found in mem 4; the message is transmitted through the device 4 informing that the requested information is available, a list of advertising services is then transmitted; the user chooses the advertising service he is interested in, sends the answer to the network and receives a set of requested information and the type of advertising information according to the user’s choice corresponding to the mode of providing information.

    in 1999 Google dnot have Bisines Plan.
    http://g-o-o-g-l-e.ru/blog/
    and Bill Gross dnot have patent

     

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    Crabby (profile), Nov 10th, 2008 @ 1:04pm

    Re: hot air

    Well, Al Gore is full of hot air... no wonder the planet is heating up. Hey, if he invented the internet, does that mean he invented internet porn, too? Bad Al! Baaad!

     

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