Microsoft Exec Admits That Company Benefits From Piracy

from the a-secret-no-more dept

For some time, big software companies have tried to make the argument that a copy of pirated software is equivalent to a lost sale This is pretty ridiculous for a couple reasons. For one thing, there's no reason to think that a given user of pirated software would have actually purchased a legitimate copy. Furthermore, the argument ignores the fact that companies actually benefit in some ways from piracy, because a user of pirated software is likely to purchase software from the same maker at some point down the road. This latter point is something that even Bill Gates has admitted, even while Microsoft continues to talk tough about cracking down on piracy. Now the company is stating more clearly that it knows there are some benefits to piracy. Jeff Raikes, head of the company's business group, said at a recent investor conference that while the company is against piracy, if you are going to pirate software, it hopes you pirate Microsoft software. He cited the above reasoning, noting that users of pirated Microsoft software are likely to purchase from the company later on. He said the company wants to push for legal licensing, but doesn't want to push so hard so as to destroy a valuable part of its user base. The company recently got a stark reminder of this lesson when a school in Russia said it would switch to Linux to avoid future hassles with the pirate police. Of course, this moderate stance seems at odds with the company's recent hyper-aggressive anti-piracy push, which resulted in many mistaken piracy accusations. Either way, Raikes' comments completely destroy the line about pirated software being equivalent to lost sales; if it actually were, Raikes would be telling people to pirate the software of Microsoft's competitors.


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    Scott Wendt, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 12:46am

    A lost sale is better than competitor gaining a us

    It may well be that piracy is a lost sale (though not all piracy would otherwise result in a purchase) but that is not as bad as not having a user at all which still better than the competitor having a paying user. The goal is to keep piracy at a casual level and have as high a level possible of conversions from pirate to customer as possible. Its sort of the same reasoning as giving away LOTS of software to schools so that people have thier eyes in front of your software and not someone elses.

     

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    Dennly, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 2:17am

    MS software piracy

    There is NO MS software worth paying for, or even using, except the operating system, which then opens up the whole world of independent software (commercial, shareware and freeware).

    It's only because Windows is bundled with new computers that I use it, otherwise I'd be off like a shot to the competition.

    Having said that, the non MS software really works and IS worth paying for (when not free!).

    Bill, when you're in a hole, stop digging. Either ask us to pay for REAL apps, or just give them to us!

     

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    Enzo, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 3:11am

    MS ain't all bad

    "There is NO MS software worth paying for"
    "the non MS software really works and IS worth paying for"

    Not sure I agree entirely with that generalisation.
    I'm no fan of MS and generally try to use alternatives where possible but MS Office for example is a very decent app. Is there a better alternative worth paying for? I haven't found one yet. OOo? Decent but not worth paying for.

    As for piracy ... it stands to reason that any software developer would prefer people use their software rather than a competitor's ... be it pirated software or not.
    Isn't that really why companies give away free versions of their software ... to get you using their products with the hope of making money off you in future?

     

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    Michael Long, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 3:19am

    Whose?

    "Raikes would be telling people to pirate the software of Microsoft's competitors."

    Since the software most commonly pirated is Windows itself, just which other companies' desktop OS would they pirate? Solaris???

    The second most commonly pirated is Office. Since there's pretty much no competition in the professional office productivity space, which competitor there would you suggest that people pirate?

    How about Windows Server? Exchange? No?

    So it's rather obvious that your conclusion that his "comments completely destroy the line about pirated software being equivalent to lost sales ... Raikes would be telling people to pirate the software of Microsoft's competitors" is pretty much false to fact.

    Because, by and large, there are no competitors...

     

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    CGS, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 3:53am

    not even Solaris

    you can download Solaris for free as well. So, other than Windoze and X (from Apple) all OS are for free now. Download Solaris from here: http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/get.jsp?cd=251116

     

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    The infamous Joe, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 4:26am

    Monkey with a keyboard.

    I don't know what kind of crazy things you people do with MS Office, but check out openoffice.org, it seems comparable to office, though, to be honest, I don't use either that often anymore, so I don't know if MS Office does [useful] things that Openoffice doesn't...

    One thing is certain, you can't beat the price. :)

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 4:26am

    Pirate the OS, just don't pirate the server software.

     

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    Sean, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 4:29am

    Re: MS ain't all bad

    As to Office being a decent app with no alternatives. I don't completely agree. It is a fairly good office productivity app, but I would not pay the money to purchase it myself. I currently run Open Office. It is free and will open any MS Office file.

     

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    Enzo, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 4:56am

    OOo

    Sean
    Not "no alternatives" but "no alternatives worth paying for" was my point.
    I have been using Open Office (OOo) for a few years at home ... and MS Office at work ... and use both daily and think that OS Office is better (it's personal preference really). Is OOo worth paying for (if you had to)?

     

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    Overcast, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 6:12am

    Microsoft would make a killing just giving out it's OS and charging everyone 5 bucks a month for updates..

     

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    I think, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 6:23am

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    People wouldn't update their software, thereby opening systems to security problems that could be detrimental to the community as a whole ...

    Nevertheless, I see more and more stories about large organizations moving away from MS OS and apps. The US D.O.T. and subsequently the F.A.A. are both looking at *NIX and Google's Online Apps ... entire gov'ts have moved to Linux (Ubuntu seemingly the most popular choice). Now, THAT'S a lot of lost revenue ...

     

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    Corey Smith, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 6:27am

    Obscurity

    Piracy is far better than obscurity.

     

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    Ronnie, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 7:06am

    Re: Microsoft Exec Admits That Company Benefits Fr

    $5 a month for updates? Free OS? Brilliant i would absolutely not have a problem with that.

     

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    john caddidy, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 7:08am

    Give me a break!

    you guys keep harping on the old and very tired theme that "free is good." even if -- as in this case -- we're talking about piracy. then again, seeing how you guys don't create any of your own content...and no, i don't consider what you produce as content -- considering how it's mostly one of you guys running your mouths based on what some news organizations reported.

    seriously, go back and check out your posts. a incredibly high % sings the same old song.

    boring

     

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    Dustin, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 7:16am

    Re: OOo

    Is OOo worth paying for (if you had to)? Kind of a mute point isn't it? But I'll go with your hypothetical and agree that MS Office is the better piece of software if I were willing to pay, though only because it's got Publisher. The home edition is completely worthless and I'd never consider buying it. One problem then, MS doesn't have a standalone Publisher, and the cheapest suite with it is $500. So I say, "to hell with it" put my money to better uses. Now if OOo were to decide to stop being free and charge, say, 50% of the equivalent MS price (about $50) then yes, it would still be worth it.

     

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    Casper, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 7:28am

    Re: MS ain't all bad

    I would have to say that MS Office is not worth paying for. I moved away from it a few years ago and have not looked back. There is nothing included that you really miss, and all the random features people claim it has over it's competitors are never really used... and I was extremely happy to be rid of that stupid paper clip. Every time I installed a fresh install and that little thing popped up, I thought I was going to lose my mind.

    As for piracy, I really think it's blown out of proportion. If someone could have afforded the crazy price tag, they probably would have bought it in the first place. I know that my copy's of XP have all either come with a computer or I have gotten free from MS conferences. If it were up to me to go buy a copy of Windows, I wouldn't do it. Just like I won't buy a copy of Office. They are not worth the money. People turn around and bash operating systems like Ubuntu, but they forget that they are comparing it, a free system, to a $400 system that has been on the market for over a decade. Does Ubuntu do what I think it should for free? Yes, it actually does far more then I would expect from a free piece of software developed by a cooperative group. Does Windows do what I think it should for $400? No, I think a $400 price tag should get me something considerably better then a more polished OS. It should come WITH an office application (free), a sweet of REAL tools to make it useful to people other then secretaries and grade school teachers, and have a GOOD support program. When I spend $400 on a piece of hardware, I expect the manufacturer to support it and replace it if it has problems. What am I paying the $400 for with Windows? Ease of use?

    In the next year or so we will be looking to move our entire agency away from MS Office. We reviewed the options, and if you compare MS Office side by side with it's competitors, there really isn't any justification for the price tag. If it wasn't such a headache, we would probably even move away from Windows all together, but the Linux distributions are not quite mature enough (good enough for home use, not quite good enough for use by non-tech people)... and MAC isn't really realistic in an office setting for numerous reasons.

     

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    Joe Blogs, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 7:34am

    Re: MS software piracy

    Try reading your post before you submit it.
    you contadict yourself,

    Most everyday computer users don't even know how to install windows, and the fact is that most computer would be considerably less if they had no OS or software installed initially.

    Those that do know may buy the required software or go down the piracy route, I know lots of undergraduate students take the later route if they build computer as they cant afford the software yet!!! These are the potential buyers when they do have the funds.

     

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    Casper, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 7:46am

    Re: Give me a break!

    I am actually a developer and I don't consider 90% of the software I see for sale worth selling. People think if you make a utility to convert a picture from one file type to another, it should be listed for sale on a cheesy HTML site. If you make a product well enough, people will buy it, assuming you have a realistic price tag. Is Macromedia Dreamweaver worth $400? Yes, if your a web developer, but the average person who just wants it as a tool is not going to pay that kind of money for something to tinker with. We are not talking about companies pirating vast amounts of software that they might otherwise have purchased. We are talking about individuals who want to try it out or learn how to use it.

    Software developers are spoiled. We really are. We think if we make something, people have to buy it. That is not how it works. If you make a product that is worth buying, people will not have a problem paying for it. In my case, the projects I work on now are based only on their usefulness. If the client does not like it, they don't use it, and we don't get paid. If someone wants to try it out, we work with them to try it out. Not some stupid 90 day demo.

    What it comes down to is opinions. Some people think anything they create is worth money, and that everyone who uses it should pay. Other people think you should only pay for it if you are using it to make money. I sit somewhere in the middle, I think people should pay if they can, but companies should not limit their audience. If a teenage kid wants a copy of Dreamweaver to start playing with web development, I think he should get it. There is no harm to the company, he couldn't have afforded it anyway, and in the future, when he is working in the field, guess what products he is going to use....

     

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    iPir4te, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 8:01am

    Re: MS software piracy

    Just because the computer comes with Vista or XP, doesn't mean you have to use it. My old laptop "came with" Win2K - the very first thing I did was format and install Linux.
    I also use Firefox instead of IE - because I choose to.
    Just because your car comes with OnStar, doesn't mean you have to use it either.

    The only thing you "have" to use is iTunes for your iPood - unless someone's cracked the DRM for that... ???

     

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    iPir4te, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 8:01am

    Re: MS software piracy

    Just because the computer comes with Vista or XP, doesn't mean you have to use it. My old laptop "came with" Win2K - the very first thing I did was format and install Linux.
    I also use Firefox instead of IE - because I choose to.
    Just because your car comes with OnStar, doesn't mean you have to use it either.

    The only thing you "have" to use is iTunes for your iPood - unless someone's cracked the DRM for that... ???

     

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    mage, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 8:01am

    pirate

    this is nothing new. why do you think adobe borland, microsoft, big software vendors allow this to happen? they know most pirates are young people. that if a 16 year old gets to know the interface of photoshop when he is 20+ working in the tech field he will use photoshop for his business, or his company will be using it. same with visual studio. that 16 year old kid will learn the interface so well he wont even mess with another IDE studio app. That person is now a Life time Microsoft software supporter. and more then likely will buy future versions of Visaul studio.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 8:10am

    piracy... ahhhh piracy where to start...

    bought my first computer 7 years ago now

    an u know the guy that comes over an strips it out and starts u off in the right (or rong direction)...

    bit of a toutor so to speak..

    well i've never paid for a thing since...

    2 personal pc' later an 3 build's for coworkers...

    im still going strong

    but i think u have to enjoy lackluster preformance and zippo support... hours, of how does it affect my work and, can i find a way arround that, just so i can do this...

    now if that's not your thing... buy it!!!

    OO all the way unless u know the guy to install office for u :)

     

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    Erv, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 8:16am

    Piracy

    Companies could spend money better on other things than fighting piracy, I suggest a level of tolerance, this would tend to invite people to your company to purchase product

     

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    JAM, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 8:52am

    Re: Monkey with a keyboard.

    Excel spreadsheed is fully programmable in Visual Basic. Nothing in OO comes close to this.

    JAM

     

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    The infamous Joe, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 9:47am

    The worst pirate ever.

    You don't need itunes to use an ipod. That's all I'm going to say about that.

     

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    Jay, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 10:58am

    Re: Re: Monkey with a keyboard.

    and how often does one need to program in vb in excel? If you can write vb code, why are you doing it on top of excel? You can use C code in OO, but again, why are you writing code in a spreadsheet? It is a spread sheet. BTW, try using access to access a sql table that other software uses. Try to save as a swf file from powerpoint. Try opening a wordperfect doc in word. Try using a mac, a linux box and a xp box to edit the same file without loosing anything. Try exporting a word doc as a pdf and maintain internal link targets. BTW, how big is the same file in doc format vs odt?

     

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    Josh, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 11:15am

    Re: Re: MS software piracy

    Itunes has several cracks out now but they only work if you actually bought the tracks. There's even a way to get itunes songs on linux without the drm.

     

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    tmasman, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 11:26am

    Re: Monkey with a keyboard.

    >> BTW, how big is the same file in doc format vs odt?
    Mute point with Office 2007 as I think they are taking a play right out of OOo's playbook... The new file formats (.docx, .xlsx, etc...) are zip files with XML files for the content... (Sound familiar?) & the file size is 25% of original doc/xls files.

    On the other hand, am I going to suggest my company of 40 users spend the $$$ to update to MS Office 2007? No, I'm going to suggest we convert to using OOo. It's not worth the money for a company this size to invest the thousands for an interactive toolbar (the ribbon).

     

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    sh00tar, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 11:32am

    Re: Re: MS software piracy

    Actually, you don't have to use iTunes at all. In my opinion, it is an over bloated program with features that I don't need. The only thing I need iPod software to do is transfer songs to my iPod and transfer them back to my PC and that's it!! I don't want any built in music players or other redundant features that other programs on my computer already do.

    Anapod Explorer is what I use to transfer songs to my iPod. It works well with all versions of the iPod. One thing to note, if you're already using your iPod with iTunes and wanna switch to Anapod, say bye-bye to all the songs you have on there. You will need to format your iPod and then power it on without being attached to a computer. It will reset it's directory structure and you can now attach it to your computer and set it up with Anapod explorer. Send mp3, wav, mp4(ALAC), etc. files to the iPod without any problems.

     

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    sh00ter, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 11:39am

    Re: Re: Re: MS software piracy

    forgot to mention that the above will only work for audio files not downloaded from the iTunes website.

    http://www.allofmp3.com > iTunes

    Do any of you actually buy your songs from iTunes? I don't.

    This ties in perfectly with this whole piracy issue. I'm downloading them for free to sample them and will actually buy them at a later date...... a much much later date :)

     

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    rob, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 11:47am

    Re: Re: Microsoft Exec Admits That Company Benefit

    at 5 dollars a month for the updates. thats 180 dollars over three years.

    buy the OS and save about 90 dollars

     

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    Homer, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 11:54am

    Re: Re: Microsoft Exec Admits That Company Benefit

    $5/mo is an interesting thought...so that would be $60/yr. SLED 10 is only $50/yr. I like SLED, but I need Windows. $10 more a year seems like a reasonable premium for "mainstreamness"

     

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    DeveloperX, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 11:59am

    Re: Re: Give me a break!

    Many programs already have a free, trial "Student" version. I would suggest that this become a standard instead of promoting piracy on a "need" basis!

     

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    Ironic, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 12:05pm

    My thoughts

    I actually am more likely to pirate from a company like MS because they are so extremely anti-piracy. Their products are not as polished as they could be and are too expensive for many consumers.
    I can understand Microsoft not wanting whole companies (especially large ones) to pirate, but their attacking people pirating for personal use is a lose/lose situation. When they go after the general consumer they get the rep as an evil corporation. Thus people don't feel bad pirating from them.

     

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    pcmerc, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 12:05pm

    Re:

    Hack the planet & pirate everything!

     

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    Chrup, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 12:06pm

    Re: MS ain't all bad

    Office on Mac is even better than its counterpart on Windows and a Student-Teacher version costs you $150 and gives you 3 CD keys for 3 legit installations. As a 'all-in-one' (email, calendar, address book, notes, tasks, projects), I haven't found anything that beats it on a Mac yet. OOo only works under X11 on a Mac and that's much to much of a hassle to get to work.

     

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    drwho, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 12:42pm

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    JJ, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 12:46pm

    Re: MS software piracy

    I disagree. There are plenty of useful microsoft applications.

    If you find that you need to use a commercial software, then you should pay for it. If you dont like it, then dont use it.

    Also,
    If Microsoft bashes piracy, people complain. If Microsoft embraces piracy, people complain.

     

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    nate, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 1:12pm

    Pirate software

    Let me give you an idea on how this piracy thing works here in Latin America and why MS executives here admit it works.
    Most people use pirate MS products at home. So thats what they know how to use, what they became experts at. NO company will ever advertise looking to hire Solaris experts but windows experts. Now companies are more easy to control than individual users. And they are more likely to have the funds to pay for a license. It would take months for a company to find enough users of Solaris to work for them or even to train them.

    Regards,

     

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    JJ, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 1:19pm

    Prices

    In my opinion, MS priced itself into piracy. It is hard to pay more than $100 for any of it's home products.

    $279 for word+excel+outlook is too expensive.
    More than $100 for a home OS is too expensive.

     

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    Reed, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 2:00pm

    Re: Prices

    JJ Said,

    In my opinion, MS priced itself into piracy. It is hard to pay more than $100 for any of it's home products.

    $279 for word+excel+outlook is too expensive.
    More than $100 for a home OS is too expensive.

    I agree totally here. Is software even worth this much? Considering it will be outdated and replaced within 3 years is it really an investment?

    If you bought a MS product and you were guaranteed for life like Craftsmen Tools then yes I think it would be worth it.

    On the other hand if you shelled out almost half a thousand dollars for Office 2003 only to find out it can't read Office 2007 files I would be pretty pissed.

    MS strategies of forcing everyone to start over again and purchase new software is dead ending the whole computer industry. They throw around their weight to keep all independent developers out thereby choking out innovation.

    Sure some of MS products are good and XP is pretty damned snappy when it comes to speed, but it ends there. The majority of their products are poor hacks of the ideas they borrowed and are unable to execute properly.

    Open Source will sweep in to clean up the mess MS has created and give everyone the chance to build on ideas rather than just steal them and make poor copies. Its like bringing in the discourse of sciences where everyone can build on each others idea to make an even greater product.

    It is not just an idea, it is a revolution (Yet another great idea MS will embrace in several years and try to claim they started it LOL)

     

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    4-80-sicks, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 3:43pm

    That quote from Gates about people getting "sort of addicted" is almost ten years old.

     

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    Spencer Ferguson, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 3:50pm

    Microsoft Software Piracy

    As someone with some level of insider knowledge, Microsoft is extremely image conscious and isn't about to go after a home user or individual user of the software. Instead, they target corporations using unlicensed software or those that peddle it. The fact is, stealing is stealing. If you can't afford a Ferrari you have no business driving a stolen one... As for Microsoft pricing on Office and Windows, it is driven by the market. Simply, both products have a majority of the marketshare and thus the price must be alright by most people. http://www.WasatchSoftware.com/blog

     

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    Fecal Extrusion, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 4:38pm

    Re: Re: MS software piracy

    If you defend evil dumb-ass corporations like Microsoft and their anti-consumer and antip-competitive actions people complain.

     

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    Cheese, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 5:02pm

    Re: OOo

    Ok, what's the average lifespan for Windows support? 5-6 years? 6 year's at 5 a month, 360 dollars I believe. So, think of it as paying for the updates up front ;)

     

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    Cheese, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 5:02pm

    Re: OOo

    Ok, what's the average lifespan for Windows support? 5-6 years? 6 year's at 5 a month, 360 dollars I believe. So, think of it as paying for the updates up front ;)

     

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    Cheese, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 5:02pm

    Re: OOo

    Ok, what's the average lifespan for Windows support? 5-6 years? 6 year's at 5 a month, 360 dollars I believe. So, think of it as paying for the updates up front ;)

     

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    Cheese, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 5:02pm

    Re: OOo

    Ok, what's the average lifespan for Windows support? 5-6 years? 6 year's at 5 a month, 360 dollars I believe. So, think of it as paying for the updates up front ;)

     

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    Cheese, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 5:02pm

    Re: OOo

    Ok, what's the average lifespan for Windows support? 5-6 years? 6 year's at 5 a month, 360 dollars I believe. So, think of it as paying for the updates up front ;)

     

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    Cheese, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 5:03pm

    Holy hell! Sorry about that! Don't know what happened! :(

     

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    Jason, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 5:59pm

    Re: Re: Re: Microsoft Exec Admits That Company Ben

    Have you looked at the cost of vista lately? What is it... almost $500 for Vista Ultimate?

     

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    Windows Vista, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 6:57pm

    Make sure if you are pirating that it is Microsoft

    Haha, Microsoft endorsed vista cracks - http://www.WindowsVistaUserGuide.com

     

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    me, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 7:14pm

    When the owner of a company says we're losing too much money to piracy, and you find out the person is "worth" $56 BILLION, then there's no merit to said persons company whining about not enough money. If Gates is worth that much, then Microsoft is worth so much more on the bottom line. Hundreds of Billions? Trillions possibly?

     

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    jin, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 7:43pm

    in essence, i think what piracy does is it allows people to consider "what software would i choose if cost was not an issue".

    normally, people don't, CAN'T think of products like this. you think in terms of "what is the best i can get for what i can afford."

    and lots of businesses profit from this! a lesser car company can get customers because though it does not make the best car, it makes a cheaper one.

    piracy kinda short circuits the market for lower cost solutions. i firmly believe that an app like paint shop pro hasn't taken off because it is irrelevant that you can get 90% of photoshop ($600) capability for $100 when you can get photoshop for free.

    and it's also probable that this is the reason why linux is not more widespread.

    this basically enables the "victims" of piracy to eradicate competition and maintain a monopoly position.

    haha, i guess piracy control is somewhat like the decisions faced by the oil cartels - you want to limit supply to maximize profits but you don't want to limit it so much that you inspire potential consumers to start looking elsewhere for solutions (alternative fuels, etc.)

     

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    Charles Griswold, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 8:28pm

    Re: Re: Monkey with a keyboard.

    Excel spreadsheed is fully programmable in Visual Basic. Nothing in OO comes close to this.

    Thank God for that. It would be horrible to use a spreadsheet program that was tied to only one scripting language. *shudders*

     

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    Jay, Mar 13th, 2007 @ 8:46pm

    Joe, you are an idiot

    What a stupid premise for an article. Maybe spend some time coming up with a vailid point before writing something? Obviously any company would rather have you pirate their software than a competitive product for a number of valid reasons. Congradulations Joe, you've added nothing of value.

     

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    kamy, Mar 14th, 2007 @ 1:21am

    Of course they do

    They benefit from the fact that many pirate at home and at the workplace they can't work on nothing else. Also students pirate Windows, then they get jobs and recommend the platform to their employers.

     

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    kelentong, Mar 14th, 2007 @ 3:10am

    Time to change OS!

    I HATE windows! The system is so unstable that it crashes every 4 - 6 weeks of heavy usage, then have to reFORMAT again. Later it crashes again, and the cycle continues!
    As for MS Office, I will swear at it, I use Open Office instead!

    My home unit is running Linux OS and Open Office. No problems yet....

     

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    |333173|3|_||3, Mar 14th, 2007 @ 7:55am

    While I use XP (for DirectX and because it came with the computer, and getting it was tax efficeint), the only part of Office that gets regular use from me is excel, and only because of the xl2latex program, used for converting an Excel spreadsheet to a LaTeX table.
    I use LaTex for documents, and produce output as PDFs, (PDF screen for presentations, but I have only done that once), thunderbird instead of Outlook, FileMaker instead of Access, and Publisher is a waste of space most of the time (I haven't used it for years).

    I quite like the ribbon toolbar in office 2k7, but it is not something I will pay for.
    FireFox2 beats IE7 by a mile, and has a greatly superior UI anyway.

    If someone made an Open Source rip-off of Dirextx, then that would help convert gamers away from window$.

    I use vPod with my iPod, which does not require reformating to use along with iTunes, but you have to extract your CDs yourself. For playback, there is Pod Player, which is not as good as iTunes for finding songs or editing info, but is good for playback (it is on my iPod, it is quite small), and Winamp has no problems with AAC files.

    Cheese, you kept hiting submit until the page changed, didn't you.

     

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    EbilPhish, Mar 15th, 2007 @ 2:00am

    Re: not even Solaris

    Not only can you download it, they will ship it to you on dvds http://get.opensolaris.org/

     

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    Kluster, Mar 15th, 2007 @ 2:46pm

    Re: windows for server ???

    Who in his right mind would use a Windows based computer as a server ? Windows is for technologically impaired users aka gamers and grandmas.

     

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    Matt, Mar 17th, 2007 @ 7:27am

    Re: Re: windows for server ???

    "Re: windows for server ??? by Kluster on Mar 15th, 2007 @ 2:46pm

    Who in his right mind would use a Windows based computer as a server ? Windows is for technologically impaired users aka gamers and grandmas."

    Ummm, do you have any idea what your talking about. The servers thing I agree.. but putting gamers on the same level as grandmas... wtf 0_o. Explain to me why most games don't run on Linux? Explain to me why Linux runs better on "Older Technology" instead of the bleeding edge/latest in tech. Hell, i'm an avid gamer and I would never consider Linux as my main OS because frankly.. i'm extremely Technologically minded - I love the latest tech, if I buy a new GPU I can be almost 100% certain its going to work extremely well. If I went and Pirated/bought a new OS and pratically had to downgrade my components.. I would be pretty pissed off.

    I don't think you really thought your comment through before posting it my dear friend.. as you obviously seem to be pretty ignorant if this is what you believe.

     

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    anonymous coward, Mar 19th, 2007 @ 7:58am

    Re: Whose?

    no competition ro Windows Server? Have you heard of Apache? (which runs 60% of the internet!!)

     

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    Steve, Mar 19th, 2007 @ 3:49pm

    This article has very useful information

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    tehpwnmstr, May 8th, 2007 @ 12:17pm

    re: Re: MS ain't all bad

    i use open office as well and i find it very usefull as it can be used with very many applications, not just MS office

     

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    Dennis potter, Jul 30th, 2007 @ 12:16pm

    piracy and microsoft

    They talk tough about piracy but however they fail to mention the fact that gates himself and mircosoft are being sued themselfs for software infringment and patant violations by may of the attorney generals of the united states in U.S. district court, and other violations that i am a claimant to.

    give em up Bill, your days are numbered!

     

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    felgi chromowane, Oct 18th, 2008 @ 11:15am

    Felgi chromowane szczecin

    Hello. Can i too add this on mysite? I think, this is very helpful. Greatings.

     

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    cialis, Oct 31st, 2008 @ 2:48am

    Cialis

    I agree more must be done about the spamming issue.

     

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    Opinie o liceach, Dec 30th, 2008 @ 8:40am

    The company recently got a stark reminder of this lesson when a school in Russia said it would switch to Linux to avoid future hassles with the pirate police.

     

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    Serwis drukarek HP, Dec 31st, 2008 @ 4:16am

    Naprawy drukarek HP i ploterów.

     

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    Pozycjonowanie stron internetowych, Jan 5th, 2009 @ 10:58am

    Pozycjonowanie stron www jest bardzo ważnym procesem w rozwoju biznesu internetowego. Strona będąca wysoko w wynikach wyszukiwarek zwielokratnia zarobki właścicielowi takiego serwisu.

     

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    murmo, Jan 26th, 2009 @ 4:02am

    I think that once a new version of a certain software e.g office, auto route etc is releaed. The older version should be openly released so they no longer come under piracy law as bill would of made his money from these. thus allowing people old or young the chance to become familiar the manufacturers products to get grasp the basics.

     

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    PH, Mar 12th, 2009 @ 3:26am

    Re: MS software piracy

    "There is NO MS software worth paying for, or even using"

    Utter bullshit. You don't seem to know much about MS's products. Their Flight Simulator is the best desktop flight sim available. Worth every dime.

     

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    nawigacje szczecin, Jul 1st, 2009 @ 2:30am

    Nice to see so good informations. Very good blog.

     

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    xenony szczecin, Aug 4th, 2009 @ 1:14pm

    Re: MS software piracy

    I love you Bill!

     

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    alarmy szczecin, Aug 4th, 2009 @ 1:19pm

    Re: Re: MS software piracy

    I love you Bill!

     

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    elektronika szczecin, Aug 4th, 2009 @ 1:22pm

    Re: Felgi chromowane szczecin

    Stasiak mam Cię!!!

     

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    rejestracja szczecin, Oct 20th, 2009 @ 1:37pm

    Allowed HTML Tags:

     

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    Kredyt mieszkaniowy, Dec 11th, 2009 @ 11:47am

    Kredyt mieszkaniowy

    Very good article, i would like to put it into my page (kredyty mieszkaniowe), can I ??

     

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    samochody szczecin, Jan 14th, 2010 @ 2:11pm

    i its ok. Michael.

     

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    Melendro, May 30th, 2010 @ 9:14am

    Re: MS ain't all bad

    "OOo? Decent but not worth paying for."

    Are you joking? OOo is free, not only in money but also open source. So why are you talking about paying?

     

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    Gopesh Kapoor (profile), Feb 24th, 2011 @ 7:05am

    Dear Microsoft

    Dear Microsoft:

    My name is Gopesh Kapoor, and I own a small computer repair and sales business in Manhattan.

    My concern is that each month, business in my sector continuallly diminishes. The amount of piracy in NYC has grown to

    astonishing levels. For example, the following ads were placed on craigslist in a PERIOD OF 20 MINUTES:

    http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/sys/2231759358.html
    http://newyork.craigslist.org/que /sys/2231754078.html
    http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/sys/2231756448.html
    http://newyork.craigsli st.org/que/sys/2231752132.html
    http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/sys/2231747774.html
    http://newyor k.craigslist.org/mnh/sys/2231702152.html
    http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/sys/2231642511.html
    htt p://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/sys/2231606691.html
    http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/sys/2231532652 .html
    http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/sys/2231531684.html


    Every single day, more and more "software" vendors turn up, and more disturbingly, an even larger number of people turn up to

    buy from them. For those of us who run legitimate businesses, this is becoming an increasing concern.

    According to a recent NY Times article, Microsoft has spent a ton of money setting up an anti-piracy operation with staff

    members that include former government intelligence officers, former district attorneys, etc.

    This anti-piracy operation IS NOT DOING THEIR JOB. If they were, the levels of piracy would be DECREASING, not INCREASING on

    a daily basis.

    The costs of this anti-piracy operation is probably built into the price of legitimate MICROSOFT products. RECOMMENDATION:

    FIRE this group of incompetents (they are taking your money and not doing the work you're paying them to do), and LOWER the

    price of your products.

    Or, please feel free and continue to ignore my suggestions. In order to stay afloat, I'll start to consider turning to

    piracy MYSELF.

    If you continue to employ the idiots in your anti-piracy division, chances are that I'd be able to make tons of money through

    piracy of your products and never get caught.

    Sincerely,
    Gopesh Kapoor, CCNA, CISSP

     

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