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by Mike Masnick


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bond ratings, computer glitch



When A Computer Glitch Mucks Up Bond Ratings

from the what-do-you-do dept

Interesting story in the financial world, as the Financial Times reported that Moody's, the big name in the bond rating business, may have incorrectly rated certain bonds as Aaa, its highest rating -- given only to a class of bonds that will almost never default. Apparently, the incorrect ratings were due to a computer glitch (always a convenient scapegoat). However, more troublesome is the Financial Times' claim that it has seen documents suggesting that Moody's execs were aware of the error last year and didn't do much to change the incorrect ratings. This is troublesome, as it would be a big hit to Moody's reputation -- which is its biggest asset. Of course, when you rely on a single source (or a single algorithm) to rate bonds, this sort of thing is bound to happen eventually -- and extracting yourself from the resulting mess is always going to be tricky. It makes you wonder if there aren't better ways to rate bonds, that don't have a single point of failure.

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    May 22nd, 2008 @ 3:49am
  • Still

    by John

    Well, I would still give the company a AAAA+^2 rating...wait, lemme check something...uh, well, I'll have to get back to you on that.

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  • May 22nd, 2008 @ 6:45am
  • by Nate

    Why can't I ever get "Computer Glitch" that is benifical for my bank account balance? http://www.custompcmax.com

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

  • May 22nd, 2008 @ 7:46am
  • by kip

    Why can't I ever get "Computer Glitch" that is benifical for my bank account balance?


    Because companies actually care enough to fix those bugs quickly.

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

  • May 22nd, 2008 @ 9:14am
  • by Evostick

    S&P also give those bonds AAA ratings, and they have no bugs

    Apparently

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  • May 22nd, 2008 @ 11:44am
  • by B

    Now this is some fantastic spin. There was no "glitch". There was no "bug". The computers were not at fault. The problem was an incredibly bad, arguably incompetent, algorithm design which made some very bad assumptions about the relevance of the data it was using.

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

  • May 22nd, 2008 @ 3:40pm
  • Conflicts of interest

    by Jaded Investor

    "The problem was an incredibly bad, arguably incompetent, algorithm design which made some very bad assumptions about the relevance of the data it was using."

    The fact that other ratings agencies came up with similar bogus ratings casts serious doubt on the "computer error" spin. "Computer error" is the business equivalent of "The cat ate my homework".

    It seems more likely that the problem arose because the ratings agencies were paid large sums of money to come up with the "right" ratings.

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

  • May 23rd, 2008 @ 9:33am
  • bonds and Aaa rate

    by Micha

    Hi:
    We Americans are being runed by criminal actions and our government allows it... IRS, FED, and other private agencies have taken over America. I'm ashamed to be American and so powerless to change things. Y'know with all the rubbish going on it saddens my heart.

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

  • Jul 8th, 2009 @ 3:39am
  • by Sara

    Have a look at www.bank-ratings.net I think that could help you as well.

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

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